[PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-10 Thread Georg Werner

Hi,

with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes m 
zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with the help 
of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an abstraction for 
alignment and connection of objects.
there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in 
detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)

as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need 
iem_guts - the sources are at 
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)

this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to improve.
cheers
georg


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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-10 Thread Gabriel Vinazza
Man! this is great! excellent job :)

Sadly it returns me a lot of :

... couldn't create
 canvasobjectposition

Is iemlib the lib for iem_guts ?  Maybe I'm missing something there.


BTW.. How do you get the object numbers?  I mean, every object on the
patch has a number (assigned by creation order) but I never figured
out the way to get it in order to mess with connect msgs and things
like that.


Again: thanks, this is a really useful feature.





On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Georg Werner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes m
> zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with the help of
> keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an abstraction for
> alignment and connection of objects.
> there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in detail.
> (they are explained inside the abstraction)
> as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
> there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need iem_guts
> - the sources are at
> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)
> this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to improve.
> cheers
> georg
>
>
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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-10 Thread padovani

wow!

Georg Werner escreveu:

Hi,

with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes m 
zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with the 
help of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an 
abstraction for alignment and connection of objects.
there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in 
detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)

as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need 
iem_guts - the sources are at 
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/) 


this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to improve.
cheers
georg


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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I'd like to try it, but I can't find 2list-sort anywhere.  Is that  
your abstraction?


.hc

On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Georg Werner wrote:


Hi,

with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes  
m zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with  
the help of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an  
abstraction for alignment and connection of objects.
there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in  
detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)

as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need  
iem_guts - the sources are at http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)
this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to  
improve.

cheers
georg


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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

Gabriel Vinazza wrote:

Man! this is great! excellent job :)


yep. congrats, looks great (though i have only seen the video...)



Sadly it returns me a lot of :

... couldn't create
 canvasobjectposition


it's part of iemguts.
it's been a recent addition, so you probably have an old version of 
iemguts lying around...




Is iemlib the lib for iem_guts ?  Maybe I'm missing something there.


as author of this library and the one who gave it its name, i would also 
like to stress that the library is called "iemguts" all lower case and 
without any underscores or funny characters.






BTW.. How do you get the object numbers?  I mean, every object on the
patch has a number (assigned by creation order) but I never figured
out the way to get it in order to mess with connect msgs and things
like that.


this is all part of the wonderful world of iemguts.
(actually, exposing things like these is one of the ideas behind iemguts)


fgmasdr
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-11 Thread Georg Werner



IOhannes m zmoelnig:

Gabriel Vinazza wrote:

Man! this is great! excellent job :)


yep. congrats, looks great (though i have only seen the video...)

thanks! (there was a little mistake so please download toolkit.pd again 
if you want to try it)


as author of this library and the one who gave it its name, i would also 
like to stress that the library is called "iemguts" all lower case and 
without any underscores or funny characters.



sorry. dont know where i got this spelling from. i corrected it.



BTW.. How do you get the object numbers?  I mean, every object on the
patch has a number (assigned by creation order) but I never figured
out the way to get it in order to mess with connect msgs and things
like that.


this is all part of the wonderful world of iemguts.
(actually, exposing things like these is one of the ideas behind iemguts)


yeah. thank you again.

BTW: i think i found a bug in iemguts. if i close a patch with toolkit 
inside and dont save it pd crashes.

cheers
g.

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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-11 Thread Jack
Le lundi 10 août 2009 à 23:22 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
> I'd like to try it, but I can't find 2list-sort anywhere.  Is that  
> your abstraction?

Same problem here. I don't know where to find 'list-sort-id'
 list-sort-id
... couldn't create
++

Jack


> 
> .hc
> 
> On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Georg Werner wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes  
> > m zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with  
> > the help of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an  
> > abstraction for alignment and connection of objects.
> > there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in  
> > detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)
> > as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
> > there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need  
> > iem_guts - the sources are at 
> > http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)
> > this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to  
> > improve.
> > cheers
> > georg
> >
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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Georg Werner wrote:




IOhannes m zmoelnig:

Gabriel Vinazza wrote:

Man! this is great! excellent job :)

yep. congrats, looks great (though i have only seen the video...)
thanks! (there was a little mistake so please download toolkit.pd  
again if you want to try it)


as author of this library and the one who gave it its name, i would  
also like to stress that the library is called "iemguts" all lower  
case and without any underscores or funny characters.

sorry. dont know where i got this spelling from. i corrected it.



BTW.. How do you get the object numbers?  I mean, every object on  
the

patch has a number (assigned by creation order) but I never figured
out the way to get it in order to mess with connect msgs and things
like that.

this is all part of the wonderful world of iemguts.
(actually, exposing things like these is one of the ideas behind  
iemguts)


yeah. thank you again.

BTW: i think i found a bug in iemguts. if i close a patch with  
toolkit inside and dont save it pd crashes.

cheers
g.



Any word on 2list-sort?

.hc




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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Now that works, fun stuff!  A little rough around the edges, but works  
nicely.  One suggestion: 'toolkit' is a very general name, it would be  
nice to have a more descriptive, unique name.  editk? fricklrtk?  fritk?


.hc

On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Georg Werner wrote:


now the oops is on me ;)
i updated it again - i hope now everything is there ...
g.

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:

oops, just saw this.  I too am now missing list-sort-id.
.hc
On Aug 11, 2009, at 4:19 AM, Georg Werner wrote:

oh sorry, i updated [toolkit] so it no more relies on 2list-sort.
please download again: http://www.fricklr.de
cheers
g.

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
I'd like to try it, but I can't find 2list-sort anywhere.  Is  
that your abstraction?

.hc
On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Georg Werner wrote:

Hi,

with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to  
IOhannes m zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do  
patching with the help of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple  
days i made an abstraction for alignment and connection of  
objects.
there are so many features that i don't want to explain them  
here in detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)

as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you  
need iem_guts - the sources are at http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)
this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to  
improve.

cheers
georg


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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-11 Thread Jack
It is working here too.
Nice job.
++

Jack


Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 17:47 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
> Now that works, fun stuff!  A little rough around the edges, but works  
> nicely.  One suggestion: 'toolkit' is a very general name, it would be  
> nice to have a more descriptive, unique name.  editk? fricklrtk?  fritk?
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Georg Werner wrote:
> 
> > now the oops is on me ;)
> > i updated it again - i hope now everything is there ...
> > g.
> >
> > Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
> >> oops, just saw this.  I too am now missing list-sort-id.
> >> .hc
> >> On Aug 11, 2009, at 4:19 AM, Georg Werner wrote:
> >>> oh sorry, i updated [toolkit] so it no more relies on 2list-sort.
> >>> please download again: http://www.fricklr.de
> >>> cheers
> >>> g.
> >>>
> >>> Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
>  I'd like to try it, but I can't find 2list-sort anywhere.  Is  
>  that your abstraction?
>  .hc
>  On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Georg Werner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to  
> > IOhannes m zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do  
> > patching with the help of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple  
> > days i made an abstraction for alignment and connection of  
> > objects.
> > there are so many features that i don't want to explain them  
> > here in detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)
> > as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
> > there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you  
> > need iem_guts - the sources are at 
> > http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)
> > this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to  
> > improve.
> > cheers
> > georg
> >
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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-17 Thread dmotd
hi georg, 

just checked this out proper and the shortcuts are 
brilliant.. what's the scope on building upon 
this? i'd love to share in the development if you 
think there are more areas that the toolkit could 
cover using iemguts. i'm with hans on the 
namechange tho, something like [uishrtcts] or 
[pdfaster]!

many thanks to iohannes and luke for their work on 
the iemguts objects, great stuff! and georg your 
abstraction works a treat (crazy mess!) but its a 
great usable example of the lib..

i'll be submitting my iemguts test case soon, but 
its great to see the potential so well executed!

cheers,

dmotd

Georg Werner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes m  
> zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with the help  
> of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an abstraction for  
> alignment and connection of objects.
> there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in  
> detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)
> as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
> there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need  
> iem_guts - the sources are at  
> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)
> this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to improve.
> cheers
> georg
>
>
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Re: [PD] pd-toolkit first Release

2009-08-19 Thread Georg Werner

Hi,

thanks for all that positive feedback ... i thought about a new name and 
i chose [kbd_ctrl]. ( http://www.fricklr.de/uploads/kbd_ctrl.pd )

i still would like to know any idea for improvement or new functionality.
@Hans-Christoph: maybe you could include it into pd-extended when 
iemguts is included? (cause i don't have svn access)

cu
Georg

PS.: Be careful: i discovered that pd will crash sometimes (most of the 
times if you don't save a patch before closing) if you close a patch 
with [kbd_ctrl] inside. i think this is a bug in iemguts.



dmotd schrieb:
hi georg, 

just checked this out proper and the shortcuts are 
brilliant.. what's the scope on building upon 
this? i'd love to share in the development if you 
think there are more areas that the toolkit could 
cover using iemguts. i'm with hans on the 
namechange tho, something like [uishrtcts] or 
[pdfaster]!


many thanks to iohannes and luke for their work on 
the iemguts objects, great stuff! and georg your 
abstraction works a treat (crazy mess!) but its a 
great usable example of the lib..


i'll be submitting my iemguts test case soon, but 
its great to see the potential so well executed!


cheers,

dmotd

Georg Werner wrote:

Hi,

with the new possibilities provided by iem_guts (thanks to IOhannes m  
zmoelnig and Luke Iannini) its possible now to do patching with the help  
of keyboard shortcuts. in the last couple days i made an abstraction for  
alignment and connection of objects.
there are so many features that i don't want to explain them here in  
detail. (they are explained inside the abstraction)

as an overview i did a screencast: http://www.fricklr.de
there you can get the abstraction, too. (to get it to work you need  
iem_guts - the sources are at  
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemguts/)

this is the first release so please give feedback and ideas to improve.
cheers
georg


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