Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote:
 Am 25.04.2008 um 12:48 schrieb hard off:
 
 who thought of mtx_*~ though???  a bit over the top isn't it?
 
 why over the top ??


as i understood hardoff's remark, [mtx_*~] is a bit overpowered to do
mere routing (being able to mix signals, have any gain and doing
interpolation) and thus a potential waste of ressources. (cf: mit
kanonen auf spatzen schießen)

nevertheless, [mtx_*~] should be rather optimized when dealing with
multiplication of 1 and 0.


speaking of this, i now remember that i do have 2 audio-routing matrices
in zexy: [demux~] and [mux~] (for pd-extended users these are probably
called [demultiplex~] and [multiplex~])
they have been written as counterparts to the full-featured [matrix~]
(now [mtx_*~]), but as you probably have guessed from my lack of memory,
i hardly ever (actually quite never) use it...


fgmaser
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
hard off wrote:
 isn't there some sort of [matrix~] external that can do that sort of thing?
   i'm sure i saw it before, but can't find it in my current pd-extended

i guess you are referring to [mtx_*~] in iemmatrix (former known as
[matrix~] (and even former being part of zexy.

as i understand it, luigi's solution is for routing messages (even
though he claims including audio i haven't seen this in his
implementation - but i only had a short glance so i probably missed it)


nevertheless, i think it would be interesting if luigi's solution would
somehow integrate into iemmatrix (on a message-level)

fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread hard off
ahh, name changegets me every time.

who thought of mtx_*~ though???  a bit over the top isn't it?

and still no help file.  obviously audio matrices are so simple that
everyone can understand them ;P
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
hard off wrote:
 ahh, name changegets me every time.
 

well, iemmatrix still provides [matrix~] for backward compatibility.

 
 and still no help file.  obviously audio matrices are so simple that
 everyone can understand them ;P

probably you have just deleted this file yourself, since audio matrices
are so simple.

if you want it back, get it from:
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemmatrix/doc/mtx_mul~-help.pd

mfga.df
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread hard off
i didn't delete it.

had a good look, and the help file doesn't seem to be a part of pd-extended
hans build for os x.
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread hard off
actually, none of the matrix help files work on osx

not [matrix], nor [matrix~]. nor [mtx_*~]
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
hard off wrote:
 i didn't delete it.
 
 had a good look, and the help file doesn't seem to be a part of
 pd-extended hans build for os x.

well, how about filing a bug-report then?
(i think it is a packaging bug in pd-extended; but you also might just
have a very outdated version of pd-extended that has not yet included
this helpfile (pre 2006-03-28, according to the logs))

mfgas.dr
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
hard off wrote:
 actually, none of the matrix help files work on osx
 
 not [matrix], nor [matrix~]. nor [mtx_*~]
 

this is a well known bug (though opinions differ here) in Pd-extended,
as it does not allow aliases of object names.

fga,sr
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Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything

2008-04-25 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff

Sorry, i dont get it ??


what do you mean...



Am 25.04.2008 um 12:48 schrieb hard off:


ahh, name changegets me every time.

who thought of mtx_*~ though???  a bit over the top isn't it?


why over the top ??




and still no help file.  obviously audio matrices are so simple  
that everyone can understand them ;P




i have a mtx:*~-help file





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