Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of "adsr" in vanilla version
Hi i ran into similar situations in the past and use the following procedure now. Which can easily adapted if you want to copy a complicated (meaning: consinsting of many different abstractions, that you got from collections, built yourself or whatever). So in your example i would open the example patch (the main-patch) and as you did save to a different location. Then i would create a folder next to the target location and call it maybe "abs" or "lib" Then i would add a "declare" - statement including the new folders (i noticed that on OSX you need always the Full path whereas on XP and linux the relative path is sufficient) And the open all the abstractions contained in the main original path and save the with the same names in the newly created folders That way you can easily copy "projects" from one computer to another... I use several folders where i collect the abstractions i use. For example i dont want to have pd look into all the abstraction folders included in pd-extended. It was mentioned before that this increases loading time. So i just copy the one or two abstractions i use from maybe "list- abs" or "mapping" and thats it Maybe that can help you Does someone recommend a different procedure ?? All the Best Luigi On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:32 PM, Lao Yu wrote: > Steffen, > > On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: > >> How do you open it? Are you opening it from the "help browser"? > > from the "open" dialog. when I invoke an abstraction I create a new > object and give it the name of the abstraction. in the case of > "output~" that I mention to Claude the abstraction that I create in > my patch wouldn't look like the one in the "figs" folder which I want > to use. > > Hmmm > > Best > Jurgen > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of "adsr" in vanilla version
Steffen, On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: > How do you open it? Are you opening it from the "help browser"? from the "open" dialog. when I invoke an abstraction I create a new object and give it the name of the abstraction. in the case of "output~" that I mention to Claude the abstraction that I create in my patch wouldn't look like the one in the "figs" folder which I want to use. Hmmm Best Jurgen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of "adsr" in vanilla version
Hi, On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > Did you copy all the files? Or just that one file? I copied the entire contents of the package, all the folders that numbered "1.manual" to "8.sound". > If you save just one of those files somewhere else, how is Pd > supposed to know where the other files are when you load it again? I understand that, because when I keep the patch in the original place it works as expected. But from how it looks like the path in the preferences is absolute (by default), not relative. To me this means that whenever I load a pd patch that uses abstractions which are in-built pd must find those. tell me if I'm wrong. > Did you restart Pd after changing the settings? I realized that pd "vanilla" and pd extended use the same plist - so I deleted one of them and use only one package. now saving the path works and the adsr abstraction gets loaded as expected. However now my patch saved elsewhere doesn't load the "output~" abstraction, although I linked all folders in the patch, including the very obscure "figs" folder which contains the "output~" file. gasp, this is far from reasonable. And the manual is very quiet about this. Thanks Claude, very friendly. I will continue my search. How do you work? Until now I do not know under which name the abstraction is saved and how pd makes reference to it. Jurgen > Claude > -- > http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of "adsr" in vanilla version
On Sat, September 20, 2008 4:02 pm, Lao Yu wrote: > exactly inside the folder that they were. For instance, the patch / > 3.audio.examples/D02.adsr.pd would not work if it is opened from a > different folder. How do you open it? Are you opening it from the "help browser"? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of "adsr" in vanilla version
Lao Yu wrote: > Hi, > > I copied all of the examples out of the application package into > another disk. everything is working fine. However when I was fiddling > around I realized that pd would only open abstractions if they are > exactly inside the folder that they were. For instance, the patch / > 3.audio.examples/D02.adsr.pd would not work if it is opened from a > different folder. Did you copy all the files? Or just that one file? > I do not understand that. I'm not talking about an experimental patch > that has stuff changed, the same patch just "saved as" doesn't work. A Pd program in general consists of multiple files - the "top level patch", the "abstractions" used by it (and the ones used by them, etc) and sometimes some "externals" too. If you save just one of those files somewhere else, how is Pd supposed to know where the other files are when you load it again? Quick solution: keep all files belonging to one program in the same folder. Other solution: add the folders containing the pieces of your program to Pd's -path list. > I'd appreciate any advice. I tried to add the folder inside the > application package to the startup path, but for some reasons that I > don't understand the configuration is not updated (and I don't know > if that would solve the problem in the first place). Did you restart Pd after changing the settings? > Best > Jurgen Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of "adsr" in vanilla version
Hi, I copied all of the examples out of the application package into another disk. everything is working fine. However when I was fiddling around I realized that pd would only open abstractions if they are exactly inside the folder that they were. For instance, the patch / 3.audio.examples/D02.adsr.pd would not work if it is opened from a different folder. I do not understand that. I'm not talking about an experimental patch that has stuff changed, the same patch just "saved as" doesn't work. I'd appreciate any advice. I tried to add the folder inside the application package to the startup path, but for some reasons that I don't understand the configuration is not updated (and I don't know if that would solve the problem in the first place). Best Jurgen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
