Re: [PD] mic preamp: hardware or inside Pd?
its a instrument with a 3d bridge on the middle, dividing the string into 2 half-strings, the idea is to play basically with harmonics.. You play on the side opposed to the pickup on a lap steel or slide fashion, There is a project on a very good book: Musical Instruments Design by Bart Hopkin other info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_bridge best Robert El 21/03/2010, a las 21:26, Pierre Massat escribió: > Well, then i just wouldn't worry about a pre-amp. > What is a 3 bridges guitar by the way? > > Pierre > > 2010/3/21 Roberto Duarte > Thanks Pierre, > what i want to do is to get some noises through these coil mics and amplify > some objects with piezo mics, no recording here, I mean will be also real > time processing, just for jamming and get used to Pd. > Eventually I will want to plug in a lap steel guitar or a 3 bridges guitar, > it depend on if I can, finally manage to build one... > Could be nice a warm tube preamp sound, but for this, is not really needed. > > Best > > Roberto > > > > El 21/03/2010, a las 13:29, Pierre Massat escribió: > >> Hi Roberto, >> >> I don't know much about what you're asking, but i do know that building >> audio hardware isn't easy at all, and probably eventually just as expensive >> as industrial products. >> Now concerning the question of whether you should amplify the signal within >> Pd or not, i'd say it all depends on your needs. If you want to record a >> singer or an instrument it's always good to have an analog pre-amp before >> you feed the signal into Pd. If you need it for something else it may not be >> necessary. >> I personnaly use Pd to process the sound of my electric guitar in real-time. >> For this i use a usb interface (EMU 0404), and the Pd-processed sound ends >> up in my tube amp. >> Anyway, it is very much a matter of taste here, i mean if you like the sound >> of your mics without a pre-amp it's fine. Amplifying the sound in Pd will >> not change the sound, whereas amplifying it first with a pre-amp will change >> it (depending on whether it has tubes, and on the general quality of the >> product). You just have to choose what you like most. >> >> Pierre >> >> 2010/3/21 Roberto Duarte >> Hello all, >> maybe somebody could bring me some lights about this: >> >> I want to jam with some piezos and coil mics, I could get a cheap M-Audio >> Quattro or similar (no pre amp included) and all this into Pd for some >> processing. >> >> What would be better: >> 1. to get or build some hardware preamps or >> 2. to amplify the signal inside Pd? >> >> Another way to go could be, instead of buying a dedicated Audio Interface, >> build one on an Arduino board or on this new CUI32 USB board, using those >> (several) analog inputs. For me, in a way could be good also, because of >> learning how to do it. >> >> I will appreciate any help or tip on this.. >> >> Roberto >> >> >> Roberto Duarte >> +49 30 639 16015 >> +49 176 967 64274 >> Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock >> 12059 Berlin >> www.robertoduarte.de >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > Roberto Duarte > +49 30 639 16015 > +49 176 967 64274 > Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock > 12059 Berlin > www.robertoduarte.de > > > > > > > Roberto Duarte +49 30 639 16015 +49 176 967 64274 Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock 12059 Berlin www.robertoduarte.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mic preamp: hardware or inside Pd?
Thanks Pierre, what i want to do is to get some noises through these coil mics and amplify some objects with piezo mics, no recording here, I mean will be also real time processing, just for jamming and get used to Pd. Eventually I will want to plug in a lap steel guitar or a 3 bridges guitar, it depend on if I can, finally manage to build one... Could be nice a warm tube preamp sound, but for this, is not really needed. Best Roberto El 21/03/2010, a las 13:29, Pierre Massat escribió: > Hi Roberto, > > I don't know much about what you're asking, but i do know that building audio > hardware isn't easy at all, and probably eventually just as expensive as > industrial products. > Now concerning the question of whether you should amplify the signal within > Pd or not, i'd say it all depends on your needs. If you want to record a > singer or an instrument it's always good to have an analog pre-amp before you > feed the signal into Pd. If you need it for something else it may not be > necessary. > I personnaly use Pd to process the sound of my electric guitar in real-time. > For this i use a usb interface (EMU 0404), and the Pd-processed sound ends up > in my tube amp. > Anyway, it is very much a matter of taste here, i mean if you like the sound > of your mics without a pre-amp it's fine. Amplifying the sound in Pd will not > change the sound, whereas amplifying it first with a pre-amp will change it > (depending on whether it has tubes, and on the general quality of the > product). You just have to choose what you like most. > > Pierre > > 2010/3/21 Roberto Duarte > Hello all, > maybe somebody could bring me some lights about this: > > I want to jam with some piezos and coil mics, I could get a cheap M-Audio > Quattro or similar (no pre amp included) and all this into Pd for some > processing. > > What would be better: > 1. to get or build some hardware preamps or > 2. to amplify the signal inside Pd? > > Another way to go could be, instead of buying a dedicated Audio Interface, > build one on an Arduino board or on this new CUI32 USB board, using those > (several) analog inputs. For me, in a way could be good also, because of > learning how to do it. > > I will appreciate any help or tip on this.. > > Roberto > > > Roberto Duarte > +49 30 639 16015 > +49 176 967 64274 > Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock > 12059 Berlin > www.robertoduarte.de > > > > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > Roberto Duarte +49 30 639 16015 +49 176 967 64274 Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock 12059 Berlin www.robertoduarte.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mic preamp: hardware or inside Pd?
Well, then i just wouldn't worry about a pre-amp. What is a 3 bridges guitar by the way? Pierre 2010/3/21 Roberto Duarte > Thanks Pierre, > what i want to do is to get some noises through these coil mics and amplify > some objects with piezo mics, no recording here, I mean will be also real > time processing, just for jamming and get used to Pd. > Eventually I will want to plug in a lap steel guitar or a 3 bridges guitar, > it depend on if I can, finally manage to build one... > Could be nice a warm tube preamp sound, but for this, is not really > needed. > > Best > > Roberto > > > > El 21/03/2010, a las 13:29, Pierre Massat escribió: > > Hi Roberto, > > I don't know much about what you're asking, but i do know that building > audio hardware isn't easy at all, and probably eventually just as expensive > as industrial products. > Now concerning the question of whether you should amplify the signal within > Pd or not, i'd say it all depends on your needs. If you want to record a > singer or an instrument it's always good to have an analog pre-amp before > you feed the signal into Pd. If you need it for something else it may not be > necessary. > I personnaly use Pd to process the sound of my electric guitar in > real-time. For this i use a usb interface (EMU 0404), and the Pd-processed > sound ends up in my tube amp. > Anyway, it is very much a matter of taste here, i mean if you like the > sound of your mics without a pre-amp it's fine. Amplifying the sound in Pd > will not change the sound, whereas amplifying it first with a pre-amp will > change it (depending on whether it has tubes, and on the general quality of > the product). You just have to choose what you like most. > > Pierre > > 2010/3/21 Roberto Duarte > >> Hello all, >> maybe somebody could bring me some lights about this: >> >> I want to jam with some piezos and coil mics, I could get a cheap M-Audio >> Quattro or similar (no pre amp included) and all this into Pd for some >> processing. >> >> What would be better: >> 1. to get or build some hardware preamps or >> 2. to amplify the signal inside Pd? >> >> Another way to go could be, instead of buying a dedicated Audio Interface, >> build one on an Arduino board or on this new CUI32 USB board, using those >> (several) analog inputs. For me, in a way could be good also, because of >> learning how to do it. >> >> I will appreciate any help or tip on this.. >> >> Roberto >> >> >> Roberto Duarte >> +49 30 639 16015 >> +49 176 967 64274 >> Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock >> 12059 Berlin >> www.robertoduarte.de >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > Roberto Duarte > +49 30 639 16015 > +49 176 967 64274 > Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock > 12059 Berlin > www.robertoduarte.de > > > > > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mic preamp: hardware or inside Pd?
Hello all, maybe somebody could bring me some lights about this: I want to jam with some piezos and coil mics, I could get a cheap M-Audio Quattro or similar (no pre amp included) and all this into Pd for some processing. What would be better: 1. to get or build some hardware preamps or 2. to amplify the signal inside Pd? Another way to go could be, instead of buying a dedicated Audio Interface, build one on an Arduino board or on this new CUI32 USB board, using those (several) analog inputs. For me, in a way could be good also, because of learning how to do it. I will appreciate any help or tip on this.. Roberto Roberto Duarte +49 30 639 16015 +49 176 967 64274 Treptowerstr. 21, HH 4 Stock 12059 Berlin www.robertoduarte.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
