[PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[chr]

hello,

...today i go back to an one-year-old-thread.

for some reasons, i had to go back to an old project and i remembered my problems i had 
there, while installing pd-extended and vanilla beside of each other, for using 
"pdsend" but still keeping the extended-version.

now,
one year later, i'm on ubuntu-10.10:
pd-extended 0.42.5 is already installed...
than i install vanilla with:
$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends puredata

et voila:

<>

i just wanted to say -thank you- for solving this- and for making it so easy 
for no-nerds to work with pd ^_^

greetings
christian


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/Mon May 24 23:17:45 CEST 2010/



/  please install "puredata", then manually uninstall "gem", then install

/>/  pd-extended.
/>/  should work.
/>/  /
...
i tried now 2 different ways:
first: i installed puredata with "sudo aptitude install -R" so gem is not 
installed with, automaticly (thats great!)
second: i installed puredata normally with aptitude and after removed it 
manually
but always if i try after to install pd-extended it is still the same conflict 
and i cannot install it
even if i try :
sudo dpkg -i --auto-deconfigure Pd-0.42.5-extended-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb
(i tried it with the nightly-build from today)

if i do it the other way around so first install pd-extended and than puredata 
he wants to remove this libs too:
freeglut3{u} libavifile-0.7c2{u} libflite1{u} libftgl2{u} libimlib2{u} 
libmagick++2{u} pd-extended{a} tcllib{u}
do you think this have something to do with the conflict on my system?
i always ask myself if it is maybe because of my ubuntu karmic?.

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Christian Heck]

> please install "puredata", then manually uninstall "gem", then install
> pd-extended.
> should work.
> 

hello IOhannes,
i tried now 2 different ways:
first: i installed puredata with "sudo aptitude install -R" so gem is not 
installed with, automaticly (thats great!)
second: i installed puredata normally with aptitude and after removed it 
manually
but always if i try after to install pd-extended it is still the same conflict 
and i cannot install it
even if i try :
sudo dpkg -i --auto-deconfigure Pd-0.42.5-extended-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb
(i tried it with the nightly-build from today)

if i do it the other way around so first install pd-extended and than puredata 
he wants to remove this libs too:
freeglut3{u} libavifile-0.7c2{u} libflite1{u} libftgl2{u} libimlib2{u} 
libmagick++2{u} pd-extended{a} tcllib{u}
do you think this have something to do with the conflict on my system?
i always ask myself if it is maybe because of my ubuntu karmic? tomorrow i try 
it on mac osx, maybe it works(i tell you tomorrow...)

i'm sorry for this never-ending-discussion and i'm also a little bit ashamed on 
me 
Be sure if it would be not so important for me than it is right now, i would 
not bother you anymore
greetings
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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

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Pedro Lopes wrote:
> 
> It doesn't make much sense in my head, if I do not need GEM I shouldn't be
> forced to install it. I can try installing GEM to see if then pd will not
> uninstall pd-extended.

you should exactly _not_ install gem (the "puredata" package "suggests"
to install gem, and most modern package managers will automatically
install all "suggest"ed packages (hence the problem) unless told so
otherwise.
please install "puredata", then manually uninstall "gem", then install
pd-extended.
should work.

> 
> if my opinion can count for anything, it would be nice if we could clear out
> the installation of packages to a more transparent/independent way, as
> talked in this list.

i have removed the conflict with "gem" a few days ago; probably it is
already in the nightly builds. so try a recent autobuild.


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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Works for me, for this release the conflict doesn't make sense.  Its something 
to reconsider once pd-extended is split into separate debiaqn packages.

.hc

"IOhannes m zmoelnig"  wrote:

>On 2010-05-19 22:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into
>>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
>>> i don't see any reason why it still conflicts with: pd-externals, gem,
>>> pd-pdp, pd-zexy
>> 
>> Well, the plan going forward is to split pd-extended into individual
>> packages, and we'll have to work out the whole /usr/lib/pdextended vs.
>> /usr/lib/pd vs. /usr/lib/puredata question.  So for now I think it makes
>> sense.  Maybe not tho...
>
>
>sure.
>but for now pd-extended installs Gem.pd_linux into
>/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Gem/ whereas pd-gem installs into
>/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/
>
>the puredata package will never load Gem from the pd-extended libs
>(unless explicitely told so), whereas (current) pd-extended will never
>load Gem from the pd-gem (unless explicitely told so)
>
>they simply do not conflict at all (nor do they "replace" each other)
>instead the conflict creates problems for users like christian, who have
>a hard time installing both puredata and pd-extended.
>
>i will therefore remove the conflict.
>
>
>mfgasdr
>IOhannescd
>

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Christian Heck]

>  Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:34:27 +0100
> Von: Pedro Lopes 
> An: IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> CC: Hans-Christoph Steiner , pd-list@iem.at, 
> queno...@gmx.de
> Betreff: Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?
> 
> 
> Okay, after reading aptitude help a while,
i know what you mean. i learned the last days how to handle with 
aptitude (WOW!!!)

but still not with the conflict between extended and vanilla.:-(

... i continue to try it and waiting hopefully until maybe the 2 versions 
are split into different packages like Hans said last week


greetings 
christian

> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Pedro Lopes 
>  wrote:
> 
> >   I never got use to aptitude, but I think "now's the time"... :)   
> >    
> > 
> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2010-05-20 14:30, Pedro Lopes wrote:
> > >  > Im having a similar problem in my netbook, I have pd-extended 
> > > installed from
> > >  > a deb package and if I try:
> > >  >
> > >  > pe...@bird-nb:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends 
> > > puredata
> > > 
> > >  then i would recommend everybody to use aptitude and check 
> > > why the
> > >  package manager wants to uninstall pd-extended.
> > >  and then resolve the issues.
> > > 
> > >  everything else is guesswork, and i feel i have already spent too 
> > > much
> > >  time guessing.
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> > >  >   pd-extended
> > >  > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> > >  >   puredata
> > >  > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > > 
> > >  and one more guess: maybe your pd-extended was already 
> > > marked for
> > >  removal before that.
> > > 
> > >  fghmsdf
> > > IOhannes
> > > 
> > >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   -- 
> > Pedro Lopes
> > contacto: j...@radiozero.pt
> > website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes 
> >  
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Pedro Lopes]

Okay, after reading aptitude help a while, I tryed installing pd with
pd-extended already installed on Linux. It says extended will be removed due
to 1 conflict. When I expand the view it says its due to the unresolved
dependency GEM.

It doesn't make much sense in my head, if I do not need GEM I shouldn't be
forced to install it. I can try installing GEM to see if then pd will not
uninstall pd-extended.

if my opinion can count for anything, it would be nice if we could clear out
the installation of packages to a more transparent/independent way, as
talked in this list.

best regards,
Pedro

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Pedro Lopes  wrote:

> I never got use to aptitude, but I think "now's the time"... :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>
>> On 2010-05-20 14:30, Pedro Lopes wrote:
>> > Im having a similar problem in my netbook, I have pd-extended installed
>> from
>> > a deb package and if I try:
>> >
>> > pe...@bird-nb:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends puredata
>>
>> then i would recommend everybody to use aptitude and check why the
>> package manager wants to uninstall pd-extended.
>> and then resolve the issues.
>>
>> everything else is guesswork, and i feel i have already spent too much
>> time guessing.
>>
>>
>>
>> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
>> >   pd-extended
>> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
>> >   puredata
>> > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>>
>> and one more guess: maybe your pd-extended was already marked for
>> removal before that.
>>
>> fghmsdf
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
>
>
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> contacto: j...@radiozero.pt
> website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes
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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Pedro Lopes]

I never got use to aptitude, but I think "now's the time"... :)

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> On 2010-05-20 14:30, Pedro Lopes wrote:
> > Im having a similar problem in my netbook, I have pd-extended installed
> from
> > a deb package and if I try:
> >
> > pe...@bird-nb:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends puredata
>
> then i would recommend everybody to use aptitude and check why the
> package manager wants to uninstall pd-extended.
> and then resolve the issues.
>
> everything else is guesswork, and i feel i have already spent too much
> time guessing.
>
>
>
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   pd-extended
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   puredata
> > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>
> and one more guess: maybe your pd-extended was already marked for
> removal before that.
>
> fghmsdf
> IOhannes
>
>


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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-05-20 14:30, Pedro Lopes wrote:
> Im having a similar problem in my netbook, I have pd-extended installed from
> a deb package and if I try:
> 
> pe...@bird-nb:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends puredata

then i would recommend everybody to use aptitude and check why the
package manager wants to uninstall pd-extended.
and then resolve the issues.

everything else is guesswork, and i feel i have already spent too much
time guessing.



> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   pd-extended
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   puredata
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

and one more guess: maybe your pd-extended was already marked for
removal before that.

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Pedro Lopes]

Im having a similar problem in my netbook, I have pd-extended installed from
a deb package and if I try:

pe...@bird-nb:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends puredata

I get him trying to remove pd-extended...

[sudo] password for pedro:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  libflite1 libftgl2 libgraphicsmagick1-dev libmp3lame0 tcllib
  libgraphics-magick-perl tcl8.5 libgraphicsmagick++3
libgraphicsmagick++1-dev
  tk8.5 libquicktime1 libimlib2 freeglut3 libmpeg3-1 libfaad0
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  pd-extended
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  puredata
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1,584kB of archives.
After this operation, 4,366kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-05-19 22:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into
>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
>> i don't see any reason why it still conflicts with: pd-externals, gem,
>> pd-pdp, pd-zexy
> 
> Well, the plan going forward is to split pd-extended into individual
> packages, and we'll have to work out the whole /usr/lib/pdextended vs.
> /usr/lib/pd vs. /usr/lib/puredata question.  So for now I think it makes
> sense.  Maybe not tho...


sure.
but for now pd-extended installs Gem.pd_linux into
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Gem/ whereas pd-gem installs into
/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/

the puredata package will never load Gem from the pd-extended libs
(unless explicitely told so), whereas (current) pd-extended will never
load Gem from the pd-gem (unless explicitely told so)

they simply do not conflict at all (nor do they "replace" each other)
instead the conflict creates problems for users like christian, who have
a hard time installing both puredata and pd-extended.

i will therefore remove the conflict.


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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-05-19 22:23, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> On a related note:
>> Where do externals belong that are neither part of puredata nor
>> pd-extended?
> 
> Check the FAQ for "how do I install externals?"
> 
http://puredata.info/docs/faq

unfortunately there is only a faq "How do I install externals and help
files with Pd-extended?" which is exactly not what roman has asked for.

if i have a (say: debian-) package for a cool onset detection external,
that i know to work with both puredata and pd-extended where should it
be installed to?

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

seems like my mail didn't make it...
i'll try again

On 2010-05-19 21:10, Christian Heck wrote:
> 
> i tried this packages...:
> 
[...]
> 
> maybe it's really on me i'm quite new in linuxthis what i do 

thanks for the detailed info.

> is:
> sudo dpkg -i Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100519-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

this package is fine; you should be able to install both puredata and
pd-extended side-by-side (but read on)

> 
> and if i try to install them (pd and pd-extended) together or pd afterwords 
> than:
> 
> sudo apt-get install puredata
> [sudo] password for christian:
> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut   
> Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig
> Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
>   gem

that's the main culprit:
"puredata" recommends to install "gem", whereas "pd-extended" conflicts
with "gem" (nowadays for no apparant reason)

> do i have to install extended otherwise? and if yes how?

until hans fixes the conflicts, you could simply do as follows:

% dpkg -i Pd-extended...deb
% aptitude install -R puredata

or if you insist in using apt-get

% apt-get install --no-install-recommends puredata


i usually recommend aptitude;  it is compatible with apt-get in most
situations, but has better conflict-resolving features and a nice
ncurses gui; this is very handy for manual conflict resolving; you would
have seen immediately why pd-extended gets uninstalled...

that's it.

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 09:41 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> 
>> anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into
>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
>> i don't see any reason why it still conflicts with: pd-externals, gem,
>> pd-pdp, pd-zexy
> 
> On a related note:
> Where do externals belong that are neither part of puredata nor
> pd-extended?
> 
> Roman


Check the FAQ for "how do I install externals?"

http://puredata.info/docs/faq

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> On 2010-05-18 18:08, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> You can now install both at the same time, so 'pdsend' and 'pdrecieve'
>> are in the puredata package.  The new pd-extended package indeed
>> recommends you install the 'puredata' package.
> 
> i guess this is only a temporary hack until the pd-utils package is
> available:
> 
>> For the next release, there will probably be a 'pd-bin' package or
>> something like that, separate from the 'puredata' and 'pd-extended'
>> packages, that will include pdsend and pdreceive.
> 
> 
> anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into
> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
> i don't see any reason why it still conflicts with: pd-externals, gem,
> pd-pdp, pd-zexy

Well, the plan going forward is to split pd-extended into individual
packages, and we'll have to work out the whole /usr/lib/pdextended vs.
/usr/lib/pd vs. /usr/lib/puredata question.  So for now I think it makes
sense.  Maybe not tho...

.hc

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Christian Heck]

>  Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:48:46 +0200
> Von: IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> An: Christian Heck 
> CC: pd-list@iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?
> 
> 
> then it would be interesting to know which package you downloaded.
> please specify the URL.
> 
> fgamsdr
> IOhannes
> 

i tried this packages...:

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2010-05-15/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100515-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2010-05-16/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100516-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2010-05-17/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100517-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2010-05-18/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100518-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2010-05-19/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100519-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

maybe it's really on me i'm quite new in linuxthis what i do 
is:
sudo dpkg -i Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100519-ubuntu-karmic-i386.deb

and if i try to install them (pd and pd-extended) together or pd afterwords 
than:

sudo apt-get install puredata
[sudo] password for christian:
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut   
Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  gem
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
  pd-zexy
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  pd-extended
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  gem puredata
0 aktualisiert, 2 neu installiert, 1 zu entfernen und 19 nicht 
aktualisiert.
Es müssen noch 0B von 3.010kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 8.835kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren [J/n]?

do i have to install extended otherwise? and if yes how?

thank you 
christian




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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

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On 2010-05-19 17:57, Christian Heck wrote:
> 
>>
>> why do you download 15-may package today (19th may), if there are
>> nightly autobuilds, and chances are high, that the fixes have only been
>> added recently?
>> try a build from 19-may.
>>
>> fm
>> IOhannes
>>
> 
> i tried the nightly auto builds and also this from today of course, 
> IOhannesbut there was no chan(c)ge...not for today...
> 

then it would be interesting to know which package you downloaded.
please specify the URL.

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Christian Heck]

>  Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:46:36 +0200
> Von: IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> An: Christian Heck 
> CC: pd-list@iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?
> 
> On 2010-05-19 17:32, Christian Heck wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2010-05-19 09:38, JOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> > 
> >> which exact version of pd-extended?
> >>
> > 
> >> i think what hans said only applies to recent autobuilds (date 
> matters!)
> >>
> >> i tried with the package found here
> >>
> >> 
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.42.5-extended-debian-squeeze-i386.deb
> >> (uploaded 18-May-2010 07:23EDT) and i can install both pd (0.42.6-1 as
> >> in debian squeeze) and pdextended at the same time. (it kicked some
> >> externals though)
> >  
> > 
> >>  
> >> i tried now today the extended packages for ubuntu from 15-May until 
> >> today.did not worked outi give up.
> > 
> 
> why do you download 15-may package today (19th may), if there are
> nightly autobuilds, and chances are high, that the fixes have only been
> added recently?
> try a build from 19-may.
> 
> fm
> IOhannes
> 

i tried the nightly auto builds and also this from today of course, 
IOhannesbut there was no chan(c)ge...not for today...

christian

> 
> 

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-05-19 17:32, Christian Heck wrote:
> 
>> On 2010-05-19 09:38, JOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> 
>> which exact version of pd-extended?
>>
> 
>> i think what hans said only applies to recent autobuilds (date matters!)
>>
>> i tried with the package found here
>>
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.42.5-extended-debian-squeeze-i386.deb
>> (uploaded 18-May-2010 07:23EDT) and i can install both pd (0.42.6-1 as
>> in debian squeeze) and pdextended at the same time. (it kicked some
>> externals though)
>  
> 
>>  
>> i tried now today the extended packages for ubuntu from 15-May until 
>> today.did not worked outi give up.
> 

why do you download 15-may package today (19th may), if there are
nightly autobuilds, and chances are high, that the fixes have only been
added recently?
try a build from 19-may.

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Christian Heck]

> On 2010-05-19 09:38, JOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> which exact version of pd-extended?
> 

> i think what hans said only applies to recent autobuilds (date matters!)
> 
> i tried with the package found here
> 
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.42.5-extended-debian-squeeze-i386.deb
> (uploaded 18-May-2010 07:23EDT) and i can install both pd (0.42.6-1 as
> in debian squeeze) and pdextended at the same time. (it kicked some
> externals though)
 

>  
> i tried now today the extended packages for ubuntu from 15-May until 
> today.did not worked outi give up.

>  

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Roman Haefeli]

On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 09:41 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into
> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
> i don't see any reason why it still conflicts with: pd-externals, gem,
> pd-pdp, pd-zexy

On a related note:
Where do externals belong that are neither part of puredata nor
pd-extended?

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-05-18 18:08, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> You can now install both at the same time, so 'pdsend' and 'pdrecieve'
> are in the puredata package.  The new pd-extended package indeed
> recommends you install the 'puredata' package.

i guess this is only a temporary hack until the pd-utils package is
available:

> For the next release, there will probably be a 'pd-bin' package or
> something like that, separate from the 'puredata' and 'pd-extended'
> packages, that will include pdsend and pdreceive.


anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
i don't see any reason why it still conflicts with: pd-externals, gem,
pd-pdp, pd-zexy


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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-05-18 20:15, Christian Heck wrote:
> thank you,
> 
> a 'bin' package (or something like this) for pdsend and -receive would be 
> really cool!

interesting how exactly the same question (pdsend/pdreceive missing) was
raised not longer than one week ago on this list.

for what it is worth, also the idea of a separate package for those was
brought up: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-05/078412.html

> if i try -after installed pdextended- to get pdsend it s the old play and 
> i have to install vanilla to get it 

as i read it, this is hans's plan.

> and if i install first vanilla and than pdextended the two collide with 
> each other and i have to remove vanilla (so pdsend too)
> i'm sorry i know i do always the same, but i dont know how to make it 
> different?

which exact version of pd-extended?
i think what hans said only applies to recent autobuilds (date matters!)

i tried with the package found here
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.42.5-extended-debian-squeeze-i386.deb
(uploaded 18-May-2010 07:23EDT) and i can install both pd (0.42.6-1 as
in debian squeeze) and pdextended at the same time. (it kicked some
externals though)

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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Christian Heck]

thank you,

a 'bin' package (or something like this) for pdsend and -receive would be 
really cool!

cause..i dont know, maybe its just not my day but i dont get it to 
install the too of them ( i just installed the new one -pd-extended- from 
terminal but nobody  recommends me to install puredata...??)
if i try -after installed pdextended- to get pdsend it is the old play and 
i have to install vanilla to get it 
and if i install first vanilla and than pdextended the two collide with 
each other and i have to remove vanilla (so pdsend too)
i'm sorry i know i do always the same, but i dont know how to make it 
different?

christian -the lost

> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:08:58 -0700
> Von: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> An: queno...@gmx.de
> CC: pd-list@iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?
> 
> 
> You can now install both at the same time, so 'pdsend' and 
> 'pdrecieve' are in the puredata package.  The new pd-extended package 
> indeed recommends you install the 'puredata' package.
> For the next release, there will probably be a 'pd-bin' package 
> or something like that, separate from the 'puredata' and 'pd-extended' 
> packages, that will include pdsend and pdreceive.
> .hc
> On May 18, 2010, at 3:55 AM, queno...@gmx.de wrote:   
>  
> 
> > hi everyone,
> > i just tried to skript a patch out of my terminal
> > but
> > the answer is: i have to install vanilla to work with pdsend. 
> > but i'd like to keep my extended version.
> > how can i get pdsend for extended?
> > 
> > thanks for help
> > christian
> > 
> > p.s. my pd 0.42.5.extended-20100504 is running on ubuntu karmic 
> > 
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Re: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You can now install both at the same time, so 'pdsend' and 'pdrecieve'  
are in the puredata package.  The new pd-extended package indeed  
recommends you install the 'puredata' package.


For the next release, there will probably be a 'pd-bin' package or  
something like that, separate from the 'puredata' and 'pd-extended'  
packages, that will include pdsend and pdreceive.


.hc

On May 18, 2010, at 3:55 AM, queno...@gmx.de wrote:


hi everyone,
i just tried to skript a patch out of my terminal
but
the answer is: i have to install vanilla to work with pdsend.
but i'd like to keep my extended version.
how can i get pdsend for extended?

thanks for help
christian

p.s. my pd 0.42.5.extended-20100504 is running on ubuntu karmic



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[PD] no pdsend on pdextended?

[quenotte]

hi everyone,
i just tried to skript a patch out of my terminal
but
the answer is: i have to install vanilla to work with pdsend. 
but i'd like to keep my extended version.
how can i get pdsend for extended?

thanks for help
christian

p.s. my pd 0.42.5.extended-20100504 is running on ubuntu karmic
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