Re: [PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread chris clepper
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, robert grah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> :) sorry my english is a mix between gangstar rap and bad school english.
> something like this.
>

That's probably good enough to get an undergrad degree here in the US.


> is it possible to embed images as a box background. i am sure this will
> work, i will check this out in the docu.
>

GEM handles images which can be textured onto a variety of geometries
including a rectangle.  In your case you will want to look at the 04.pix
files in the GEM examples.
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Re: [PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread robert grah
hallo frank,
2008/5/19 Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> Ah! And I thought "fluke" was the name of a PHP library ...


:) sorry my english is a mix between gangstar rap and bad school english.
something like this.


> I won't ask now what "strobo speed style" is though I don't know what it
> is. ;)


"strobo speed style" should mean, fast changing images. like a stroboscope.


>
>
> Anyway Gem is a OpenGL graphics system for Pd. You can generate colored
> boxes with Gem easily, using the programming/patching approach as for
> audio or message programming in Pd.  Gem is something completely
> different from Python in this context: With Python in Pd you write new
> Pd objects in Python, while Gem is a collection of special purpose
> objects.
>

i understand the differences, i thought maybee python can be used embeded
for relising dificult actions directly in sourcecode form.

is it possible to embed images as a box background. i am sure this will
work, i will check this out in the docu.

so thanks a lot jack and frank for the infos, and sorry for my bad english
;).

regards
robert
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Re: [PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
robert grah hat gesagt: // robert grah wrote:

> hallo frank,
> 
> 2008/5/19 Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
> > Do you have any example for what exactly you want to do? I've never
> > heard of this "fluke" thing and searching the web for that term
> > yielded no useable results as fluke is a common word.
> >
> 
> fluke should be the translation for the german word "zufall". maybe
> coincidence is the better word for this.

Ah! And I thought "fluke" was the name of a PHP library ...

> i want to generate surfaces, tables, boxes, geometrical forms in strobo
> speed style. this objects be generated through coincidence algorythms. so
> for example i have 4 boxes which change the color and the size every frame
> per coincidence.
>
> Gem can generate graphics at the usual 20/25 fps, which already is
> > much faster than a club stroboscope - and it's much faster than
> > loading websites, too.
> 
> i will check Gem, sounds that this is what i need.

I won't ask now what "strobo speed style" is though I don't know what it
is. ;)

Anyway Gem is a OpenGL graphics system for Pd. You can generate colored
boxes with Gem easily, using the programming/patching approach as for
audio or message programming in Pd.  Gem is something completely
different from Python in this context: With Python in Pd you write new
Pd objects in Python, while Gem is a collection of special purpose
objects.

Ciao
-- 
Frank


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Re: [PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread Jack

Le 19 mai 08 à 13:53, Frank Barknecht a écrit :

> Hallo,
> robert grah hat gesagt: // robert grah wrote:
>
>> i am planing to do an audiovisual live project with pd and have some
>> questions, how i can realize it.
>>
>> i have this php programm which creates graphical html pages by fluke.
>> everytime i refresh the php script the html looks different.
>>
>> my plan is that i make sound in pure data and this sound requests and
>> controls the php script.
>
> Do you have any example for what exactly you want to do? I've never
> heard of this "fluke" thing and searching the web for that term
> yielded no useable results as fluke is a common word.
>
>> so my question is: is it possible to include browser  
>> functionalities into
>> pd? i think this is not possible. so my next question is:
>> is there any other programming language which i can use to  
>> generate similiar
>> graphics like my html stuff directly in pd (like tables, boxes)? i  
>> need
>> something which generates graphics in strobo speed.
>
> Gem can generate graphics at the usual 20/25 fps, which already is
> much faster than a club stroboscope - and it's much faster than
> loading websites, too.
>
>> which programming languages are supported in pd?
>
> Popular choices for scripting languages in Pd include Lua and Python.
> Both can (be made to) talk to network services over a socket
> connection or even http. You can also use Java with pdj, if that
> suits you better, or Scheme etc.
You can use PHP with fsockopen() and PD with [netreceive] : it works  
fine too ;)
++

Jack

>
> Ciao
> -- 
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> __footils.org__
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Re: [PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread robert grah
hallo frank,

2008/5/19 Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Do you have any example for what exactly you want to do? I've never
> heard of this "fluke" thing and searching the web for that term
> yielded no useable results as fluke is a common word.
>

fluke should be the translation for the german word "zufall". maybe
coincidence is the better word for this.
i want to generate surfaces, tables, boxes, geometrical forms in strobo
speed style. this objects be generated through coincidence algorythms. so
for example i have 4 boxes which change the color and the size every frame
per coincidence.

Gem can generate graphics at the usual 20/25 fps, which already is
> much faster than a club stroboscope - and it's much faster than
> loading websites, too.
>

i will check Gem, sounds that this is what i need.

Popular choices for scripting languages in Pd include Lua and Python.
> Both can (be made to) talk to network services over a socket
> connection or even http. You can also use Java with pdj, if that
> suits you better, or Scheme etc.


my choice would be python, but i think maybe Gem is mighty enough to do what
i need.

thanks a lot
regards
robert
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Re: [PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
robert grah hat gesagt: // robert grah wrote:

> i am planing to do an audiovisual live project with pd and have some
> questions, how i can realize it.
> 
> i have this php programm which creates graphical html pages by fluke.
> everytime i refresh the php script the html looks different.
> 
> my plan is that i make sound in pure data and this sound requests and
> controls the php script.

Do you have any example for what exactly you want to do? I've never
heard of this "fluke" thing and searching the web for that term
yielded no useable results as fluke is a common word.

> so my question is: is it possible to include browser functionalities into
> pd? i think this is not possible. so my next question is:
> is there any other programming language which i can use to generate similiar
> graphics like my html stuff directly in pd (like tables, boxes)? i need
> something which generates graphics in strobo speed.

Gem can generate graphics at the usual 20/25 fps, which already is
much faster than a club stroboscope - and it's much faster than
loading websites, too.

> which programming languages are supported in pd?

Popular choices for scripting languages in Pd include Lua and Python.
Both can (be made to) talk to network services over a socket
connection or even http. You can also use Java with pdj, if that
suits you better, or Scheme etc.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__

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[PD] generating fluke objects strobo

2008-05-19 Thread robert grah
hallo list,

i am new to pd, every day i am wondering how many things are possible in pd.
it is a great tool.

i am planing to do an audiovisual live project with pd and have some
questions, how i can realize it.

i have this php programm which creates graphical html pages by fluke.
everytime i refresh the php script the html looks different.

my plan is that i make sound in pure data and this sound requests and
controls the php script.
so my question is: is it possible to include browser functionalities into
pd? i think this is not possible. so my next question is:
is there any other programming language which i can use to generate similiar
graphics like my html stuff directly in pd (like tables, boxes)? i need
something which generates graphics in strobo speed.

which programming languages are supported in pd?

i hope i have expressed god enough that you can understand what i want.
maybe someone have ideas how i can realize my stuff.

regards
robert grah
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