[PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more, with good 
video quality) with pd/Gem?

i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do this.

thanks
Cyrille 


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I've heard good things about this one, plus it goes up to 120fps:

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/08/hacking_the_ps3_camera.html

.hc

On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
this.


thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list






Mistrust authority - promote decentralization.  - the hacker ethic



___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

hello,
thanks for your answer.
but the ps eyes is not what i'm looking for.
i mean : it's a good webcam, specially for it's price.
but at 120fps, the image size is "only" 320x240, and it can be very crappy if 
you don't have lot's of light.

cyrille

Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


I've heard good things about this one, plus it goes up to 120fps:

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/08/hacking_the_ps3_camera.html

.hc

On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more, with 
good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do 
this.


thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list




 



Mistrust authority - promote decentralization.  - the hacker ethic



___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list




___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[chris clepper]

I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years ago?  It worked
using ethernet and you had to make a movie for Quicktime to load to grab the
stream.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry  wrote:

> hello,
>
> did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more, with good
> video quality) with pd/Gem?
>
> i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do this.
>
> thanks
> Cyrille
> ___
> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Py Fave]

sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific

but edmund optics

http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942

very costly though






2009/10/22 chris clepper 

> I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years ago?  It worked
> using ethernet and you had to make a movie for Quicktime to load to grab the
> stream.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry  wrote:
>
>> hello,
>>
>> did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more, with good
>> video quality) with pd/Gem?
>>
>> i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do this.
>>
>> thanks
>> Cyrille
>> ___
>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>
>
> ___
> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
>
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

hello,


chris clepper a écrit :
I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years ago?  It 
worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for Quicktime to load 
to grab the stream.
well, 
this was on osX, so it was not on my computer.

i'm using only linux...
but, quicktime add few sec of latency, so it was not usable in RT.
we used it only for none realtime stuf + a DV cam for real time.

Cyrille



On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry > wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?

i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do
this.

thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list




___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[chris clepper]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, cyrille henry  wrote:

> well, this was on osX, so it was not on my computer.
> i'm using only linux...
> but, quicktime add few sec of latency, so it was not usable in RT.
> we used it only for none realtime stuf + a DV cam for real time.
>
>
You might find that to be the case with most high speed cameras.  Above a
certain rate they are intended for slow motion playback later and not real
time use.  Cameras that record hundreds or even thousands of frames per
second use special RAM on the camera to store a few seconds and then
download the frames using network or USB connections.
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

chris clepper a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, cyrille henry > wrote:


well, this was on osX, so it was not on my computer.
i'm using only linux...
but, quicktime add few sec of latency, so it was not usable in RT.
we used it only for none realtime stuf + a DV cam for real time.


You might find that to be the case with most high speed cameras.  Above 
a certain rate they are intended for slow motion playback later and not 
real time use.

yep, that is my curent problem.

 Cameras that record hundreds or even thousands of frames 
per second use special RAM on the camera to store a few seconds and then 
download the frames using network or USB connections.


somes use RTSP stream over ethernet...

cyrille







___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

thanks for the link
did you try one?
cyrille

Py Fave a écrit :

sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific

but edmund optics

http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942

very costly though






2009/10/22 chris clepper mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com>>

I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years ago?  It
worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for Quicktime to
load to grab the stream.


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> wrote:

hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?

i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how
to do this.

thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list



___
Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[olsen wolf]

hi cyrille
this will not fulfill your needs(50fps) but might be interesting to know anyway:
http://www.linuxmedia.com/product_details.php?prodid=310
& those guys might provide infos on their #irc:
http://www3.elphel.com/353_turnkey
greets
olsen



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM, cyrille henry  wrote:
> thanks for the link
> did you try one?
> cyrille
>
> Py Fave a écrit :
>>
>> sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific
>>
>> but edmund optics
>>
>>
>> http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942
>>
>> very costly though
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/22 chris clepper > >
>>
>>    I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years ago?  It
>>    worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for Quicktime to
>>    load to grab the stream.
>>
>>
>>    On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry >    > wrote:
>>
>>        hello,
>>
>>        did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,
>>        with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
>>
>>        i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how
>>        to do this.
>>
>>        thanks
>>        Cyrille
>>        ___
>>        pd-l...@iem.at  mailing list
>>        UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>>        http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>>
>>
>>    ___
>>    pd-l...@iem.at  mailing list
>>    UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>>    http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> ___
>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
> ___
> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>



-- 
ETs DNA will not be televised

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:43 AM, chris clepper wrote:


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, cyrille henry  wrote:
well, this was on osX, so it was not on my computer.
i'm using only linux...
but, quicktime add few sec of latency, so it was not usable in RT.
we used it only for none realtime stuf + a DV cam for real time.


You might find that to be the case with most high speed cameras.   
Above a certain rate they are intended for slow motion playback  
later and not real time use.  Cameras that record hundreds or even  
thousands of frames per second use special RAM on the camera to  
store a few seconds and then download the frames using network or  
USB connections.




If its for tracking applications, any of the video tracking  
installations that I have been involved in have used Black&White  
security cameras with a visible light filter.  Those cameras are  
analog and about 150-300€.  Then you need to get a analog capture card  
though.  That could be a Canopus or anything that provides low noise  
and high framerate.


.hc



Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally  
for machines to execute.

 - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jean-Michel Dumas]

Hi Cyrille, you might wanna try something from
http://www.prosilica.com/products.html

Some models go up to 200fps and still fulfill your resolution requirements,
plus i know Sébastien Roy here at UdM uses them under Ubuntu. Haven't played
with them myself though.


Cheers,

jm

--
Jean-Michel Dumas, Directeur Technique
Université de Montréal, iACT / Faculté de Musique
jm.du...@umontreal.ca
tél. 514-343-2172 | cell. 514-712-4013 | téléc. 514-343-5727
http://www.iact.umontreal.ca


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM, olsen wolf
wrote:

> hi cyrille
> this will not fulfill your needs(50fps) but might be interesting to know
> anyway:
> http://www.linuxmedia.com/product_details.php?prodid=310
> &  those
> guys might provide infos on their #irc:
> http://www3.elphel.com/353_turnkey
> greets
> olsen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM, cyrille henry  wrote:
> > thanks for the link
> > did you try one?
> > cyrille
> >
> > Py Fave a écrit :
> >>
> >> sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific
> >>
> >> but edmund optics
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942
> >>
> >> very costly though
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/22 chris clepper  >> >
> >>
> >>I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years ago?  It
> >>worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for Quicktime to
> >>load to grab the stream.
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry  >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>hello,
> >>
> >>did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,
> >>with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
> >>
> >>i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how
> >>to do this.
> >>
> >>thanks
> >>Cyrille
> >>___
> >>Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
> >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>___
> >>Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
> >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >
> > ___
> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ETs DNA will not be televised
>
> ___
> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
>
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

hello,
this cam look nice.
but i'd like to have more information about the way to use it with ubuntu.
did he record the video, or did he use it in real time?
with pd?

thanks
Cyrille


Jean-Michel Dumas a écrit :
Hi Cyrille, you might wanna try something from 
http://www.prosilica.com/products.html


Some models go up to 200fps and still fulfill your resolution 
requirements, plus i know Sébastien Roy here at UdM uses them under 
Ubuntu. Haven't played with them myself though.



Cheers,

jm

--
Jean-Michel Dumas, Directeur Technique
Université de Montréal, iACT / Faculté de Musique
jm.du...@umontreal.ca 
tél. 514-343-2172 | cell. 514-712-4013 | téléc. 514-343-5727
http://www.iact.umontreal.ca


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM, olsen wolf 
mailto:sesselastron...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:


hi cyrille
this will not fulfill your needs(50fps) but might be interesting to
know anyway:
http://www.linuxmedia.com/product_details.php?prodid=310
& 
those guys might provide infos on their #irc:
http://www3.elphel.com/353_turnkey
greets
olsen



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> wrote:
 > thanks for the link
 > did you try one?
 > cyrille
 >
 > Py Fave a écrit :
 >>
 >> sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific
 >>
 >> but edmund optics
 >>
 >>
 >>
http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942
 >>
 >> very costly though
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 2009/10/22 chris clepper mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com>
 >> >>
 >>
 >>I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years
ago?  It
 >>worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for
Quicktime to
 >>load to grab the stream.
 >>
 >>
 >>On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>
 >>>> wrote:
 >>
 >>hello,
 >>
 >>did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480
or more,
 >>with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
 >>
 >>i'd like to have information about the camera and
protocol how
 >>to do this.
 >>
 >>thanks
 >>Cyrille
 >>___
 >>Pd-list@iem.at 
> mailing list
 >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>___
 >>Pd-list@iem.at  > mailing list
 >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>

 >>
 >> ___
 >> Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
 >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >
 > ___
 > Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
 > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >



--
ETs DNA will not be televised

___
Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list




___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :



...



If its for tracking applications, any of the video tracking 
installations that I have been involved in have used Black&White 
security cameras with a visible light filter.  Those cameras are analog 
and about 150-300€.

i've also done this a lot.
it's not what i'm looking for.
 Then you need to get a analog capture card though. 
 That could be a Canopus or anything that provides low noise and high 
framerate.

i never heard about analog camera doing more than 50i.
an analog security camera is not a high speed camera.

cyrille



.hc



Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for 
machines to execute.

 - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs




___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:

Some models go up to 200fps 


Mine goes to 11.




Cheers,

jm

--
Jean-Michel Dumas, Directeur Technique
Université de Montréal, iACT / Faculté de Musique
jm.du...@umontreal.ca 
tél. 514-343-2172 | cell. 514-712-4013 | téléc. 514-343-5727
http://www.iact.umontreal.ca


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM, olsen wolf 
mailto:sesselastron...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:


hi cyrille
this will not fulfill your needs(50fps) but might be interesting to
know anyway:
http://www.linuxmedia.com/product_details.php?prodid=310
& 
those guys might provide infos on their #irc:
http://www3.elphel.com/353_turnkey
greets
olsen



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> wrote:
 > thanks for the link
 > did you try one?
 > cyrille
 >
 > Py Fave a écrit :
 >>
 >> sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific
 >>
 >> but edmund optics
 >>
 >>
 >>
http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942
 >>
 >> very costly though
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 2009/10/22 chris clepper mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com>
 >> >>
 >>
 >>I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years
ago?  It
 >>worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for
Quicktime to
 >>load to grab the stream.
 >>
 >>
 >>On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>
 >>>> wrote:
 >>
 >>hello,
 >>
 >>did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480
or more,
 >>with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
 >>
 >>i'd like to have information about the camera and
protocol how
 >>to do this.
 >>
 >>thanks
 >>Cyrille
 >>___
 >>Pd-list@iem.at 
> mailing list
 >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>___
 >>Pd-list@iem.at  > mailing list
 >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>

 >>
 >> ___
 >> Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
 >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >
 > ___
 > Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
 > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
 > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
 >



--
ETs DNA will not be televised

___
Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list



--

* Pall Thayer
* Artist
* http://www.this.is/pallit


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jean-Michel Dumas]

>From what i know, he uses them in real time but i don't have info on the
details on how he does it. I'm pretty sure he doesn't use GEM though. PD
yes, GEM no.

I've CCd him, he might be able to tell you more.

jm

--
Jean-Michel Dumas, Directeur Technique
Université de Montréal, iACT / Faculté de Musique
jm.du...@umontreal.ca
tél. 514-343-2172 | cell. 514-712-4013 | téléc. 514-343-5727
http://www.iact.umontreal.ca


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM, cyrille henry  wrote:

> hello,
> this cam look nice.
> but i'd like to have more information about the way to use it with ubuntu.
> did he record the video, or did he use it in real time?
> with pd?
>
> thanks
> Cyrille
>
>
> Jean-Michel Dumas a écrit :
>
>> Hi Cyrille, you might wanna try something from
>> http://www.prosilica.com/products.html
>>
>> Some models go up to 200fps and still fulfill your resolution
>> requirements, plus i know Sébastien Roy here at UdM uses them under Ubuntu.
>> Haven't played with them myself though.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> jm
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Michel Dumas, Directeur Technique
>> Université de Montréal, iACT / Faculté de Musique
>> jm.du...@umontreal.ca 
>> tél. 514-343-2172 | cell. 514-712-4013 | téléc. 514-343-5727
>> http://www.iact.umontreal.ca
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM, olsen wolf <
>> sesselastron...@googlemail.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>hi cyrille
>>this will not fulfill your needs(50fps) but might be interesting to
>>know anyway:
>>http://www.linuxmedia.com/product_details.php?prodid=310
>>& 
>>those guys might provide infos on their #irc:
>>http://www3.elphel.com/353_turnkey
>>greets
>>olsen
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM, cyrille henry >> wrote:
>> > thanks for the link
>> > did you try one?
>> > cyrille
>> >
>> > Py Fave a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> sorry i didn't meant edmund scientific
>> >>
>> >> but edmund optics
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/displayproduct.cfm?productid=2942
>> >>
>> >> very costly though
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/22 chris clepper >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>I thought you used one for the juggling project a few years
>>ago?  It
>> >>worked using ethernet and you had to make a movie for
>>Quicktime to
>> >>load to grab the stream.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM, cyrille henry >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>hello,
>> >>
>> >>did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480
>>or more,
>> >>with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
>> >>
>> >>i'd like to have information about the camera and
>>protocol how
>> >>to do this.
>> >>
>> >>thanks
>> >>Cyrille
>> >>___
>> >>Pd-list@iem.at 
>>> mailing list
>> >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>___
>> >>Pd-list@iem.at  >> mailing list
>> >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>  
>> >>
>> >> ___
>> >> Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
>> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> >
>> > ___
>> > Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>ETs DNA will not be televised
>>
>>___
>>Pd-list@iem.at  mailing list
>>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>>
>>
>
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
Some models go up to 200fps 

Mine goes to 11.


You mean 1.1 ? as in USB 1.1...

Still have a bunch of those cams around.

 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Dario Pedrioli]

In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye linux
driver )
75 fps @ 640*480
125 fps @ 320*240

You can use more than one camera at a time - only tried with two cameras
succesfully (i've only two of this:-) -> 60 fps @ 1280*480 (used form motion
tracking purpose)
(OT: the only problem I have is: how to compose the two images into one
single image to feed a single pix_blob? If someone can help...)

The video quality is excellent (compared to other webcams) - a little noisy
in low light but very good in normal light.

You can choose Exposure, color balance etc... (auto or manual)

The lenses have 2 zoom factor 56 and 75 degrees.
There is the possibility to hack the hardware and have a M12 lens mount on
it to have a wide range of lenses.

Last, but not least: the price is very very low compared to other solutions
(40 euros each).

ciao!
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Loic Kessous]

I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X, wondows  
and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it work and in  
particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I also tried ps3 and  
others and several other things including acquisition with openCV true  
some externals that I made). On os X it was working natively for sure  
(try quicktime I suppose ...), on windows with a special driver. I  
must say that as I'm not a pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more  
expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her name...)


I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  
look.

loic
On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
this.


thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list



___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

Actually, I meant as in "Spinal Tap" - "It goes to 11!"

:-)

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
Some models go up to 200fps 

Mine goes to 11.


You mean 1.1 ? as in USB 1.1...

Still have a bunch of those cams around.

 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801



--

* Pall Thayer
* Artist
* http://www.this.is/pallit


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jack]

>From Point Grey, there is the Grasshopper model :
http://www.ptgrey.com/products/grasshopper/index.asp
The version GRAS-03K2M/C works at 640x480 and 200 fps.
Is there any delay ? I don't know.
About Linux support :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=17
++

Jack


Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 09:34 +0200, Loic Kessous a écrit :
> I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X, wondows  
> and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it work and in  
> particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I also tried ps3 and  
> others and several other things including acquisition with openCV true  
> some externals that I made). On os X it was working natively for sure  
> (try quicktime I suppose ...), on windows with a special driver. I  
> must say that as I'm not a pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
> I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more  
> expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her name...)
> 
> I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  
> look.
> loic
> On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:
> 
> > hello,
> >
> > did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
> > with good video quality) with pd/Gem?
> >
> > i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
> > this.
> >
> > thanks
> > Cyrille
> > ___
> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> 
> 
> ___
> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

hello

thanks all for your answer and for the links.

Cyrille


Jack a écrit :

From Point Grey, there is the Grasshopper model :

http://www.ptgrey.com/products/grasshopper/index.asp
The version GRAS-03K2M/C works at 640x480 and 200 fps.
Is there any delay ? I don't know.
About Linux support :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=17
++

Jack


Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 09:34 +0200, Loic Kessous a écrit :
I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X, wondows  
and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it work and in  
particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I also tried ps3 and  
others and several other things including acquisition with openCV true  
some externals that I made). On os X it was working natively for sure  
(try quicktime I suppose ...), on windows with a special driver. I  
must say that as I'm not a pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more  
expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her name...)


I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  
look.

loic
On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,  
with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to do  
this.


thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[cyrille henry]

Pall Thayer a écrit :

Actually, I meant as in "Spinal Tap" - "It goes to 11!"

ahahah,
i didn't get it the fist time!

C



:-)

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Jean-Michel Dumas wrote:
Some models go up to 200fps 

Mine goes to 11.


You mean 1.1 ? as in USB 1.1...

Still have a bunch of those cams around.

 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801






___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:


Actually, I meant as in "Spinal Tap" - "It goes to 11!" :-)


Yeah... I understood. I had heard of that joke over a decade before I 
finally watched Spinal Tap.


But I was trying to make another joke on top of it.

 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[lluisgomez]

there is good database for that kind of cameras here ::

The IEEE1394 Digital Camera List   
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/cameras/search/


ya ... under linux they are suposed to work all under libdc1394  
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/libdc1394/


coriander is nice control software using lindc1394  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/coriander/


also there is unicap, an API that supports dc's  
(http://www.unicap-imaging.org/)

is Gem0.92 able to use unicap?
i'm not sure but if it's dc's should work... i never test it ...

me and yves write a very basic implementation of pdp_dc1394 but  
atually it only works with unibrain monochrome cameras ...


salutt,
ll


Quoting cyrille henry :


hello

thanks all for your answer and for the links.

Cyrille


Jack a écrit :

From Point Grey, there is the Grasshopper model :

http://www.ptgrey.com/products/grasshopper/index.asp
The version GRAS-03K2M/C works at 640x480 and 200 fps.
Is there any delay ? I don't know.
About Linux support :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=17
++

Jack


Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 09:34 +0200, Loic Kessous a écrit :
I used a IEEE 1394 point grey flea2 some month ago, on os X,   
wondows  and linux, but with linux I had difficulty to make it   
work and in  particular with pd (I don't remember exactly as I   
also tried ps3 and  others and several other things including   
acquisition with openCV true  some externals that I made). On os X  
 it was working natively for sure  (try quicktime I suppose ...),   
on windows with a special driver. I  must say that as I'm not a   
pure linux guy, so I maybe missed something.
I used also another one quit similar from another brand, but more   
 expensive, with additional optic (I still try to remember her   
name...)


I just see that point grey has new products, maybe you should have a  look.
loic
On 21 oct. 09, at 11:27, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,

did anyone used a fast camera (100 or 200 fps @ 640x480 or more,   
 with good video quality) with pd/Gem?


i'd like to have information about the camera and protocol how to  
 do  this.


thanks
Cyrille
___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->   
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->   
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[ydego...@gmail.com]

lluisgo...@hangar.org wrote:


there is good database for that kind of cameras here ::

The IEEE1394 Digital Camera List  
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/cameras/search/


ya ... under linux they are suposed to work all under libdc1394 
http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/libdc1394/


coriander is nice control software using lindc1394 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/coriander/


also there is unicap, an API that supports dc's 
(http://www.unicap-imaging.org/)

is Gem0.92 able to use unicap?
i'm not sure but if it's dc's should work... i never test it ...

me and yves write a very basic implementation of pdp_dc1394 but 
atually it only works with unibrain monochrome cameras ...



you wrote it, me, i was at the coffee shop..
then i integrated in pidip ... but hidden...

but yeh, it's optional in svn/PiDiP
if you install libdc1394 and do a ./configure,
it should compile and you can try it
( as announced, very experimental
and only monochrome )

but pd-extended doesn't use autotools,
so you can only try it if you compile pidip yourself ...
( hihi, sorry this reminds me of another thread )..

saludos,
sevy


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

#N canvas 1 48 450 300 10;
#X obj 169 34 vsl 15 170 0 11 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 16900 1;
#X text 153 177 1;
#X text 153 162 2;
#X text 153 147 3;
#X text 153 132 4;
#X text 153 116 5;
#X text 153 101 6;
#X text 153 86 7;
#X text 153 71 8;
#X text 153 56 9;
#X text 148 41 10;
#X text 148 26 11;
#X text 153 194 0;
#X floatatom 169 219 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X connect 0 0 13 0;


--

* Pall Thayer
* Artist
* http://www.this.is/pallit


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Páll Þayer wrote:


#N canvas 1 48 450 300 10;
#X obj 169 34 vsl 15 170 0 11 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 16900 1;


  http://www.cloudera.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/volume_dials.jpg
  
http://rlv.zcache.com/spinal_tap_one_louder_tshirt-p235551580107438137trlf_400.jpg

 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Pall Thayer]

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Páll Þayer wrote:


#N canvas 1 48 450 300 10;
#X obj 169 34 vsl 15 170 0 11 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 16900 1;


  http://www.cloudera.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/volume_dials.jpg
  
http://rlv.zcache.com/spinal_tap_one_louder_tshirt-p235551580107438137trlf_400.jpg 


http://www.joshuatopolsky.com/2008/07/05/the-bbcs-iplayer-volume-goes-to-11-what-dont-you-understand-about-that/

--

* Pall Thayer
* Artist
* http://www.this.is/pallit


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Roman Haefeli]

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:25 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
> In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye
> linux driver)
> 75 fps @ 640*480 
> 125 fps @ 320*240

do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
(using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
do you change the framerate and dimensions?

roman

  



___ 
Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jaime Oliver]

check this tutorial...

best,

J

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli  wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:25 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
>> In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye
>> linux driver)
>> 75 fps @ 640*480
>> 125 fps @ 320*240
>
> do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
> also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
> how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
> (using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
> do you change the framerate and dimensions?
>
> roman
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
> Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de
>
> ___
> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>



-- 
Jaime E Oliver LR

joliv...@ucsd.edu
www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver
www-crca.ucsd.edu/
www.realidadvisual.org

858 202 1522
9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G
La Jolla, CA 92037
USA

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Jaime Oliver]

also, that page links to the driver in the downloads page in case you
have a different pathed driver. that one has been quite stable,
although in my case, anything over 75fps, drops a frame every once in
a while

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Jaime Oliver  wrote:
> check this tutorial...
>
> best,
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli  wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:25 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
>>> In linux with a ps3 eye camera i've reached (thanks to kaswy - ps3 eye
>>> linux driver)
>>> 75 fps @ 640*480
>>> 125 fps @ 320*240
>>
>> do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
>> also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
>> how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
>> (using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
>> do you change the framerate and dimensions?
>>
>> roman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de
>>
>> ___
>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jaime E Oliver LR
>
> joliv...@ucsd.edu
> www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver
> www-crca.ucsd.edu/
> www.realidadvisual.org
>
> 858 202 1522
> 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G
> La Jolla, CA 92037
> USA
>



-- 
Jaime E Oliver LR

joliv...@ucsd.edu
www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver
www-crca.ucsd.edu/
www.realidadvisual.org

858 202 1522
9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G
La Jolla, CA 92037
USA

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Martin Schied]

Roman Haefeli wrote:

do you mind providing some more info? i also have a ps3 eye cam and i
also use a patched gspca-ov534 driver. however, i haven't figured out
how to capture something else than 640x...@30fps. i tried with gem
(using libv4l), ucview and mplayer. this is on ubuntu hardy (8.04). how
do you change the framerate and dimensions?

roman

  

Hi!

You probably will have to change the "videomode" at module load time or 
unload and reload the module with the desired settings, see also here:


http://kaswy.free.fr/?q=node/42

(link is quite old, maybe there where some changes)

cheers
Martin

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[simoniten]

On a sidenote:

this is a really fast cam (up to 1 million pix per seconds)

watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKR4atl8h-I

but i guess that's a little to expensive for you :-)


___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] fast cam

[Roman Haefeli]

On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 19:33 +0200, Dario Pedrioli wrote:
> Here's some useful links:
> 
> Driver
> Tutorial - installation and setting the driver
> Other settings: Autoexpo, gain etc...
> How to remove IR filter
> 
> To load the driver at 320*240 60 fps:
> sudo modprobe gspca_ov534 videomode=13
> 
> To unload the driver (eg: to change settings)
> sudo modprobe -r gspca_ov534
> 
> To automatically load at boot:
> 1 - add file "gspca_ov534" in /etc/modprobe.d with these line (only
> example)
> options gspca_ov534 videomode=13 autogain=0 exposure=200 sharpness=10
> 
> 2 - add at the bottom of the file /etc/modules the line:
> gspca_ov534
> 
> 
> I use it in GEM with succes (60 fps) - don't forget the message [frame
> 60< to gemwin.
> 
> Hope this help.

lovely! everything works just fine. many thanks. thanks also for the
modding links.

roman

 



___ 
Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

___
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list