Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-07 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

12.04 or 12.10 drivers can't be install because they need udev0 and 13.04 
provide udev1.
i compile from source the 12.10 version and i still have the same crash.

cheers
c

Le 07/06/2013 02:16, crini...@gmx.net a écrit :


Not a real solution, but I found the reason for the crashes was the intel 
driver for me, so I replaced it by an older one.

I am still using ubuntu 12.04, but I installed newer intel drivers from a ppa 
some time ago and suddenly got the same problem as users updating to 13.04.

for me the reason was this package (has newer driver sources than 12.04):
https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver/+sourcepub/3088701/+listing-archive-extra

I downgraded to the regular 12.04 package for the intel driver and the x 
crashes were gone. maybe it's possible to install the package from 12.04 on a 
13.04 installation?

got mine from here... 
http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xserver-xorg-video-intel

Martin


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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-07 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi List,

 I can verify the exact same problem Cyrille describes (server crash
when creating a new object inputting more than three letters after
opening a big patch) on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and the new Intel
drivers. A friend who took a closer look into the problem told me it
is happening on the draw routine of the dashed line when the new
object box has to get resized after the 3rd letter.

Going back to the default Ubuntu drivers resolved this for me, too.

--
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Am Freitag, den 07. Juni 2013 um 02:16:01 Uhr (+0200) schrieb crini...@gmx.net:
 On 06/06/2013 07:08 PM, Jack wrote:
 
 Le 01/05/2013 10:01, Cyrille Henry a écrit :
 
 hello,
 
 there always been problem with nvidia proprietary driver. On 12.10, i
 was not able to start audacity.
 i don't know about skype.
 
 i think i read somwhere that the intel GPU drivers was completely
 rewriten, so that's certainly the cause of the bug. since it affect
 lot's of people i hope that the ubuntu team will find a workaround or
 jump back to the old version quite quickly.
 
 but yes, the wait few weeks before updating rules is still valid.
 
 cheers
 c
 
 
 Le 30/04/2013 20:12, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 
 ... so it sounds like there are at least 2 serious problems with 
 the new
 ubuntu affecting several applications - maybe a bit tighter 
 quality
 control
 is needed on their end :)
 
 M
 
 
 Here with (to use Intel graphics):
 $ skype
 it is OK.
 
 But with (to use NVidia):
 $ optirun skype
 Skype crash.
 
 But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or 
 without
 optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you 
 open a
 big
 (?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 
 letters).
 If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several 
 objects
 without problem...
 
 My configuration :
 Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
 Ubuntu 13.04
 Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed 
 Apr 17
 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 ++
 
 Jack
 
 
 
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 ++
 
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 Not a real solution, but I found the reason for the crashes was the
 intel driver for me, so I replaced it by an older one.
 
 I am still using ubuntu 12.04, but I installed newer intel drivers from
 a ppa some time ago and suddenly got the same problem as users updating
 to 13.04.
 
 for me the reason was this package (has newer driver sources than
 12.04):
 https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver/+sourcepub/3088701/
 +listing-archive-extra
 
 I downgraded to the regular 12.04 package for the intel driver and the
 x crashes were gone. maybe it's possible to install the package from
 12.04 on a 13.04 installation?
 
 got mine from here... http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/
 xserver-xorg-video-intel
 
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-07 Thread puredata
finally i took the time to compile from source (github) and the  
problem is gone.


you can try to use mine(!) 64bit:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1455235/intel_drv.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so

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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-07 Thread Cyrille Henry

it did not solve the problem for me.

where did you get the source from?

did you only put this file in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers?

thanks
Cyrille


Le 07/06/2013 23:56, pured...@11h11.com a écrit :

finally i took the time to compile from source (github) and the problem is gone.

you can try to use mine(!) 64bit:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1455235/intel_drv.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so

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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-07 Thread puredata

where did you get the source from?


http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/



did you only put this file in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers?


yes only this file


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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-07 Thread Cyrille Henry


ok, so that's not different from what i already done.
i'm so jealous that it work for you.
did anyone else can confirm that this work / did not work?

thanks
C

Le 08/06/2013 01:53, pured...@11h11.com a écrit :

where did you get the source from?


http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/



did you only put this file in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers?


yes only this file




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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-06 Thread Jack
Le 01/05/2013 10:01, Cyrille Henry a écrit :
 hello,

 there always been problem with nvidia proprietary driver. On 12.10, i
 was not able to start audacity.
 i don't know about skype.

 i think i read somwhere that the intel GPU drivers was completely
 rewriten, so that's certainly the cause of the bug. since it affect
 lot's of people i hope that the ubuntu team will find a workaround or
 jump back to the old version quite quickly.

 but yes, the wait few weeks before updating rules is still valid.

 cheers
 c


 Le 30/04/2013 20:12, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 ... so it sounds like there are at least 2 serious problems with the new
 ubuntu affecting several applications - maybe a bit tighter quality
 control
 is needed on their end :)

 M

 Here with (to use Intel graphics):
 $ skype
 it is OK.

 But with (to use NVidia):
 $ optirun skype
 Skype crash.

 But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or without
 optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you open a
 big
 (?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 letters).
 If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several objects
 without problem...

 My configuration :
 Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
 Ubuntu 13.04
 Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Someone has found a solution for this X crash ?
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-06 Thread puredata
You can remove xserver-xorg-video-intel package and reboot, but then  
no more acceleration. As for me, I will reinstall Ubuntu Studio 12.04.  
My system looks shaky with 13.04 (random crash of Gimp, not sure if  
it's related to intel driver).


I tried also to install:
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.1

Same problem.

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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-06 Thread Cyrille Henry

i did not found any solution either.
c


Le 07/06/2013 01:07, pured...@11h11.com a écrit :

You can remove xserver-xorg-video-intel package and reboot, but then no more 
acceleration. As for me, I will reinstall Ubuntu Studio 12.04. My system looks 
shaky with 13.04 (random crash of Gimp, not sure if it's related to intel 
driver).

I tried also to install:
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.1

Same problem.

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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-06-06 Thread crinimal

On 06/06/2013 07:08 PM, Jack wrote:

Le 01/05/2013 10:01, Cyrille Henry a écrit :

hello,

there always been problem with nvidia proprietary driver. On 12.10, i
was not able to start audacity.
i don't know about skype.

i think i read somwhere that the intel GPU drivers was completely
rewriten, so that's certainly the cause of the bug. since it affect
lot's of people i hope that the ubuntu team will find a workaround or
jump back to the old version quite quickly.

but yes, the wait few weeks before updating rules is still valid.

cheers
c


Le 30/04/2013 20:12, Miller Puckette a écrit :

... so it sounds like there are at least 2 serious problems with the new
ubuntu affecting several applications - maybe a bit tighter quality
control
is needed on their end :)

M


Here with (to use Intel graphics):
$ skype
it is OK.

But with (to use NVidia):
$ optirun skype
Skype crash.

But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or without
optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you open a
big
(?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 letters).
If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several objects
without problem...

My configuration :
Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
Ubuntu 13.04
Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
++

Jack



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Someone has found a solution for this X crash ?
++

Jack
Not a real solution, but I found the reason for the crashes was the 
intel driver for me, so I replaced it by an older one.


I am still using ubuntu 12.04, but I installed newer intel drivers from 
a ppa some time ago and suddenly got the same problem as users updating 
to 13.04.


for me the reason was this package (has newer driver sources than 12.04):
https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver/+sourcepub/3088701/+listing-archive-extra

I downgraded to the regular 12.04 package for the intel driver and the x 
crashes were gone. maybe it's possible to install the package from 12.04 
on a 13.04 installation?


got mine from here... 
http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xserver-xorg-video-intel


Martin
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-05-01 Thread enrike

hi

same goes for me. this is a Lenovo X61s with intel card (Chipset: Intel 
i965M). I installed latest Ubuntu and latest Pd extended. I tried both 
with Fluxbox and Unity with same results. I noticed this is kind of 
random it does not happen always. I can create some objects but then 
suddenly when creating a new one it crashes.


I guess it is either go back to previous version of ubuntu or wait till 
this is solved.


enrike

ar., 2013.eko apiren 30a 11:49(e)an, Cyrille Henry(e)k idatzi zuen:

hello,

for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

cheers
c



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-05-01 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

there always been problem with nvidia proprietary driver. On 12.10, i was not 
able to start audacity.
i don't know about skype.

i think i read somwhere that the intel GPU drivers was completely rewriten, so 
that's certainly the cause of the bug. since it affect lot's of people i hope 
that the ubuntu team will find a workaround or jump back to the old version 
quite quickly.

but yes, the wait few weeks before updating rules is still valid.

cheers
c


Le 30/04/2013 20:12, Miller Puckette a écrit :

... so it sounds like there are at least 2 serious problems with the new
ubuntu affecting several applications - maybe a bit tighter quality control
is needed on their end :)

M


Here with (to use Intel graphics):
$ skype
it is OK.

But with (to use NVidia):
$ optirun skype
Skype crash.

But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or without
optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you open a big
(?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 letters).
If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several objects
without problem...

My configuration :
Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
Ubuntu 13.04
Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
++

Jack



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[PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the screen 
goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

cheers
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread me.grimm
hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

m

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
 screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

 cheers
 c



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Henry



Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :

hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
do you have an intel GPU?

c



m

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:

hello,

for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

cheers
c



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread me.grimm
yup intel... 3 different machines i have running OK.

... im on Lubuntu BTW if that matters.

m



On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:


 Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :

 hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

 but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

 well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
 do you have an intel GPU?


 c


 m

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:

 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
 screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

 cheers
 c



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread stéfan piat
hello, I can confirm this bug, (intel GPU + xubuntu 13.04)
but this crash occured to me not only with pd :
random loggofs whith random apps (or browsing folders from thoses apps)



2013/4/30 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net



 Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :

  hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

 but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

 well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
 do you have an intel GPU?


 c


 m

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:

 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Henry



Le 30/04/2013 14:11, me.grimm a écrit :

yup intel... 3 different machines i have running OK.

... im on Lubuntu BTW if that matters.

that's good to know. thanks
c



m



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Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :


hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?


well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
do you have an intel GPU?


c



m

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:


hello,

for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

cheers
c



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Thanks for the update guys, and sorry about the mess you're going through.

I try to avoid upgrading to distro taht are not LTS. Also, be careful, as
the 13.04 will be supported only for 4 months. it's a transitional distro.

M




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 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
 screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

 cheers
 c



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
This is anecdotal, but Max Neupert told me yesterday that he installed
13.04 on a machine and found that he could no longer run skype.  Apparently
the proprietary nvidia driver is to blame.  So if you have nvidia graphics
(no matter what kind of CPU) beware!

Miller

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 02:35:12PM +0200, stéfan piat wrote:
 hello, I can confirm this bug, (intel GPU + xubuntu 13.04)
 but this crash occured to me not only with pd :
 random loggofs whith random apps (or browsing folders from thoses apps)
 
 
 
 2013/4/30 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net
 
 
 
  Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :
 
   hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.
 
  but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?
 
  well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
  do you have an intel GPU?
 
 
  c
 
 
  m
 
  On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
 
  hello,
 
  for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!
 
  on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
  when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
  screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...
 
  cheers
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Max
the related bugreport:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-310/+bug/1134030


Am 30.04.2013 um 18:08 schrieb Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:

 This is anecdotal, but Max Neupert told me yesterday that he installed
 13.04 on a machine and found that he could no longer run skype.  Apparently
 the proprietary nvidia driver is to blame.  So if you have nvidia graphics
 (no matter what kind of CPU) beware!
 
 Miller
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 02:35:12PM +0200, stéfan piat wrote:
 hello, I can confirm this bug, (intel GPU + xubuntu 13.04)
 but this crash occured to me not only with pd :
 random loggofs whith random apps (or browsing folders from thoses apps)
 
 
 
 2013/4/30 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net
 
 
 
 Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :
 
 hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.
 
 but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?
 
 well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
 do you have an intel GPU?
 
 
 c
 
 
 m
 
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 hello,
 
 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!
 
 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
 screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...
 
 cheers
 c
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Jack
Le 30/04/2013 18:19, Max a écrit :
 the related bugreport:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-310/+bug/1134030


 Am 30.04.2013 um 18:08 schrieb Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:

 This is anecdotal, but Max Neupert told me yesterday that he installed
 13.04 on a machine and found that he could no longer run skype.  Apparently
 the proprietary nvidia driver is to blame.  So if you have nvidia graphics
 (no matter what kind of CPU) beware!

 Miller

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 02:35:12PM +0200, stéfan piat wrote:
 hello, I can confirm this bug, (intel GPU + xubuntu 13.04)
 but this crash occured to me not only with pd :
 random loggofs whith random apps (or browsing folders from thoses apps)



 2013/4/30 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net


 Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :

 hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.
 but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

 well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
 do you have an intel GPU?


 c


 m

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 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
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Here with (to use Intel graphics):
$ skype
it is OK.

But with (to use NVidia):
$ optirun skype
Skype crash.

But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or without
optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you open a big
(?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 letters).
If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several objects
without problem...

My configuration :
Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
Ubuntu 13.04
Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
++

Jack



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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
... so it sounds like there are at least 2 serious problems with the new
ubuntu affecting several applications - maybe a bit tighter quality control
is needed on their end :)

M

 Here with (to use Intel graphics):
 $ skype
 it is OK.
 
 But with (to use NVidia):
 $ optirun skype
 Skype crash.
 
 But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or without
 optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you open a big
 (?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 letters).
 If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several objects
 without problem...
 
 My configuration :
 Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
 Ubuntu 13.04
 Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 ++
 
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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread Jack
Le 30/04/2013 20:12, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 ... so it sounds like there are at least 2 serious problems with the new
 ubuntu affecting several applications - maybe a bit tighter quality control
 is needed on their end :)

 M

 Here with (to use Intel graphics):
 $ skype
 it is OK.

 But with (to use NVidia):
 $ optirun skype
 Skype crash.

 But with Pd, it is different : Pd crash X server even with or without
 optirun as describe Cyrille in his previous message (when you open a big
 (?) patch and start to add object that contains more than 3 letters).
 If you start a patch from scratch, you can create several objects
 without problem...

 My configuration :
 Pd-0.44.3 () compiled 11:55:24 Apr 29 2013
 Ubuntu 13.04
 Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17
 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 ++

 Jack



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Yep !
To be clear, launching Pd with :
$ optirun pd
works fine.
So Pd/Gem seems to work fine with NVidia and Ubuntu 13.04 (just this X
server crash problem and the other crash with the Gem plug-in VLC on my
side)...
++

Jack



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