Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences
Wow, that sucks! Good luck with the new computer! .hc On Jan 23, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Rich E wrote: Well, I wanted to take this on if others thought it was a good idea, but my laptop was just stolen from my flat (brand new Macbook Pro!).. arg. Hopefully I can scrape together a linux pc or something soon. If so, I´ll chime back in on this thread for suggestions. rich 2010/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:12 PM, András Murányi wrote: Rich E wrote: > Hi list, > > I was just thinking, as I noticed that Hans made it where Apple+, opens the > preferences menu on OS X (as does every other native-mac app), why not group > all the preferences in one dialog, with sub dialogs? This is how other apps > I use on OS X behave and I find it convenient. Besides, if you save the > settings, all of the settings get dumped to the preferences file, no? Why > not have them all in the same dialog, openable by a hotkey. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: The only reason its not like that is because someone hasn't done the work. I'd love to be able to include that work in pd-gui-rewrite. Be aware, it'll probably require some weirdness, because of the nature of the messages that the pref panels send to 'pd'. But I don't think it would be too hard. One downside is that it you couldn't use Tcl/Tk 8.5 if you want it to be included in Pd-vanilla. But I am planning on switching Pd-extended 0.43 to Tcl/Tk 8.5 and above, since 8.5 adds a lot of very useful GUI stuff. .hc Let me think a bit forward on this... when you say a dialog and sub dialogs, do you mean a dialog with multiple tabs (that is what i see to be popular in practice) or literally many modals available from one central modal? I'd say tabs make the most sense, but i see that some of the dialogs are produced by the C side not Tcl/Tk (are they?) in which case it will not be easy to stuff them into the tabs. I'm asking because i would be willing to code this up. In 0.43, the prefs dialogs are split out into separate Tcl files: dialog_audio.tcl dialog_midi.tcl dialog_path.tcl dialog_startup.tcl I think each in its own tab makes a lot of sense. .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences
Well, I wanted to take this on if others thought it was a good idea, but my laptop was just stolen from my flat (brand new Macbook Pro!).. arg. Hopefully I can scrape together a linux pc or something soon. If so, I´ll chime back in on this thread for suggestions. rich 2010/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:12 PM, András Murányi wrote: > > Rich E wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I was just thinking, as I noticed that Hans made it where Apple+, opens > the > > preferences menu on OS X (as does every other native-mac app), why not > group > > all the preferences in one dialog, with sub dialogs? This is how other > apps > > I use on OS X behave and I find it convenient. Besides, if you save the > > settings, all of the settings get dumped to the preferences file, no? > Why > > not have them all in the same dialog, openable by a hotkey. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> The only reason its not like that is because someone hasn't done the >> work. I'd love to be able to include that work in pd-gui-rewrite. Be >> aware, it'll probably require some weirdness, because of the nature of >> the messages that the pref panels send to 'pd'. But I don't think it >> would be too hard. >> >> One downside is that it you couldn't use Tcl/Tk 8.5 if you want it to be >> included in Pd-vanilla. But I am planning on switching Pd-extended 0.43 >> to Tcl/Tk 8.5 and above, since 8.5 adds a lot of very useful GUI stuff. >> >> .hc >> >> > Let me think a bit forward on this... when you say a dialog and sub > dialogs, do you mean a dialog with multiple tabs (that is what i see to be > popular in practice) or literally many modals available from one central > modal? > I'd say tabs make the most sense, but i see that some of the dialogs are > produced by the C > side not Tcl/Tk (are they?) in which case it will not be easy to stuff them > into the tabs. > I'm asking because i would be willing to code this up. > > > In 0.43, the prefs dialogs are split out into separate Tcl files: > dialog_audio.tcl > dialog_midi.tcl > dialog_path.tcl > dialog_startup.tcl > > I think each in its own tab makes a lot of sense. > > .hc > > > > > > Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences
On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:12 PM, András Murányi wrote: Rich E wrote: > Hi list, > > I was just thinking, as I noticed that Hans made it where Apple+, opens the > preferences menu on OS X (as does every other native-mac app), why not group > all the preferences in one dialog, with sub dialogs? This is how other apps > I use on OS X behave and I find it convenient. Besides, if you save the > settings, all of the settings get dumped to the preferences file, no? Why > not have them all in the same dialog, openable by a hotkey. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The only reason its not like that is because someone hasn't done the work. I'd love to be able to include that work in pd-gui-rewrite. Be aware, it'll probably require some weirdness, because of the nature of the messages that the pref panels send to 'pd'. But I don't think it would be too hard. One downside is that it you couldn't use Tcl/Tk 8.5 if you want it to be included in Pd-vanilla. But I am planning on switching Pd-extended 0.43 to Tcl/Tk 8.5 and above, since 8.5 adds a lot of very useful GUI stuff. .hc Let me think a bit forward on this... when you say a dialog and sub dialogs, do you mean a dialog with multiple tabs (that is what i see to be popular in practice) or literally many modals available from one central modal? I'd say tabs make the most sense, but i see that some of the dialogs are produced by the C side not Tcl/Tk (are they?) in which case it will not be easy to stuff them into the tabs. I'm asking because i would be willing to code this up. In 0.43, the prefs dialogs are split out into separate Tcl files: dialog_audio.tcl dialog_midi.tcl dialog_path.tcl dialog_startup.tcl I think each in its own tab makes a lot of sense. .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences
Rich E wrote: > Hi list, > > I was just thinking, as I noticed that Hans made it where Apple+, opens the > preferences menu on OS X (as does every other native-mac app), why not group > all the preferences in one dialog, with sub dialogs? This is how other apps > I use on OS X behave and I find it convenient. Besides, if you save the > settings, all of the settings get dumped to the preferences file, no? Why > not have them all in the same dialog, openable by a hotkey. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > The only reason its not like that is because someone hasn't done the > work. I'd love to be able to include that work in pd-gui-rewrite. Be > aware, it'll probably require some weirdness, because of the nature of > the messages that the pref panels send to 'pd'. But I don't think it > would be too hard. > > One downside is that it you couldn't use Tcl/Tk 8.5 if you want it to be > included in Pd-vanilla. But I am planning on switching Pd-extended 0.43 > to Tcl/Tk 8.5 and above, since 8.5 adds a lot of very useful GUI stuff. > > .hc > > Let me think a bit forward on this... when you say a dialog and sub dialogs, do you mean a dialog with multiple tabs (that is what i see to be popular in practice) or literally many modals available from one central modal? I'd say tabs make the most sense, but i see that some of the dialogs are produced by the C side not Tcl/Tk (are they?) in which case it will not be easy to stuff them into the tabs. I'm asking because i would be willing to code this up. Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences
The only reason its not like that is because someone hasn't done the work. I'd love to be able to include that work in pd-gui-rewrite. Be aware, it'll probably require some weirdness, because of the nature of the messages that the pref panels send to 'pd'. But I don't think it would be too hard. One downside is that it you couldn't use Tcl/Tk 8.5 if you want it to be included in Pd-vanilla. But I am planning on switching Pd-extended 0.43 to Tcl/Tk 8.5 and above, since 8.5 adds a lot of very useful GUI stuff. .hc Rich E wrote: > Hi list, > > I was just thinking, as I noticed that Hans made it where Apple+, opens the > preferences menu on OS X (as does every other native-mac app), why not group > all the preferences in one dialog, with sub dialogs? This is how other apps > I use on OS X behave and I find it convenient. Besides, if you save the > settings, all of the settings get dumped to the preferences file, no? Why > not have them all in the same dialog, openable by a hotkey. > > - rich > > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-gui-rewrite preferences
Hi list, I was just thinking, as I noticed that Hans made it where Apple+, opens the preferences menu on OS X (as does every other native-mac app), why not group all the preferences in one dialog, with sub dialogs? This is how other apps I use on OS X behave and I find it convenient. Besides, if you save the settings, all of the settings get dumped to the preferences file, no? Why not have them all in the same dialog, openable by a hotkey. - rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
