[PD] couldnt create pdp
hi all, i recently purchases an acer aspire one netbook, its running fedora 8 i installed pd=extended through yum and was ready to begin using.. for some reason it wouldnt create any of the pidip specific objects and on the irc a person asked me to create a pdp object and see what the error was, it was the follow: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_metro_setup pdp ... couldn't create pure dyne willl not run on this machine. and i am desperate to get pd-extended running on this machine successfully... i would try one of the nightly builds of pd-extended but i cant figure out which package i require, ia m inexperienced with nameing structures in linux... any help greatly appreciated... Paul Finn ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] couldnt create pdp
Hmm, that's an odd one. Did you use the planetccrma packages? I don't know how Nando built things really, it seems a file got missed. I think you asked about this on #dataflow, did you find a solution? Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hc On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:36 PM, fín wrote: hi all, i recently purchases an acer aspire one netbook, its running fedora 8 i installed pd=extended through yum and was ready to begin using.. for some reason it wouldnt create any of the pidip specific objects and on the irc a person asked me to create a pdp object and see what the error was, it was the follow: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_ linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_metro_setup pdp ... couldn't create pure dyne willl not run on this machine. and i am desperate to get pd-extended running on this machine successfully... i would try one of the nightly builds of pd-extended but i cant figure out which package i require, ia m inexperienced with nameing structures in linux... any help greatly appreciated... Paul Finn ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] couldnt create pdp
I've spent a long time on it now and have come to the conclusion that it is dependancy related or a hardware problem relating to my netbook. Either way I couldn't spend any more time trying solutions and so I moved to fendora 10. It's yumming away at the moment. Pure Dyne would have solved all my problems but unfortuatly it will not run on my acer aspire. It's a known issue. I've downloaded ubuntu studio also and may try that. All I wanna do is make a ball move :( Thanks though Happy belated paddies day ~_.~*fine*~._~ On 18 Mar 2009, at 00:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hmm, that's an odd one. Did you use the planetccrma packages? I don't know how Nando built things really, it seems a file got missed. I think you asked about this on #dataflow, did you find a solution? Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hc On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:36 PM, fín wrote: hi all, i recently purchases an acer aspire one netbook, its running fedora 8 i installed pd=extended through yum and was ready to begin using.. for some reason it wouldnt create any of the pidip specific objects and on the irc a person asked me to create a pdp object and see what the error was, it was the follow: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_ linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_metro_setup pdp ... couldn't create pure dyne willl not run on this machine. and i am desperate to get pd-extended running on this machine successfully... i would try one of the nightly builds of pd-extended but i cant figure out which package i require, ia m inexperienced with nameing structures in linux... any help greatly appreciated... Paul Finn ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --- --- -- Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] couldnt create pdp
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hc pd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts with, or should if it has been packaged properly). One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to get "all externals working at once". Each package can be tested separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving bandwidth. BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no pdp_metro_setup issue: $ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org http://puredyne.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] couldnt create pdp
On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hc pd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts with, or should if it has been packaged properly). One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to get "all externals working at once". Each package can be tested separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving bandwidth. I think that's the way that Pd-extended should be packaged for Debian too. The monolithic package is not a good design, but was easy to do. We were talking a while back about merging efforts, I think it would be great to revisit that discussion. Then the next step would be getting those packages into Debian. It seems Guenter has stopped updating his Debian packages, 'puredata' is at 0.40.3, pd-externals is no longer in the repo, etc. BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no pdp_metro_setup issue: $ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug. Yeah, on Fedora only though. I don't use Fedora at all so I am at a loss. PDP works fine in Pd-extended on Ubuntu and Debian. .hc Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org http://puredyne.goto10.org All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] couldnt create pdp
The prognosis was meagative on my two recent fedora excursions, f8 and f10. Pd would work fine but most extended specific obects couldn't be created. I lost a lot of time figuring this out. Moved to ubuntu today. Much happier now. With this new tutorial manual there are a few total beginner things that I've learned the hard way that could be included. There is no reason not to consolidate info. Small links with basic info get lost in most scene/communities I find. My two cents. ~_.~*fine*~._~ On 19 Mar 2009, at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hc pd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts with, or should if it has been packaged properly). One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to get "all externals working at once". Each package can be tested separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving bandwidth. I think that's the way that Pd-extended should be packaged for Debian too. The monolithic package is not a good design, but was easy to do. We were talking a while back about merging efforts, I think it would be great to revisit that discussion. Then the next step would be getting those packages into Debian. It seems Guenter has stopped updating his Debian packages, 'puredata' is at 0.40.3, pd-externals is no longer in the repo, etc. BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no pdp_metro_setup issue: $ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug. Yeah, on Fedora only though. I don't use Fedora at all so I am at a loss. PDP works fine in Pd-extended on Ubuntu and Debian. .hc Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org http://puredyne.goto10.org --- --- -- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
