Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-19 Thread Marco Donnarumma
+1!

M



On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote:

 well, it isn't more sensitive in terms of resolution: same camera,
 dimensions, etc. it actually currently runs at a lower frame rate than the
 drum, but it is really analyzing the hand multidimensionally so you get much
 more nuance than analyzing the fabric and much more variables are extracted,
 many of them interdependent. so with practice, things start to come along,
 curiously, just like any other instrument...!

 J


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote:

 I'm always impressed by the sensitivity of your instruments. Brilliant
 work.
 MANO looks far more sensitive than the silent drum, or is it just my
 impression?



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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-17 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
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Jack wrote:
 Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
 Hey Jack, 


 You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the
 07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and compile it
 like you regularly do.
 Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the [pix_hand] (with GEM
 0.92-3).


i assume that Gem does not crash (without [pix_hand])

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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jack
Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
 Hey Jack, 
 
 
 You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the
 07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and compile it
 like you regularly do.
Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the [pix_hand] (with GEM
0.92-3).
 
 
 about best_match, you should have a best_match.pd_linux and you can
 put it in the extra folder or make a path to ../externals/best_match/
 Otherwise, you can get best_match.c and compile it yourself.
 What I do is to move the folder called best_match in extra, cd into
 that folder and write make best_match.pd_linux
Here was my error, i have forgotten to put a name before .pd_linux :)
Now best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux compile fine.
I have created an 'externals' folder in the pd 'extra' folder and add a
path : /usr/lib/pd/extra/externals in Pd.
I put the both best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux in it.
So I can create objects [best_match] and [fill0s] without problem ;)
 
 
 I'm you glad you're undertaking the project and any help i can give,
 I'll give.
 However, you must be aware that it is an ongoing project and it is
 surely not bug free!
 
 
 let me know if these recommendations work...
No, i still have a problem.
When i open main.pd (from /hand/track), now pd crash (i guess the crash
come from the auto create GEM window at startup).
Here is what i get from terminal :

pd: malloc.c:3074: sYSMALLOc: Assertion `(old_top == (((mbinptr) (((char
*) ((av)-bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct
malloc_chunk, fd  old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long) (old_size) =
(unsigned long)__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk,
fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))  ~((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) -
1)))  ((old_top)-size  0x1)  ((unsigned long)old_end  pagemask)
== 0)' failed.
pd_gui: pd process exited

I give you a simple patch wich crash Pd when i create the GEM window.

 
 
 by the way, the big file you downloaded contains the sc2 piece, so you
 can see how i'm mapping things.
 
 
 Also, I am using the ps3eye camera in linux (just 40$) at 320x240 with
 the driver by kaswy (there are a couple threads in the archives about
 it).
Yes, i also use this camera and i have to re-install the kaswy's driver
because there is not a full support with the driver brings by ubuntu
9.10.
Thanx for your Help.
++

Jack


 
 
 best,
 
 
 J
 
 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
 Hello Jaime,
 
 I would like to use your Mano Controller, but encounter some
 problems.
 I compile GEM with pix_hand and can create the [pix_hand]
 object.
 However, when i try to open main.pd (from /hand/track), i get
 in Pd
 console :
 
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: 
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: wrong ELF 
 class: ELFCLASS64
  best_match
 ... couldn't create
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux: 
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: 
 ELFCLASS64
  fill0s 8
 
 So i decided to compile them with 'make' and got :
 echo make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
 make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
 
 Then i try make pd_linux (?) and got :
 make: *** No rule to make target `obj1.pd_linux', needed by
 `pd_linux'.
 Stop.
 
 I am sure to miss something but what ?
 Thanx for help.
 ++
 
 Jack
 
 
 
 Le mardi 13 avril 2010 à 19:11 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
 
  hello everyone,
 
 
  In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand
 new
  performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent
 Construction 2
  in a new webpage... lots of new things...
  For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have
 heard
  Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case
 everything is
  done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals...
 
 
  hope you like it...:
 
 
 
 http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2
 
 
  best,
 
 
  J
 
 
 
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  www.jaimeoliver.pe
 
  858 750 0924 (cel)
  858 202 1522 (home)
  9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G
  La Jolla, CA 92037
  USA
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jaime Oliver

  I'll be connected later to tell you what gem version I am using. Are
  you using pd extended or vanilla? I use vanilla and gem from svn, but
  can't remember what version i have in my linux box.
 Pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.


could you try vanilla and gem alone?

J
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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hey Jack,

You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the 07-apr-10-current
folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and compile it like you regularly do.

about best_match, you should have a best_match.pd_linux and you can put it
in the extra folder or make a path to ../externals/best_match/
Otherwise, you can get best_match.c and compile it yourself.
What I do is to move the folder called best_match in extra, cd into that
folder and write make best_match.pd_linux

I'm you glad you're undertaking the project and any help i can give, I'll
give.
However, you must be aware that it is an ongoing project and it is surely
not bug free!

let me know if these recommendations work...

by the way, the big file you downloaded contains the sc2 piece, so you can
see how i'm mapping things.

Also, I am using the ps3eye camera in linux (just 40$) at 320x240 with the
driver by kaswy (there are a couple threads in the archives about it).

best,

J

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:

 Hello Jaime,

 I would like to use your Mano Controller, but encounter some problems.
 I compile GEM with pix_hand and can create the [pix_hand] object.
 However, when i try to open main.pd (from /hand/track), i get in Pd
 console :

 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux:
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: wrong ELF
 class: ELFCLASS64
  best_match
 ... couldn't create
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux:
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux: wrong ELF class:
 ELFCLASS64
  fill0s 8

 So i decided to compile them with 'make' and got :
 echo make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
 make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6

 Then i try make pd_linux (?) and got :
 make: *** No rule to make target `obj1.pd_linux', needed by `pd_linux'.
 Stop.

 I am sure to miss something but what ?
 Thanx for help.
 ++

 Jack



 Le mardi 13 avril 2010 à 19:11 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
  hello everyone,
 
 
  In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new
  performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction 2
  in a new webpage... lots of new things...
  For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard
  Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything is
  done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals...
 
 
  hope you like it...:
 
 
  http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2
 
 
  best,
 
 
  J
 
 
 
  --
  Jaime E Oliver LR
 
  www.jaimeoliver.pe
 
  858 750 0924 (cel)
  858 202 1522 (home)
  9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G
  La Jolla, CA 92037
  USA
 
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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jaime Oliver
I just opened the patch you sent me and have no problems...

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote:

 mmh,

 I've never gotten that.
 are you in 64 bit?

 the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in 640x480 and it
 is just too much.

 what happens if you open a blank patch and create a pix_hand object?

 J


 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:

 Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
  Hey Jack,
 
 
  You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the
  07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and compile it
  like you regularly do.
 Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the [pix_hand] (with GEM
 0.92-3).
 
 
  about best_match, you should have a best_match.pd_linux and you can
  put it in the extra folder or make a path to ../externals/best_match/
  Otherwise, you can get best_match.c and compile it yourself.
  What I do is to move the folder called best_match in extra, cd into
  that folder and write make best_match.pd_linux
 Here was my error, i have forgotten to put a name before .pd_linux :)
 Now best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux compile fine.
 I have created an 'externals' folder in the pd 'extra' folder and add a
 path : /usr/lib/pd/extra/externals in Pd.
 I put the both best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux in it.
 So I can create objects [best_match] and [fill0s] without problem ;)
 
 
  I'm you glad you're undertaking the project and any help i can give,
  I'll give.
  However, you must be aware that it is an ongoing project and it is
  surely not bug free!
 
 
  let me know if these recommendations work...
 No, i still have a problem.
 When i open main.pd (from /hand/track), now pd crash (i guess the crash
 come from the auto create GEM window at startup).
 Here is what i get from terminal :

 pd: malloc.c:3074: sYSMALLOc: Assertion `(old_top == (((mbinptr) (((char
 *) ((av)-bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct
 malloc_chunk, fd  old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long) (old_size) =
 (unsigned long)__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk,
 fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))  ~((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) -
 1)))  ((old_top)-size  0x1)  ((unsigned long)old_end  pagemask)
 == 0)' failed.
 pd_gui: pd process exited

 I give you a simple patch wich crash Pd when i create the GEM window.

 
 
  by the way, the big file you downloaded contains the sc2 piece, so you
  can see how i'm mapping things.
 
 
  Also, I am using the ps3eye camera in linux (just 40$) at 320x240 with
  the driver by kaswy (there are a couple threads in the archives about
  it).
 Yes, i also use this camera and i have to re-install the kaswy's driver
 because there is not a full support with the driver brings by ubuntu
 9.10.
 Thanx for your Help.
 ++

 Jack


 
 
  best,
 
 
  J
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
  Hello Jaime,
 
  I would like to use your Mano Controller, but encounter some
  problems.
  I compile GEM with pix_hand and can create the [pix_hand]
  object.
  However, when i try to open main.pd (from /hand/track), i get
  in Pd
  console :
 
  /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux:
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: wrong ELF
 class: ELFCLASS64
   best_match
  ... couldn't create
  /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux:
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux: wrong ELF class:
 ELFCLASS64
   fill0s 8
 
  So i decided to compile them with 'make' and got :
  echo make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
  make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
 
  Then i try make pd_linux (?) and got :
  make: *** No rule to make target `obj1.pd_linux', needed by
  `pd_linux'.
  Stop.
 
  I am sure to miss something but what ?
  Thanx for help.
  ++
 
  Jack
 
 
 
  Le mardi 13 avril 2010 à 19:11 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
 
   hello everyone,
  
  
   In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand
  new
   performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent
  Construction 2
   in a new webpage... lots of new things...
   For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have
  heard
   Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case
  everything is
   done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals...
  
  
   hope you like it...:
  
  
  
 
 http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2
  
  
   best,
  
  
   J
  
  
  
   --
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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jack
Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 11:43 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
 mmh, 
 
 
 I've never gotten that.
 are you in 64 bit?
No 32. Ubuntu 9.10, pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.
 
 
 the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in 640x480
 and it is just too much.
But i don't use any camera with the patch i sent in my previous mail,
just a [gemhead] and a [pix_hand].
 
 
 what happens if you open a blank patch and create a pix_hand object?
Nothing. The object is created.
++

Jack


 
 
 J
 
 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
 Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime Oliver a
 écrit :
  Hey Jack,
 
 
  You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the
  07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and
 compile it
  like you regularly do.
 
 Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the [pix_hand]
 (with GEM
 0.92-3).
 
 
  about best_match, you should have a best_match.pd_linux and
 you can
  put it in the extra folder or make a path
 to ../externals/best_match/
  Otherwise, you can get best_match.c and compile it yourself.
  What I do is to move the folder called best_match in extra,
 cd into
  that folder and write make best_match.pd_linux
 
 Here was my error, i have forgotten to put a name
 before .pd_linux :)
 Now best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux compile fine.
 I have created an 'externals' folder in the pd 'extra' folder
 and add a
 path : /usr/lib/pd/extra/externals in Pd.
 I put the both best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux in it.
 So I can create objects [best_match] and [fill0s] without
 problem ;)
 
 
  I'm you glad you're undertaking the project and any help i
 can give,
  I'll give.
  However, you must be aware that it is an ongoing project and
 it is
  surely not bug free!
 
 
  let me know if these recommendations work...
 
 No, i still have a problem.
 When i open main.pd (from /hand/track), now pd crash (i guess
 the crash
 come from the auto create GEM window at startup).
 Here is what i get from terminal :
 
 pd: malloc.c:3074: sYSMALLOc: Assertion `(old_top ==
 (((mbinptr) (((char
 *) ((av)-bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct
 malloc_chunk, fd  old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long)
 (old_size) =
 (unsigned long)__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk,
 fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))  ~((2 *
 (sizeof(size_t))) -
 1)))  ((old_top)-size  0x1)  ((unsigned long)old_end 
 pagemask)
 == 0)' failed.
 pd_gui: pd process exited
 
 I give you a simple patch wich crash Pd when i create the GEM
 window.
 
 
 
  by the way, the big file you downloaded contains the sc2
 piece, so you
  can see how i'm mapping things.
 
 
  Also, I am using the ps3eye camera in linux (just 40$) at
 320x240 with
  the driver by kaswy (there are a couple threads in the
 archives about
  it).
 
 Yes, i also use this camera and i have to re-install the
 kaswy's driver
 because there is not a full support with the driver brings by
 ubuntu
 9.10.
 Thanx for your Help.
 ++
 
 Jack
 
 
 
 
 
  best,
 
 
  J
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
  Hello Jaime,
 
  I would like to use your Mano Controller, but
 encounter some
  problems.
  I compile GEM with pix_hand and can create the
 [pix_hand]
  object.
  However, when i try to open main.pd
 (from /hand/track), i get
  in Pd
  console :
 
 
   /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: 
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: wrong ELF 
 class: ELFCLASS64
   best_match
  ... couldn't create
 
   /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux: 
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/fill0s.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: 
 ELFCLASS64
   fill0s 8
 
  So i decided to compile them with 'make' and got :
  echo make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
  make pd_linux, pd_nt, pd_irix5, or pd_irix6
 
 

Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jaime Oliver
I have to leave right now.

I'll be connected later to tell you what gem version I am using. Are you
using pd extended or vanilla? I use vanilla and gem from svn, but can't
remember what version i have in my linux box.

I also know i am using 64 bit, but that shouldn't be a problem if you're
compiling your own pix_hand...

J

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:

 Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 11:43 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
  mmh,
 
 
  I've never gotten that.
  are you in 64 bit?
 No 32. Ubuntu 9.10, pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.
 
 
  the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in 640x480
  and it is just too much.
 But i don't use any camera with the patch i sent in my previous mail,
 just a [gemhead] and a [pix_hand].
 
 
  what happens if you open a blank patch and create a pix_hand object?
 Nothing. The object is created.
 ++

 Jack


 
 
  J
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
  Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime Oliver a
  écrit :
   Hey Jack,
  
  
   You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from the
   07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in Gem, and
  compile it
   like you regularly do.
 
  Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the [pix_hand]
  (with GEM
  0.92-3).
  
  
   about best_match, you should have a best_match.pd_linux and
  you can
   put it in the extra folder or make a path
  to ../externals/best_match/
   Otherwise, you can get best_match.c and compile it yourself.
   What I do is to move the folder called best_match in extra,
  cd into
   that folder and write make best_match.pd_linux
 
  Here was my error, i have forgotten to put a name
  before .pd_linux :)
  Now best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux compile fine.
  I have created an 'externals' folder in the pd 'extra' folder
  and add a
  path : /usr/lib/pd/extra/externals in Pd.
  I put the both best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux in it.
  So I can create objects [best_match] and [fill0s] without
  problem ;)
  
  
   I'm you glad you're undertaking the project and any help i
  can give,
   I'll give.
   However, you must be aware that it is an ongoing project and
  it is
   surely not bug free!
  
  
   let me know if these recommendations work...
 
  No, i still have a problem.
  When i open main.pd (from /hand/track), now pd crash (i guess
  the crash
  come from the auto create GEM window at startup).
  Here is what i get from terminal :
 
  pd: malloc.c:3074: sYSMALLOc: Assertion `(old_top ==
  (((mbinptr) (((char
  *) ((av)-bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct
  malloc_chunk, fd  old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long)
  (old_size) =
  (unsigned long)__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk,
  fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))  ~((2 *
  (sizeof(size_t))) -
  1)))  ((old_top)-size  0x1)  ((unsigned long)old_end 
  pagemask)
  == 0)' failed.
  pd_gui: pd process exited
 
  I give you a simple patch wich crash Pd when i create the GEM
  window.
 
  
  
   by the way, the big file you downloaded contains the sc2
  piece, so you
   can see how i'm mapping things.
  
  
   Also, I am using the ps3eye camera in linux (just 40$) at
  320x240 with
   the driver by kaswy (there are a couple threads in the
  archives about
   it).
 
  Yes, i also use this camera and i have to re-install the
  kaswy's driver
  because there is not a full support with the driver brings by
  ubuntu
  9.10.
  Thanx for your Help.
  ++
 
  Jack
 
 
 
  
  
   best,
  
  
   J
  
   On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
   Hello Jaime,
  
   I would like to use your Mano Controller, but
  encounter some
   problems.
   I compile GEM with pix_hand and can create the
  [pix_hand]
   object.
   However, when i try to open main.pd
  (from /hand/track), i get
   in Pd
   console :
  
  
/home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux:
 /home/jack/Bureau/hand/track/../externals/best_match.pd_linux: wrong ELF
 class: ELFCLASS64
best_match
   ... couldn't create
  

Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread luigi rensinghoff
Hey Jaime

 i can only talk for me ;-) I like it a lotthe MANO controller.

And its just one object ??? 

Very cool work... please organize concerts in europe, or better germany 

Thumbs up

ciao luigi

Am 16.04.2010 um 23:46 schrieb pd-list-requ...@iem.at:

 hello everyone,
 
 
 In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand
new
 performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent
Construction 2
 in a new webpage... lots of new things...
 For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have
heard
 Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case
everything is
 done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals...
 
 
 hope you like it...:
 
 
 

Dipl.-Ing. Luigi Rensinghoff
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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jack
Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 11:59 -0700, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
 I have to leave right now.
OK.
 
 
 I'll be connected later to tell you what gem version I am using. Are
 you using pd extended or vanilla? I use vanilla and gem from svn, but
 can't remember what version i have in my linux box.
Pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.
 
 
 I also know i am using 64 bit, but that shouldn't be a problem if
 you're compiling your own pix_hand...
I have re-compiled and always the same crash with my previous patch
(after the creation of the GEM window).
Anyway, thanx for your help.
++

Jack


 
 
 J
 
 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
 Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 11:43 -0700, Jaime Oliver a
 écrit :
  mmh,
 
 
  I've never gotten that.
  are you in 64 bit?
 
 No 32. Ubuntu 9.10, pd-extended 0.41.4 and GEM 0.92-3.
 
 
  the other possibility is that you have the camera driver in
 640x480
  and it is just too much.
 
 But i don't use any camera with the patch i sent in my
 previous mail,
 just a [gemhead] and a [pix_hand].
 
 
  what happens if you open a blank patch and create a pix_hand
 object?
 
 Nothing. The object is created.
 ++
 
 Jack
 
 
 
 
 
  J
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org
 wrote:
  Le vendredi 16 avril 2010 à 10:18 -0700, Jaime
 Oliver a
  écrit :
   Hey Jack,
  
  
   You need to put pix_hand.cpp and pix_hand.h (from
 the
   07-apr-10-current folder) in the Pixes folder in
 Gem, and
  compile it
   like you regularly do.
 
  Yes, it is what i did before. So i can create the
 [pix_hand]
  (with GEM
  0.92-3).
  
  
   about best_match, you should have a
 best_match.pd_linux and
  you can
   put it in the extra folder or make a path
  to ../externals/best_match/
   Otherwise, you can get best_match.c and compile it
 yourself.
   What I do is to move the folder called best_match
 in extra,
  cd into
   that folder and write make best_match.pd_linux
 
  Here was my error, i have forgotten to put a name
  before .pd_linux :)
  Now best_match.pd_linux and fill0s.pd_linux compile
 fine.
  I have created an 'externals' folder in the pd
 'extra' folder
  and add a
  path : /usr/lib/pd/extra/externals in Pd.
  I put the both best_match.pd_linux and
 fill0s.pd_linux in it.
  So I can create objects [best_match] and [fill0s]
 without
  problem ;)
  
  
   I'm you glad you're undertaking the project and
 any help i
  can give,
   I'll give.
   However, you must be aware that it is an ongoing
 project and
  it is
   surely not bug free!
  
  
   let me know if these recommendations work...
 
  No, i still have a problem.
  When i open main.pd (from /hand/track), now pd crash
 (i guess
  the crash
  come from the auto create GEM window at startup).
  Here is what i get from terminal :
 
  pd: malloc.c:3074: sYSMALLOc: Assertion `(old_top ==
  (((mbinptr) (((char
  *) ((av)-bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) -
 __builtin_offsetof (struct
  malloc_chunk, fd  old_size == 0) || ((unsigned
 long)
  (old_size) =
  (unsigned long)__builtin_offsetof (struct
 malloc_chunk,
  fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))  ~((2 *
  (sizeof(size_t))) -
  1)))  ((old_top)-size  0x1)  ((unsigned
 long)old_end 
  pagemask)
  == 0)' failed.
  pd_gui: pd process exited
 
  I give you a simple patch wich crash Pd when i
 create the GEM
  window.
 
  
  
   by the way, the big file you downloaded contains
 the sc2
  piece, so you
   can see how i'm mapping things.
  

Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-16 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hey Luigi,

It is only one object that does the tracking. there is another one to
achieve continuity between the variables and across frames. (i.e. to know
that a finger in one frame is the same finger in the next frame...)

other than those two objects, it is all vanilla pd and latest gem.


 Very cool work... please organize concerts in europe, or better germany


Thanks!
about concerts, I'll do them gladly, the question as always is how to get
the money to cross the pond... i am applying to things though, so who
knows... In the mean time, there are a few concerts in the us and
latinamerica coming up.

all the best,

J






 Thumbs up

 ciao luigi

 Am 16.04.2010 um 23:46 schrieb pd-list-requ...@iem.at:

  hello everyone,
 
 
  In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand
 new
  performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent
 Construction 2
  in a new webpage... lots of new things...
  For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have
 heard
  Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case
 everything is
  done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals...
 
 
  hope you like it...:
 
 
 

 Dipl.-Ing. Luigi Rensinghoff
 postmas...@halbsolaut.de
 Mobil: 01775412191
 Festnetz: 0351-7966370
 web: www.halbsolaut.de


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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-15 Thread Jaime Oliver
well, it isn't more sensitive in terms of resolution: same camera,
dimensions, etc. it actually currently runs at a lower frame rate than the
drum, but it is really analyzing the hand multidimensionally so you get much
more nuance than analyzing the fabric and much more variables are extracted,
many of them interdependent. so with practice, things start to come along,
curiously, just like any other instrument...!

J

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 I'm always impressed by the sensitivity of your instruments. Brilliant
 work.
 MANO looks far more sensitive than the silent drum, or is it just my
 impression?



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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I like the expressivity in the gestures that you've managed to harness

.hc

On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:


hello everyone,

In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new  
performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction  
2 in a new webpage... lots of new things...
For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard  
Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything  
is done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals...


hope you like it...:

http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2

best,

J


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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-14 Thread Jaime Oliver
thanks! j

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I like the expressivity in the gestures that you've managed to harness

 .hc

 On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:

 hello everyone,

 In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new performance
 with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction 2 in a new
 webpage... lots of new things...
 For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard Silent
 Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything is done in
 Pd/GEM and a few new externals...

 hope you like it...:

 http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2

 best,

 J


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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-14 Thread Andrew Faraday

once again, Jamie. Seriously impressed with this interface. 
Is there any video explaining this, as there was with the silent drum?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:47:34 -0700
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thanks! j

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:


I like the expressivity in the gestures that you've managed to harness
.hc
On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:

hello everyone, 
In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new performance 
with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction 2 in a new webpage... 
lots of new things...
 For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard Silent 
Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything is done in Pd/GEM 
and a few new externals...
hope you like it...:
 
http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2 
best,

J

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Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-14 Thread Jaime Oliver
thx again.

no video explaining yet... not enough time, but i'll get to that soon,
probably in one or two months and post it to the list. I'll probably get
chunks of this video, post the original samples and explain their
manipulations as their might not be enough time to shoot video again...

J

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote:

  once again, Jamie. Seriously impressed with this interface.

 Is there any video explaining this, as there was with the silent drum?

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 thanks! j

 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I like the expressivity in the gestures that you've managed to harness

 .hc

 On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:

 hello everyone,

 In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new performance
 with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction 2 in a new
 webpage... lots of new things...
  For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard Silent
 Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything is done in
 Pd/GEM and a few new externals...

 hope you like it...:

 http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2

 best,

 J


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[PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...

2010-04-13 Thread Jaime Oliver
hello everyone,

In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new performance
with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction 2 in a new
webpage... lots of new things...
For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard Silent
Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything is done in
Pd/GEM and a few new externals...

hope you like it...:

http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/workobra/silent-construction-series/sc2

best,

J


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