Re: [PD] built-in text editor WAS: Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
I always vote for bringing more objects into vanilla. with cyclone it is a little bit different, because many cyclone objects can be created as abstractions and some of the objects are nameclashers (Append, gate, counter...). what ever happened to the cyclone object class? I remember there used to be an object that let you open max patches by right clicking on it. but for the rest of the cyclone objects please "glom"(???) them into Pd. marius. Miller Puckette wrote: > Hi all, > > there's text-editor code in Krzysztof Chaya's library, that I've wanted > to glom into the vanilla Pd source for some time now (exactly so that > people can pop up text editor windows for any 'binbuf' contents). > > Only thing holding me back is two minor issues: 1. I can't decide > whether it's appropriate to glom te whole of Cyclone into Pd; and 2. > assuming I don't do that, I'm worried it might break cyclone itself to > export symbols from Pd that are also defined by cyclone. > > cheers > Miller > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 06:40:59PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> I think this is an interesting idea, and it is feasible if the text >> editor was editing the copy of the patch that is in memory. It would >> not be easy, but doable. >> >> .hc >> >> On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: >> >>> This sounds like a great idea to me. >>> If I add a dozen or so GUI elements and I want to quickly set their >>> sends and receives, I have to save the patch, close it, open emacs, >>> edit, save, close emacs, and reopen the patch. >>> Would be nice to hit one button to switch. >>> I think it would be even better if it were perhaps a right-click >>> option for subpatches and abstractions to open them as code. >>> I have created patches in the past just for editing other patches as >>> text automatically. If that could be done with a running patch I'd be >>> a happy guy. >>> >>> -Chuckk >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:12 PM, marius schebella >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: do you think of something like an html-editor where you can switch between html view and code view? I think that is a great idea!! maybe even side by side! would something like this be coded in tcl/tk? marius. Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Chuckk Hubbard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Hallo! >>> >>> I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for Google SoC, but I'll keep thinking. >>> I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe >>> something we >>> can learn from last year. It would be nice to have compact >>> projects >>> which would be e.g. also manageable by people new to the pd >>> community ... >> In that case, I might think of a few possibilities for anyone >> who is >> open to them. > I have just a minor suggestion for an improvement. > What if it were possible to edit a Pd patch as text from within Pd? > I often open a patch in a text editor in order to mass copy sends > and > receives or GUI elements or whatever. The syntax is straightforward > enough that sometimes this is quicker than clicking, for a whole > bunch > of items. It would be cool if I could do that from within Pd, > without > closing the patch... > > -Chuckk > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.badmuthahubbard.com >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> >> >>?El pueblo unido jam?s ser? vencido! >> >> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] built-in text editor WAS: Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
I think that #2 would be the best bet. You could just rename the symbols in question. Didn't Krzysztof mostly use prefixes like "hammer" and "sickle" on his shared functions, etc.? You could just remove those. .hc On Mar 21, 2008, at 9:58 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > Hi all, > > there's text-editor code in Krzysztof Chaya's library, that I've > wanted > to glom into the vanilla Pd source for some time now (exactly so that > people can pop up text editor windows for any 'binbuf' contents). > > Only thing holding me back is two minor issues: 1. I can't decide > whether it's appropriate to glom te whole of Cyclone into Pd; and 2. > assuming I don't do that, I'm worried it might break cyclone itself to > export symbols from Pd that are also defined by cyclone. > > cheers > Miller > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 06:40:59PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: >> >> I think this is an interesting idea, and it is feasible if the text >> editor was editing the copy of the patch that is in memory. It would >> not be easy, but doable. >> >> .hc >> >> On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: >> >>> This sounds like a great idea to me. >>> If I add a dozen or so GUI elements and I want to quickly set their >>> sends and receives, I have to save the patch, close it, open emacs, >>> edit, save, close emacs, and reopen the patch. >>> Would be nice to hit one button to switch. >>> I think it would be even better if it were perhaps a right-click >>> option for subpatches and abstractions to open them as code. >>> I have created patches in the past just for editing other patches as >>> text automatically. If that could be done with a running patch >>> I'd be >>> a happy guy. >>> >>> -Chuckk >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:12 PM, marius schebella >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: do you think of something like an html-editor where you can switch between html view and code view? I think that is a great idea!! maybe even side by side! would something like this be coded in tcl/tk? marius. Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Chuckk Hubbard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Hallo! >>> >>> I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for Google SoC, but I'll keep thinking. >>> >>> I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe >>> something we >>> can learn from last year. It would be nice to have compact >>> projects >>> which would be e.g. also manageable by people new to the pd >>> community ... >> >> In that case, I might think of a few possibilities for anyone >> who is >> open to them. > > I have just a minor suggestion for an improvement. > What if it were possible to edit a Pd patch as text from within > Pd? > I often open a patch in a text editor in order to mass copy sends > and > receives or GUI elements or whatever. The syntax is > straightforward > enough that sometimes this is quicker than clicking, for a whole > bunch > of items. It would be cool if I could do that from within Pd, > without > closing the patch... > > -Chuckk > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.badmuthahubbard.com >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> >> >>?El pueblo unido jam?s ser? vencido! >> >> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity."-John Gilmore ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] built-in text editor WAS: Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Hi all, there's text-editor code in Krzysztof Chaya's library, that I've wanted to glom into the vanilla Pd source for some time now (exactly so that people can pop up text editor windows for any 'binbuf' contents). Only thing holding me back is two minor issues: 1. I can't decide whether it's appropriate to glom te whole of Cyclone into Pd; and 2. assuming I don't do that, I'm worried it might break cyclone itself to export symbols from Pd that are also defined by cyclone. cheers Miller On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 06:40:59PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I think this is an interesting idea, and it is feasible if the text > editor was editing the copy of the patch that is in memory. It would > not be easy, but doable. > > .hc > > On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > > This sounds like a great idea to me. > > If I add a dozen or so GUI elements and I want to quickly set their > > sends and receives, I have to save the patch, close it, open emacs, > > edit, save, close emacs, and reopen the patch. > > Would be nice to hit one button to switch. > > I think it would be even better if it were perhaps a right-click > > option for subpatches and abstractions to open them as code. > > I have created patches in the past just for editing other patches as > > text automatically. If that could be done with a running patch I'd be > > a happy guy. > > > > -Chuckk > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:12 PM, marius schebella > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> do you think of something like an html-editor where you can switch > >> between html view and code view? I think that is a great idea!! > >> maybe > >> even side by side! > >> would something like this be coded in tcl/tk? > >> marius. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Chuckk Hubbard > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hallo! > > > > > >> I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. > >> As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for > >> Google > >> SoC, but I'll keep thinking. > > > > I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe > > something we > > can learn from last year. It would be nice to have compact > > projects > > which would be e.g. also manageable by people new to the pd > > community ... > > In that case, I might think of a few possibilities for anyone > who is > open to them. > >>> > >>> I have just a minor suggestion for an improvement. > >>> What if it were possible to edit a Pd patch as text from within Pd? > >>> I often open a patch in a text editor in order to mass copy sends > >>> and > >>> receives or GUI elements or whatever. The syntax is straightforward > >>> enough that sometimes this is quicker than clicking, for a whole > >>> bunch > >>> of items. It would be cool if I could do that from within Pd, > >>> without > >>> closing the patch... > >>> > >>> -Chuckk > >>> > >> > >> > >>> ___ > >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >>> listinfo/pd-list > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > >?El pueblo unido jam?s ser? vencido! > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] built-in text editor WAS: Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
I think this is an interesting idea, and it is feasible if the text editor was editing the copy of the patch that is in memory. It would not be easy, but doable. .hc On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > This sounds like a great idea to me. > If I add a dozen or so GUI elements and I want to quickly set their > sends and receives, I have to save the patch, close it, open emacs, > edit, save, close emacs, and reopen the patch. > Would be nice to hit one button to switch. > I think it would be even better if it were perhaps a right-click > option for subpatches and abstractions to open them as code. > I have created patches in the past just for editing other patches as > text automatically. If that could be done with a running patch I'd be > a happy guy. > > -Chuckk > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:12 PM, marius schebella > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> do you think of something like an html-editor where you can switch >> between html view and code view? I think that is a great idea!! >> maybe >> even side by side! >> would something like this be coded in tcl/tk? >> marius. >> >> >> >> >> Chuckk Hubbard wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Chuckk Hubbard >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo! > > >> I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. >> As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for >> Google >> SoC, but I'll keep thinking. > > I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe > something we > can learn from last year. It would be nice to have compact > projects > which would be e.g. also manageable by people new to the pd > community ... In that case, I might think of a few possibilities for anyone who is open to them. >>> >>> I have just a minor suggestion for an improvement. >>> What if it were possible to edit a Pd patch as text from within Pd? >>> I often open a patch in a text editor in order to mass copy sends >>> and >>> receives or GUI elements or whatever. The syntax is straightforward >>> enough that sometimes this is quicker than clicking, for a whole >>> bunch >>> of items. It would be cool if I could do that from within Pd, >>> without >>> closing the patch... >>> >>> -Chuckk >>> >> >> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list