Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Miller Puckette
In vanilla at least, -stdpath and -nostdpath simpl turn on and off searching 
in the "extra" directory of Pd.  It takes no argument.

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:26:05PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> hi
> 
> i just figured out, that i don't know how to use [declare -stdpath]. the
> help-file mentions 'relative to Pd', though i cannot figure out, what
> this exactly means. this is on pd-vanilla 0.40.2.
> 
> my pd:
> /usr/local/bin/pd
> 
> and i wanted to load 'iemabs':
> /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemabs/
> 
> therefore i tried:
> [declare -stdpath iemabs] (assuming 'extra' is the standard location)
> [declare -stdpath ../lib/pd/extra/iemabs] (relative to the pd binary)
> [declare -stdpath extra/iemabs]
> 
> all failed. what am i doing wrong?
> 
> roman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
i was talking about [declare -stdpath], not about the command-flag
'-stdpath'. the helpfile of [declare] says:

-stdpathadd search path, relative to the Pd

can you explain, where 'Pd' is meant to be? or is the helpfile wrong and
[declare -stdpath] does the same as the command-flag '-stdpath'?

ciao
roman


On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 12:26 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> In vanilla at least, -stdpath and -nostdpath simpl turn on and off searching 
> in the "extra" directory of Pd.  It takes no argument.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:26:05PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > hi
> > 
> > i just figured out, that i don't know how to use [declare -stdpath]. the
> > help-file mentions 'relative to Pd', though i cannot figure out, what
> > this exactly means. this is on pd-vanilla 0.40.2.
> > 
> > my pd:
> > /usr/local/bin/pd
> > 
> > and i wanted to load 'iemabs':
> > /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemabs/
> > 
> > therefore i tried:
> > [declare -stdpath iemabs] (assuming 'extra' is the standard location)
> > [declare -stdpath ../lib/pd/extra/iemabs] (relative to the pd binary)
> > [declare -stdpath extra/iemabs]
> > 
> > all failed. what am i doing wrong?
> > 
> > roman
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Miller Puckette wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:26:05PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:

i just figured out, that i don't know how to use [declare -stdpath]. the

In vanilla at least, -stdpath and -nostdpath simpl turn on and off searching
in the "extra" directory of Pd.  It takes no argument.


Roman is not even talking about that feature. He's talking about the other 
feature of the same name. It's in a class named [declare]. You added 
[declare] in 0.40. It is implemented by canvas_declare, a function that 
you wrote for 0.40. That feature takes an argument, as you wrote in the 
code:


else if ((argc > i+1) && !strcmp(flag, "-stdpath"))
{
strncpy(strbuf, sys_libdir->s_name, MAXPDSTRING-3);
strbuf[MAXPDSTRING-4] = 0;
strcat(strbuf, "/");
strncpy(strbuf, atom_getsymbolarg(i+1, argc, argv)->s_name,
MAXPDSTRING-strlen(strbuf));
strbuf[MAXPDSTRING-1] = 0;
e->ce_path = namelist_append(e->ce_path, strbuf, 0);
i++;
}

Because atom_getsymbolarg takes an argument, and i++ augments the counter 
so that it points to the beginning of the next option, which is after that 
argument. This is what you wrote.


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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Miller Puckette
Oops, my mistake.

In "declare" systax, "-stdpath" does take an argument... if you give it
foo/bar, for example, the directory searched is .../pd/foo/bar.

My bad for naming it the same as the command-line argument, which does
something different.

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 04:38:31PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Miller Puckette wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:26:05PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> >>i just figured out, that i don't know how to use [declare -stdpath]. the
> >In vanilla at least, -stdpath and -nostdpath simpl turn on and off 
> >searching
> >in the "extra" directory of Pd.  It takes no argument.
> 
> Roman is not even talking about that feature. He's talking about the other 
> feature of the same name. It's in a class named [declare]. You added 
> [declare] in 0.40. It is implemented by canvas_declare, a function that 
> you wrote for 0.40. That feature takes an argument, as you wrote in the 
> code:
> 
> else if ((argc > i+1) && !strcmp(flag, "-stdpath"))
> {
> strncpy(strbuf, sys_libdir->s_name, MAXPDSTRING-3);
> strbuf[MAXPDSTRING-4] = 0;
> strcat(strbuf, "/");
> strncpy(strbuf, atom_getsymbolarg(i+1, argc, argv)->s_name,
> MAXPDSTRING-strlen(strbuf));
> strbuf[MAXPDSTRING-1] = 0;
> e->ce_path = namelist_append(e->ce_path, strbuf, 0);
> i++;
> }
> 
> Because atom_getsymbolarg takes an argument, and i++ augments the counter 
> so that it points to the beginning of the next option, which is after that 
> argument. This is what you wrote.
> 
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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi again

from the help-file i got an idea, how about it is supposed to work, but
i can't get it work. can you make me a working example? did you test
this feature?

here a real-world example (from my first post in this thread):

location of pd:
/usr/local/bin/pd

and i wanted to load [bp2~] from 'iemabs':
/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemabs/

therefore i tried:
[declare -stdpath iemabs] (assuming 'extra' is the standard location)
[declare -stdpath ../lib/pd/extra/iemabs] (relative to the pd binary)
[declare -stdpath extra/iemabs]


for each example, i first saved the patch with the [declared] and
reloaded it and tried to instantiate [bp2~], but it always failed. i
can't imagine, what argument i am supposed to give to [declare
-stdpath].

here is what i get from verbose output:

- [declare -stdpath extra/iemabs]

tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pat and failed
 bp2~
... couldn't create


- [declare -stdpath iemabs]

tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.l_i386 and
failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.pd_linux and
failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386
and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and 
failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.pd and
failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.pat and
failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pat and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pat and failed
 bp2~
... couldn't create


- [declare -stdpath ../lib/pd/extra/iemabs]

tried /home/roman/netpd/../lib/pd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.l_i386 and
failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/netpd/../lib/pd/extra/iemab

Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Miller Puckette
Aha.. it's buggy.  You have to say "declare -stdpath ../extra/iemabs"
(because, by mistake, it's relative to the pd/src directory!).
I think I should fix this (hoping nobody else gets bitten in the opposite
direction)...

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 12:59:22AM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> hi again
> 
> from the help-file i got an idea, how about it is supposed to work, but
> i can't get it work. can you make me a working example? did you test
> this feature?
> 
> here a real-world example (from my first post in this thread):
> 
> location of pd:
> /usr/local/bin/pd
> 
> and i wanted to load [bp2~] from 'iemabs':
> /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemabs/
> 
> therefore i tried:
> [declare -stdpath iemabs] (assuming 'extra' is the standard location)
> [declare -stdpath ../lib/pd/extra/iemabs] (relative to the pd binary)
> [declare -stdpath extra/iemabs]
> 
> 
> for each example, i first saved the patch with the [declared] and
> reloaded it and tried to instantiate [bp2~], but it always failed. i
> can't imagine, what argument i am supposed to give to [declare
> -stdpath].
> 
> here is what i get from verbose output:
> 
> - [declare -stdpath extra/iemabs]
> 
> tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/extra/iemabs/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pat and failed
>  bp2~
> ... couldn't create
> 
> 
> - [declare -stdpath iemabs]
> 
> tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.l_i386 and
> failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.pd_linux and
> failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386
> and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.l_i386 and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and 
> failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~/bp2~.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.pd and
> failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bp2~.pd and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/iemabs/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/5.reference/help-iemmatrix/bp2~.pat and
> failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/abs/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/doc/bp2~.pat and failed
> tried /home/roman/netpd/bp2~.pat and failed
> trie

Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Roman Haefeli

On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 16:18 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Aha.. it's buggy.  You have to say "declare -stdpath ../extra/iemabs"
> (because, by mistake, it's relative to the pd/src directory!).

ah, cool. i am glad to hear, that it is sorted out.

> I think I should fix this (hoping nobody else gets bitten in the opposite
> direction)...

i have the silent impression, that nobody else ever tried this feature
before

roman








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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Jaime Oliver
pdrp has it...

On 8/11/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 16:18 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > Aha.. it's buggy.  You have to say "declare -stdpath ../extra/iemabs"
> > (because, by mistake, it's relative to the pd/src directory!).
>
> ah, cool. i am glad to hear, that it is sorted out.
>
> > I think I should fix this (hoping nobody else gets bitten in the opposite
> > direction)...
>
> i have the silent impression, that nobody else ever tried this feature
> before
>
> roman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-11 Thread Miller Puckette
I think it's got "declare" all over the place, but no "declare -stdpath",
which is the only source of trouble.

cheers
M

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:41:50PM -0700, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> pdrp has it...
> 
> On 8/11/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 16:18 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > > Aha.. it's buggy.  You have to say "declare -stdpath ../extra/iemabs"
> > > (because, by mistake, it's relative to the pd/src directory!).
> >
> > ah, cool. i am glad to hear, that it is sorted out.
> >
> > > I think I should fix this (hoping nobody else gets bitten in the opposite
> > > direction)...
> >
> > i have the silent impression, that nobody else ever tried this feature
> > before
> >
> > roman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I think it would be a good idea to change the name while fixing the  
bug and kill two birds with one stone.

(FYI: there are no changes to the declare stuff in Pd-extended AFAIK).

.hc

On Aug 12, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:

> I think it's got "declare" all over the place, but no "declare - 
> stdpath",
> which is the only source of trouble.
>
> cheers
> M
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> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:41:50PM -0700, Jaime Oliver wrote:
>> pdrp has it...
>>
>> On 8/11/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 16:18 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
 Aha.. it's buggy.  You have to say "declare -stdpath ../extra/ 
 iemabs"
 (because, by mistake, it's relative to the pd/src directory!).
>>>
>>> ah, cool. i am glad to hear, that it is sorted out.
>>>
 I think I should fix this (hoping nobody else gets bitten in the  
 opposite
 direction)...
>>>
>>> i have the silent impression, that nobody else ever tried this  
>>> feature
>>> before
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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 22:23 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> (FYI: there are no changes to the declare stuff in Pd-extended AFAIK).

am i right in thinking, that [declare] is included only in pd >=0.40
extended, but not in 0.39-extended?

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Re: [PD] [declare -stdpath] relative to what?

2007-08-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Aug 14, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 22:23 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>> (FYI: there are no changes to the declare stuff in Pd-extended  
>> AFAIK).
>
> am i right in thinking, that [declare] is included only in pd >=0.40
> extended, but not in 0.39-extended?

That is correct.  An earlier version of [import] is included in  
0.39.3-extended.

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