Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
yes, exactly what I was thinking about. thanks Ivica. M -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > FWIW, the latest pd-l2ork release has a “-unique” flag (disabled by > default) so whenever you open a new file by double-clicking inside a file > browser, it will open it inside an existing instance (if any) or spawn a > new instance (if none). Spawning instances with –unique flag will force > creation of a new instance. > > ** ** > > *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf > Of *Marco Donnarumma > *Sent:* Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:14 AM > *To:* pd-list@iem.at > *Subject:* Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches > > ** ** > > That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance > of Pd from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance > you already had if you tried to open it from the operating system. > > Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two > Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my > musioc...and we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the > audio one was set up. > > ** ** > > well, personally most times, when developing, I need to create > abstractions and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if > two instances of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very > annoying. > > Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at > a time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess. > > I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this > kind of configuration. Like, "always open a new Pd instance", "always use > one Pd only"... something like that. imho it would be useful. > > cheers, > M > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
FWIW, the latest pd-l2ork release has a "-unique" flag (disabled by default) so whenever you open a new file by double-clicking inside a file browser, it will open it inside an existing instance (if any) or spawn a new instance (if none). Spawning instances with -unique flag will force creation of a new instance. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Marco Donnarumma Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:14 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance of Pd from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance you already had if you tried to open it from the operating system. Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my musioc...and we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the audio one was set up. well, personally most times, when developing, I need to create abstractions and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if two instances of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very annoying. Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at a time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess. I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this kind of configuration. Like, "always open a new Pd instance", "always use one Pd only"... something like that. imho it would be useful. cheers, M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
>That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance of Pd >from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance you >already had if you tried to open it from the operating system. >> >>Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two >>Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my musioc...and >>we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the audio one was set >>up. >> >> > > >well, personally most times, when developing, I need to create abstractions >and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if two instances >of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very annoying. > > >Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at a >time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess. > Ah yes, students. Student: "But why can't I just double-click on the patch? It works for everything else?" Tutor: "Because the audio driver will only work with the first instance of Pd you opened." Student: "This software is rubbish. I hate Pd. Can we do something easier? It's too hard." Fortunately I've just been made redundant from the institution where these words were spoken /;-/ Cheers, Ed > >I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this kind of >configuration. Like, "always open a new Pd instance", "always use one Pd >only"... something like that. imho it would be useful. > > >cheers, >M > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
> > That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance > of Pd from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance > you already had if you tried to open it from the operating system. > > Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two > Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my > musioc...and we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the > audio one was set up. > > well, personally most times, when developing, I need to create abstractions and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if two instances of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very annoying. Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at a time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess. I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this kind of configuration. Like, "always open a new Pd instance", "always use one Pd only"... something like that. imho it would be useful. cheers, M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance of Pd from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance you already had if you tried to open it from the operating system. Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my musioc...and we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the audio one was set up. Ed Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad http://www.ninjajamm.com/ Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ - Original Message - > From: Matthias Kronlachner > To: pd-list > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013, 14:06 > Subject: Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches > > One more thing can be annoying on OSX: > If you open a second instance of Pd, the same patch as in the first will > be opened. > > One good thing to do is to create an AppleScript for opening Pd from the > Terminal: > > * Open AppleScript Editor and past the line: (of course adapt Pd-.app) > > tell application "Terminal" to do script > "/Applications/Pd-0.45-2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd" > > * Export as Application and put wherever you want.. Now you can open > multiple instances of Pd with that .app, and patches won't be loaded > automatically. > > Actually funny how complicated things get because of "user experience > optimizations". > > Matthias > > On 9/18/13 6:22 PM, Peter Venus wrote: >> Hello >> >> i assume, you are working on OSX: >> got to system preferences, >> click on the General Settings tab >> un-tick the box "restore windows when quitting and re-opening > apps" >> cheers, >> Peter >> >> Am 18.09.13 17:05, schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig: >>> On 09/18/13 16:01, Olivier Baudry wrote: >>>> Dear all >>>> >>>> Is there any function to prevent the opening of last patch when you >>>> start pd or pd-extended? >>> >>> how do you trigger that behaviour? >>> it doesn't do that here. >>> >>> fgmasdr >>> IOhannes >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
One more thing can be annoying on OSX: If you open a second instance of Pd, the same patch as in the first will be opened. One good thing to do is to create an AppleScript for opening Pd from the Terminal: * Open AppleScript Editor and past the line: (of course adapt Pd-.app) tell application "Terminal" to do script "/Applications/Pd-0.45-2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd" * Export as Application and put wherever you want.. Now you can open multiple instances of Pd with that .app, and patches won't be loaded automatically. Actually funny how complicated things get because of "user experience optimizations". Matthias On 9/18/13 6:22 PM, Peter Venus wrote: Hello i assume, you are working on OSX: got to system preferences, click on the General Settings tab un-tick the box "restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" cheers, Peter Am 18.09.13 17:05, schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig: On 09/18/13 16:01, Olivier Baudry wrote: Dear all Is there any function to prevent the opening of last patch when you start pd or pd-extended? how do you trigger that behaviour? it doesn't do that here. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
> i assume, you are working on OSX: > got to system preferences, > click on the General Settings tab > un-tick the box "restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" > cheers, > Peter > > Yes, it's a new "feature" of Lion OSX 10.7 and 10.8. It is extremely annoying with Pd, because as soon as Pd try to reopen some already dead sockets everything crashes without warning or log. You can lock the pd folder, so to keep the configuration saving system running for other software. Here's the how-to on puredata.org by Dan Wilcox: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToTurnOffResumeWindowsForPDOnMacOSX107Lion I don't have Mac, but had to solve this issue all the time in my last workshop this past months. M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
On 09/18/13 16:01, Olivier Baudry wrote: > Dear all > > Is there any function to prevent the opening of last patch when you > start pd or pd-extended? how do you trigger that behaviour? it doesn't do that here. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
Hello i assume, you are working on OSX: got to system preferences, click on the General Settings tab un-tick the box "restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" cheers, Peter Am 18.09.13 17:05, schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig: On 09/18/13 16:01, Olivier Baudry wrote: Dear all Is there any function to prevent the opening of last patch when you start pd or pd-extended? how do you trigger that behaviour? it doesn't do that here. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] prevent opening of patches
Dear all Is there any function to prevent the opening of last patch when you start pd or pd-extended? <>___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
