Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[Jonathan Wilkes]

Hm, not sure-- maybe you've got multiple instances of the same abstraction open 
and 
are modifying a different one?

To simplify, try testing it in a [pd subpatch].  You can actually see the wires 
to any 
connected objects in the parent patch 
change when you alter the horizontal placement of one [inlet] with 
respect to another.

-Jonathan

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, Richie Cyngler  wrote:

From: Richie Cyngler 
Subject: Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of 
inlets/outlets?
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" 
Cc: "pd list" , "Morgan Packard" 
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 3:40 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but this doesn't work for me. They stay in order of 
creation, the abstraction object doesn't change when I move the horizontal 
alignment of the inlets in the subpatch.

As seen here:

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:

doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])
 
Also in:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7
 
Trivia:
If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a canvas, 
the order in 
which they were created (from most recent to least recent) corresponds to 
the left-to-right 
order of the subpatch's inlets on the parent patch.  In other words: if you 
have: 
[inlet]
[inlet]
 
There's no way to tell by looking what the ordering is.  So, obviously, don't 
do that, but 
also keep in mind that it's a good idea in general to keep all [inlet] objects 
in a horizontal row so one can quickly grasp their left-to-right order merely 
by looking at the patch:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 
is much clearer than:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 [inlet]
 
(Same for [outlet].)
 
-Jonathan

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Morgan Packard  wrote:


From: Morgan Packard 
Subject: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of 
inlets/outlets?

To: "pd list" 
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:32 PM


In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets in 
the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing the 
subpatch?


I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and on 
google didn't turn anything up. 


thanks,


-Morgan

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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[Richie Cyngler]

Correct me if I'm wrong but this doesn't work for me. They stay in order of
creation, the abstraction object doesn't change when I move the horizontal
alignment of the inlets in the subpatch.

As seen here:

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Wilkes  wrote:

> doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])
>
> Also in:
> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7
>
> Trivia:
> If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a
> canvas, the order in
> which they were created (from most recent to least recent) corresponds to
> the left-to-right
> order of the subpatch's inlets on the parent patch.  In other words: if you
> have:
> [inlet]
> [inlet]
>
> There's no way to tell by looking what the ordering is.  So, obviously,
> don't do that, but
> also keep in mind that it's a good idea in general to keep all [inlet]
> objects in a horizontal row so one can quickly grasp their left-to-right
> order merely by looking at the patch:
>
> [inlet] [inlet]
>
> is much clearer than:
>
> [inlet] [inlet]
>  [inlet]
>
> (Same for [outlet].)
>
> -Jonathan
>
> --- On *Mon, 2/14/11, Morgan Packard * wrote:
>
>
> From: Morgan Packard 
> Subject: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of
> inlets/outlets?
> To: "pd list" 
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:32 PM
>
>
> In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which
> inlets/outlets in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch
> representing the subpatch?
>
> I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and
> on google didn't turn anything up.
>
> thanks,
>
> -Morgan
>
> --
> 
> Web:
> http://www.morganpackard.com
>
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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[Jonathan Wilkes]

doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])
 
Also in:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7
 
Trivia:
If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a canvas, 
the order in 
which they were created (from most recent to least recent) corresponds to 
the left-to-right 
order of the subpatch's inlets on the parent patch.  In other words: if you 
have: 
[inlet]
[inlet]
 
There's no way to tell by looking what the ordering is.  So, obviously, don't 
do that, but 
also keep in mind that it's a good idea in general to keep all [inlet] objects 
in a horizontal row so one can quickly grasp their left-to-right order merely 
by looking at the patch:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 
is much clearer than:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 [inlet]
 
(Same for [outlet].)
 
-Jonathan

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Morgan Packard  wrote:


From: Morgan Packard 
Subject: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of 
inlets/outlets?
To: "pd list" 
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:32 PM


In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets in 
the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing the 
subpatch?


I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and on 
google didn't turn anything up. 


thanks,


-Morgan

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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[tim vets]

2011/2/14 Morgan Packard 

> In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which
> inlets/outlets in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch
> representing the subpatch?
>
>
The placement of your [inlet]'s on your subpatch's canvas from left to right
corresponds to the inlets shown in the parent patch from left to right.
gr,
Tim


> I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and
> on google didn't turn anything up.
>
> thanks,
>
> -Morgan
>
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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[Morgan Packard]

Thanks.
Can we take the question mark out of that?
:)
-m-

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Max  wrote:

> the horizontal alignment?
>
>
> Am 14.02.2011 um 22:32 schrieb Morgan Packard:
>
> > In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which
> inlets/outlets in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch
> representing the subpatch?
> >
> > I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs
> and on google didn't turn anything up.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > -Morgan
> >
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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[Max]

the horizontal alignment?


Am 14.02.2011 um 22:32 schrieb Morgan Packard:

> In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets 
> in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing the 
> subpatch?
> 
> I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and 
> on google didn't turn anything up. 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -Morgan
> 
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[PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

[Morgan Packard]

In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets
in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing
the subpatch?

I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and
on google didn't turn anything up.

thanks,

-Morgan

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