Re: [PD] place for loaders

2008-03-28 Thread marius schebella
maybe I did not put it clear enough, but that's exactly what I wanted to 
say.
marius.

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> I actually think that 'loaders' should be parallel to 'externals':
> 
> trunk/externals
> trunk/pd
> trunk/loaders
> 
> There is already s much stuff in 'externals', and loaders are not 
> really externals, they are tools for writing externals.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:57 AM, marius schebella wrote:
>> hi,
>> surfing the cvs I just wondered if "loaders" should be a subdir of
>> externals at all? I can't find a discussion about this in the archives
>> and I also think it is not that important. but shouldn't it go side by
>> side with the externals folder?
>> nevermind...
>> marius.
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Re: [PD] place for loaders

2008-03-28 Thread errordeveloper
hi Marius and everybdy,

i'm not quite sure what are they?

but i reckon the organization of makefiles in the svn is too messy,
i was considering an option of actually offering myself taking the
responsibility for that!
but while considering that, i was tald that the concept is that each
subdir is maintained exclusivle by the author ..which i actually
respect, as it sort of right way for me, as it gives the individuality
to the complite set of software - pd+etx+abs :)

still may be we could introduce proper guidlines, especially what
'install' target has to do, the actuall directories where the lib it's
helpfile and exples would be put!
last time i tryed just simple make .pd_linux && make install - it did
try to mess up my setup, so i had either both lib and helpfile in one
place, or the lib in that place and the helpfile somewhere else ;(
and i can remeber what else it done back then ..
so i did just copy every usefull file into two dirs that i named abs and ext,
all helpfiles could go into subdirs of the two, but i did just out then
together. well.. i don't need much stuff of there, just most of the time
i've been happy with core objs ;[

the self organised pojects, i mean those which take their own dir, like
the mtl bunch and netpd are totaly fine as they are ;)

also some makefiles tend to have odd CFLAGS, many are missing -fPIC,
which you need on x86_64, so right .. that all wanted to say about that..



also i will meantion here that there still a little annoying issue
in Millers's src/ :(
the makefile was fixed and the .pd file don't get +x permission when
installed, but they together with some other .c files do have it in the
src dir, which is definetly the source of the prob ;(
well.. i definetly suspect this is comes with cross platform
development, when you use the msdos fs, and copy stuff onto and from it,
all the files on there when mounted on linux turn out to have +x bit (by
default).
the fix for it is to put a line like this into fstab:
/dev/sde1 /mnt/sd1auto 
user,group,noauto,rw,noatime,umask=027,fmask=0117,posix,gid=100 0 0
this sets the file and dir mask, the important bits are umask=027 and fmask=0117
the rest is site specific.



On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:57:44AM -0400, marius schebella wrote:
> hi,
> surfing the cvs I just wondered if "loaders" should be a subdir of 
> externals at all? I can't find a discussion about this in the archives 
> and I also think it is not that important. but shouldn't it go side by 
> side with the externals folder?
> nevermind...
> marius.
> 
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Re: [PD] place for loaders

2008-03-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I actually think that 'loaders' should be parallel to 'externals':

trunk/externals
trunk/pd
trunk/loaders

There is already s much stuff in 'externals', and loaders are not  
really externals, they are tools for writing externals.

.hc

On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:57 AM, marius schebella wrote:
> hi,
> surfing the cvs I just wondered if "loaders" should be a subdir of
> externals at all? I can't find a discussion about this in the archives
> and I also think it is not that important. but shouldn't it go side by
> side with the externals folder?
> nevermind...
> marius.
>
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[PD] place for loaders

2008-03-28 Thread marius schebella
hi,
surfing the cvs I just wondered if "loaders" should be a subdir of 
externals at all? I can't find a discussion about this in the archives 
and I also think it is not that important. but shouldn't it go side by 
side with the externals folder?
nevermind...
marius.

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