Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-24 Thread cyrille henry

hello,

this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of externals...
what do you need to install?

Cyrille



saut...@web.de a écrit :

Hallo an alle,

PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.

CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
Where to get and exact name? 


All operation described in tutorial "How to installing externals" 
(http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this specific CVS programm?

Thankx for help on Xmas - with time to check it out.

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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-24 Thread cyrille henry

hello,
no, pd does not look in subfolder.
put your file somwhere,
start pd then file/path/ add your path than save all settings...

what do you mean by converted to pd externals? do you have source that you need 
to compile?

Cyrille


saut...@web.de a écrit :

Hi Cyrille,
I tried to install "wilib". All files from "wiilib" are on my machine, but 
diŽnt work, because it has to be convertet to PD externals.
Do PD also searching in Subfloders, like MAX?

Thanks,
willi






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hello,

this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of externals...
what do you need to install?

Cyrille



saut...@web.de a écrit :

Hallo an alle,

PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.

CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
Where to get and exact name? 


All operation described in tutorial "How to installing externals" 
(http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this specific CVS programm?

Thankx for help on Xmas - with time to check it out.

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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


With Pd-extended, you just need to drop the externals (*.dll on  
Windows, *.pd_linux on GNU/Linux, or *.pd_darwin on Mac OS X) into the  
right folder, then they'll be available.  You don't need to set any  
path.  Here's where:


http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended

.hc

On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:44 AM, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,
no, pd does not look in subfolder.
put your file somwhere,
start pd then file/path/ add your path than save all settings...

what do you mean by converted to pd externals? do you have source  
that you need to compile?


Cyrille


saut...@web.de a écrit :

Hi Cyrille,
I tried to install "wilib". All files from "wiilib" are on my  
machine, but diŽnt work, because it has to be convertet to PD  
externals.

Do PD also searching in Subfloders, like MAX?
Thanks,
willi

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: "cyrille henry" 
Gesendet: 24.12.09 17:12:45
An: saut...@web.de
CC: pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] How to installing externals??
hello,

this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of  
externals...

what do you need to install?

Cyrille



saut...@web.de a écrit :

Hallo an alle,

PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.

CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
Where to get and exact name?
All operation described in tutorial "How to installing  
externals" (http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this  
specific CVS programm?


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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-25 Thread Jaime Oliver
and *.d_fat in osx10.6

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>
> With Pd-extended, you just need to drop the externals (*.dll on Windows,
> *.pd_linux on GNU/Linux, or *.pd_darwin on Mac OS X) into the right folder,
> then they'll be available.  You don't need to set any path.  Here's where:
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended
>
> .hc
>
> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:44 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
>
>> hello,
>> no, pd does not look in subfolder.
>> put your file somwhere,
>> start pd then file/path/ add your path than save all settings...
>>
>> what do you mean by converted to pd externals? do you have source that you
>> need to compile?
>>
>> Cyrille
>>
>>
>> saut...@web.de a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>> I tried to install "wilib". All files from "wiilib" are on my machine,
>>> but diŽnt work, because it has to be convertet to PD externals.
>>> Do PD also searching in Subfloders, like MAX?
>>> Thanks,
>>> willi
>>>>
>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>> Von: "cyrille henry" 
>>>> Gesendet: 24.12.09 17:12:45
>>>> An: saut...@web.de
>>>> CC: pd-list@iem.at
>>>> Betreff: Re: [PD] How to installing externals??
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
>>>> if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of externals...
>>>> what do you need to install?
>>>>
>>>> Cyrille
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> saut...@web.de a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hallo an alle,
>>>>>
>>>>> PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.
>>>>>
>>>>> CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
>>>>> Where to get and exact name?
>>>>> All operation described in tutorial "How to installing externals"
>>>>> (http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this specific CVS
>>>>> programm?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankx for help on Xmas - with time to check it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> willi
>>>>>
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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-25 Thread zmoelnig

Quoting "Jaime Oliver" :


and *.d_fat in osx10.6


since when does Pd-extended load .d_fat externals?

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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-25 Thread jurgen
I apologize for my ignorance but putting externals into the default folder 
under OS X never worked for me, neither under OS X.4 nor OS X.6. I just tried 
it again - copying the additional libs from '/anywhere' on my disk into 
/Library/Pd and taking them off my Preferences/Path  makes them unavailable. I 
assume there is something else that the user needs to do that I am not aware of.
I personally find the fftease stuff very useful, also the pdmtl lib. There are 
also some very nice things by Thomas Grill which are not included in the 
Pd-extended material.

Best
Jurgen
 
On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Jaime Oliver wrote:

> and *.d_fat in osx10.6
> 
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>> 
>> With Pd-extended, you just need to drop the externals (*.dll on Windows,
>> *.pd_linux on GNU/Linux, or *.pd_darwin on Mac OS X) into the right folder,
>> then they'll be available.  You don't need to set any path.  Here's where:
>> 
>> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended
>> 
>> .hc
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:44 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
>> 
>>> hello,
>>> no, pd does not look in subfolder.
>>> put your file somwhere,
>>> start pd then file/path/ add your path than save all settings...
>>> 
>>> what do you mean by converted to pd externals? do you have source that you
>>> need to compile?
>>> 
>>> Cyrille
>>> 
>>> 
>>> saut...@web.de a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>> I tried to install "wilib". All files from "wiilib" are on my machine,
>>>> but diŽnt work, because it has to be convertet to PD externals.
>>>> Do PD also searching in Subfloders, like MAX?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> willi
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>>> Von: "cyrille henry" 
>>>>> Gesendet: 24.12.09 17:12:45
>>>>> An: saut...@web.de
>>>>> CC: pd-list@iem.at
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [PD] How to installing externals??
>>>>> hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
>>>>> if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of externals...
>>>>> what do you need to install?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cyrille
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> saut...@web.de a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hallo an alle,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
>>>>>> Where to get and exact name?
>>>>>> All operation described in tutorial "How to installing externals"
>>>>>> (http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this specific CVS
>>>>>> programm?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thankx for help on Xmas - with time to check it out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> willi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


- Use Pd-extended 0.41.4

- .d_fat should be deprecated, use .pd_darwin for all arches on Mac OS  
X.


.hc

On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:53 AM, jurgen wrote:

I apologize for my ignorance but putting externals into the default  
folder under OS X never worked for me, neither under OS X.4 nor OS X. 
6. I just tried it again - copying the additional libs from '/ 
anywhere' on my disk into /Library/Pd and taking them off my  
Preferences/Path  makes them unavailable. I assume there is  
something else that the user needs to do that I am not aware of.
I personally find the fftease stuff very useful, also the pdmtl lib.  
There are also some very nice things by Thomas Grill which are not  
included in the Pd-extended material.


Best
Jurgen

On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Jaime Oliver wrote:


and *.d_fat in osx10.6

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote:


With Pd-extended, you just need to drop the externals (*.dll on  
Windows,
*.pd_linux on GNU/Linux, or *.pd_darwin on Mac OS X) into the  
right folder,
then they'll be available.  You don't need to set any path.   
Here's where:


http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended

.hc

On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:44 AM, cyrille henry wrote:


hello,
no, pd does not look in subfolder.
put your file somwhere,
start pd then file/path/ add your path than save all settings...

what do you mean by converted to pd externals? do you have source  
that you

need to compile?

Cyrille


saut...@web.de a écrit :


Hi Cyrille,
I tried to install "wilib". All files from "wiilib" are on my  
machine,

but diŽnt work, because it has to be convertet to PD externals.
Do PD also searching in Subfloders, like MAX?
Thanks,
willi


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: "cyrille henry" 
Gesendet: 24.12.09 17:12:45
An: saut...@web.de
CC: pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] How to installing externals??
hello,

this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of  
externals...

what do you need to install?

Cyrille



saut...@web.de a écrit :


Hallo an alle,

PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.

CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
Where to get and exact name?
All operation described in tutorial "How to installing  
externals"
(http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this  
specific CVS

programm?

Thankx for help on Xmas - with time to check it out.

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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-26 Thread zmoelnig

Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" :



- Use Pd-extended 0.41.4


is fftease included with this version, or is this just a general advice?


- .d_fat should be deprecated, use .pd_darwin for all arches on Mac OS X.


or post a feature request to make Pd-extended acknowledge .d_fat, in  
order to stay compatible with Pd-vanilla (or start a flamewar on  
suffixes)


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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-26 Thread sauterw
I have same problem, but tell search path right location it works: 
~Library/Pd/xxx ... because PD is not searching in any subfolder. It would be 
great if it works. I am a guy just coming von MAX/MSP 4.5 and want to hack into 
PD.
Best
willi




 > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "jurgen" 
> Gesendet: 25.12.09 19:56:35
> An: Jaime Oliver 
> CC: PDlist , cyrille henry 
> Betreff: Re: [PD] How to installing externals??


> I apologize for my ignorance but putting externals into the default folder 
> under OS X never worked for me, neither under OS X.4 nor OS X.6. I just tried 
> it again - copying the additional libs from '/anywhere' on my disk into 
> /Library/Pd and taking them off my Preferences/Path  makes them unavailable. 
> I assume there is something else that the user needs to do that I am not 
> aware of.
> I personally find the fftease stuff very useful, also the pdmtl lib. There 
> are also some very nice things by Thomas Grill which are not included in the 
> Pd-extended material.
> 
> Best
> Jurgen
>  
> On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> 
> > and *.d_fat in osx10.6
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> With Pd-extended, you just need to drop the externals (*.dll on Windows,
> >> *.pd_linux on GNU/Linux, or *.pd_darwin on Mac OS X) into the right folder,
> >> then they'll be available.  You don't need to set any path.  Here's where:
> >> 
> >> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended
> >> 
> >> .hc
> >> 
> >> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:44 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
> >> 
> >>> hello,
> >>> no, pd does not look in subfolder.
> >>> put your file somwhere,
> >>> start pd then file/path/ add your path than save all settings...
> >>> 
> >>> what do you mean by converted to pd externals? do you have source that you
> >>> need to compile?
> >>> 
> >>> Cyrille
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> saut...@web.de a écrit :
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Cyrille,
> >>>> I tried to install "wilib". All files from "wiilib" are on my machine,
> >>>> but diŽnt work, because it has to be convertet to PD externals.
> >>>> Do PD also searching in Subfloders, like MAX?
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> willi
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >>>>> Von: "cyrille henry" 
> >>>>> Gesendet: 24.12.09 17:12:45
> >>>>> An: saut...@web.de
> >>>>> CC: pd-list@iem.at
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: [PD] How to installing externals??
> >>>>> hello,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> this page look outdated : cvs is not used anymore.
> >>>>> if you use pd extended, then you'll already have lot's of externals...
> >>>>> what do you need to install?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Cyrille
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> saut...@web.de a écrit :
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hallo an alle,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> PD 41.1 extended on MacOS 1.4.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> CVS client --- not Terminal ...??
> >>>>>> Where to get and exact name?
> >>>>>> All operation described in tutorial "How to installing externals"
> >>>>>> (http://puredata.info/Members/jb/ext-doc#CVS)need this specific CVS
> >>>>>> programm?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thankx for help on Xmas - with time to check it out.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> willi
> >>>>>> 
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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-26 Thread Jaime Oliver
ahhh... extended yes. the subject fooled me. I have my externals in
the extra folder or in a project subfolder with a nice declare object.
J

2009/12/25  :
> Quoting "Jaime Oliver" :
>
>> and *.d_fat in osx10.6
>
> since when does Pd-extended load .d_fat externals?
>
> fmgasdr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Dec 26, 2009, at 3:36 AM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" :



- Use Pd-extended 0.41.4


is fftease included with this version, or is this just a general  
advice?


get it here, as a libdir:
http://puredata.info/Members/hans/FFTeaseBuilds

- .d_fat should be deprecated, use .pd_darwin for all arches on Mac  
OS X.


or post a feature request to make Pd-extended acknowledge .d_fat, in  
order to stay compatible with Pd-vanilla (or start a flamewar on  
suffixes)


Patches welcome.  But if you name externals for Mac OS X as  
*.pd_darwin, they will "just work" everywhere.


.hc



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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-26 Thread jurgen
To me the point is not about file formats but rather simpler about locations in 
OS X. If the .pd_darwin document is actually compiled for the processor one 
uses it will work, no doubt. What I noticed that does not work is the default 
folders mentioned in  the on-line documentation, i.e. for global use in 
'/Library/Pd'. After I read the instructions online I tried it again - when I 
delete the path in the preferences and drop the libs in there they are _not_ 
available any longer (red dotted boxes). Reversing the operation and they're 
back. I noticed this under OS X.4 and under OS X.6 that I'm using now.
My conclusion was that the user needs to do something else when the default 
locations '/Library/Pd' are used that I am not aware of.

Best
Jurgen

On Dec 27, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> On Dec 26, 2009, at 3:36 AM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
> 
>> Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" :
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Use Pd-extended 0.41.4
>> 
>> is fftease included with this version, or is this just a general advice?
> 
> get it here, as a libdir:
> http://puredata.info/Members/hans/FFTeaseBuilds
> 
>>> - .d_fat should be deprecated, use .pd_darwin for all arches on Mac OS X.
>> 
>> or post a feature request to make Pd-extended acknowledge .d_fat, in order 
>> to stay compatible with Pd-vanilla (or start a flamewar on suffixes)
> 
> Patches welcome.  But if you name externals for Mac OS X as *.pd_darwin, they 
> will "just work" everywhere.
> 
> .hc
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Re: [PD] How to installing externals??

2009-12-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


With Pd-extended 0.41.4 and later on Mac OS X, putting libs, objects,  
and help patches into /Library/Pd  should just work.  It has  
everywhere I have tested it.  Please file a bug report with as much  
detail as possible if it is not working for you.


.hc

On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:21 PM, jurgen wrote:

To me the point is not about file formats but rather simpler about  
locations in OS X. If the .pd_darwin document is actually compiled  
for the processor one uses it will work, no doubt. What I noticed  
that does not work is the default folders mentioned in  the on-line  
documentation, i.e. for global use in '/Library/Pd'. After I read  
the instructions online I tried it again - when I delete the path in  
the preferences and drop the libs in there they are _not_ available  
any longer (red dotted boxes). Reversing the operation and they're  
back. I noticed this under OS X.4 and under OS X.6 that I'm using now.
My conclusion was that the user needs to do something else when the  
default locations '/Library/Pd' are used that I am not aware of.


Best
Jurgen

On Dec 27, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



On Dec 26, 2009, at 3:36 AM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" :



- Use Pd-extended 0.41.4


is fftease included with this version, or is this just a general  
advice?


get it here, as a libdir:
http://puredata.info/Members/hans/FFTeaseBuilds

- .d_fat should be deprecated, use .pd_darwin for all arches on  
Mac OS X.


or post a feature request to make Pd-extended acknowledge .d_fat,  
in order to stay compatible with Pd-vanilla (or start a flamewar  
on suffixes)


Patches welcome.  But if you name externals for Mac OS X as  
*.pd_darwin, they will "just work" everywhere.


.hc



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IOhannes




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