Re: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac OSX?

[Santiago J. Barro Torres]

Hi Alexandros,

Yes, that works fine! That was what I was looking for.

I thank you all for your help.


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:

> Set the number of channels in the Audio Settings and then use [adc~ 1 2]
> for the first two channels, [adc~ 3 4] for the other two etc. Whatever
> number you set as an argument to [adc~] will be the sound card's channel
> number, starting from one, but you first have to set that in the audio
> settings.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Santiago J. Barro Torres <
> santiagoba...@santiagobarro.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Miller and Daniel,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your answers. But I am not sure if we are talking about the
>> same thing.
>>
>> What is the relationship with the i.e. selected "input device" and the
>> object [adc~]? I guess that there is a mapping between the "outside
>> world" (either a physical sound card or a sound server) and Pure Data.
>>
>> Let's put a simple example with a single input device as single sound
>> card. Let's think that this sound card has lots of channels (i.e. 64
>> input/output channels). Is it (somehow) possible to have two [adc~]
>> objects (let's name them [adc0~] and [adc1~] for sake of simplicity)?
>> And say, that i.e. [adc0~] corresponds to sound-card0-channels-0-and-1
>> and [adc1~] to sound-card0-channels-2-3? (channels starting on 0).
>>
>> Sorry if this is a very simple question, but most Pure Data patches I
>> have seen deal just with single input / output and can't figure out how can
>> I work with more entities. And in order to make this question clear, we can
>> assume we only work with one sound card with lots of channels. And all
>> this, under Mac OSX.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Daniel Nigrin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For OS X, use "Aggregate Devices."
>>>
>>> Go to Audio MIDI Setup, click the little "+" in the lower left corner,
>>> and select Create Aggregate Device.  This will allow you to group your
>>> various input and output devices, and have them presented to whatever
>>> software as a "single" device.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Dan
>>> --
>>> Dan Nigrin / Defective Records / http://defectiverecords.com
>>> CycliC, M185 & Klee Sequencers / MC-4 & MC-202 Hack / Audio Plugin
>>> Player / General MIDI Player / Major Malfunction
>>> Jack OS X / http://jackosx.com
>>>
>>> From: "Santiago J. Barro Torres" 
>>> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:57 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on
>>> Mac OSX?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello everybody,
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is Santiago, and I am an embedded software engineer. I have been
>>> playing around Pure Data for some time, and now I would like to further
>>> develop my skills on Music Design // Music Programming.
>>>
>>> I am working with three versions of pd: Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
>>> Currently, I am having a look at how to use several [adc~] and [dac~]
>>> (several input/output devices). In particularly I am doing some experiments
>>> using several external USB/FireWire sound cards.
>>>
>>> So my question is if somebody knows if this feature (using multiple
>>> devices) is available on Mac OSX. I have been configuring it on a Windows
>>> machine (under Media > Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices), where I can
>>> select i.e. three input devices and two output devices. This button (Use
>>> Multiple Devices) doesn't seem to appear in the Mac OSX version of Pure
>>> Data, despite of several input/output devices being available!
>>>
>>> I have found some old threads dealing with this topic, but it doesn't
>>> seem to be a clear answer. Why is this option available in Windows and not
>>> in Mac OSX?
>>>
>>> I have done some research by myself and get this thing working, but
>>> without luck. If somebody here comes up with a good answer, I will be very
>>> grateful. So I thank you all for your time.
>>>
>>> Software Versions: I am using an "old" Intel Mac OS X 10.6.8 32-bit, and
>>> tried with pd vanilla (0.45.4, last version) and pd-extended (0.43.4, last
>>> version).
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>> Embedded Software Engineer
>> Test Automation and Management
>>
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>> Handy: (+49) 16 23 85 6767
>> santiagoba...@santiagobarro.com
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Re: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac OSX?

[Alexandros Drymonitis]

Set the number of channels in the Audio Settings and then use [adc~ 1 2]
for the first two channels, [adc~ 3 4] for the other two etc. Whatever
number you set as an argument to [adc~] will be the sound card's channel
number, starting from one, but you first have to set that in the audio
settings.


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Santiago J. Barro Torres <
santiagoba...@santiagobarro.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Miller and Daniel,
>
>
> Thanks for your answers. But I am not sure if we are talking about the
> same thing.
>
> What is the relationship with the i.e. selected "input device" and the
> object [adc~]? I guess that there is a mapping between the "outside
> world" (either a physical sound card or a sound server) and Pure Data.
>
> Let's put a simple example with a single input device as single sound
> card. Let's think that this sound card has lots of channels (i.e. 64
> input/output channels). Is it (somehow) possible to have two [adc~]
> objects (let's name them [adc0~] and [adc1~] for sake of simplicity)? And
> say, that i.e. [adc0~] corresponds to sound-card0-channels-0-and-1 and [adc1~]
> to sound-card0-channels-2-3? (channels starting on 0).
>
> Sorry if this is a very simple question, but most Pure Data patches I have
> seen deal just with single input / output and can't figure out how can I
> work with more entities. And in order to make this question clear, we can
> assume we only work with one sound card with lots of channels. And all
> this, under Mac OSX.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Daniel Nigrin 
> wrote:
>
>> For OS X, use "Aggregate Devices."
>>
>> Go to Audio MIDI Setup, click the little "+" in the lower left corner,
>> and select Create Aggregate Device.  This will allow you to group your
>> various input and output devices, and have them presented to whatever
>> software as a "single" device.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Dan
>> --
>> Dan Nigrin / Defective Records / http://defectiverecords.com
>> CycliC, M185 & Klee Sequencers / MC-4 & MC-202 Hack / Audio Plugin Player
>> / General MIDI Player / Major Malfunction
>> Jack OS X / http://jackosx.com
>>
>> From: "Santiago J. Barro Torres" 
>> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:57 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on
>> Mac OSX?
>>
>>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>>
>> My name is Santiago, and I am an embedded software engineer. I have been
>> playing around Pure Data for some time, and now I would like to further
>> develop my skills on Music Design // Music Programming.
>>
>> I am working with three versions of pd: Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
>> Currently, I am having a look at how to use several [adc~] and [dac~]
>> (several input/output devices). In particularly I am doing some experiments
>> using several external USB/FireWire sound cards.
>>
>> So my question is if somebody knows if this feature (using multiple
>> devices) is available on Mac OSX. I have been configuring it on a Windows
>> machine (under Media > Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices), where I can
>> select i.e. three input devices and two output devices. This button (Use
>> Multiple Devices) doesn't seem to appear in the Mac OSX version of Pure
>> Data, despite of several input/output devices being available!
>>
>> I have found some old threads dealing with this topic, but it doesn't
>> seem to be a clear answer. Why is this option available in Windows and not
>> in Mac OSX?
>>
>> I have done some research by myself and get this thing working, but
>> without luck. If somebody here comes up with a good answer, I will be very
>> grateful. So I thank you all for your time.
>>
>> Software Versions: I am using an "old" Intel Mac OS X 10.6.8 32-bit, and
>> tried with pd vanilla (0.45.4, last version) and pd-extended (0.43.4, last
>> version).
>>
>>
>>
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> Test Automation and Management
>
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Re: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac OSX?

[Santiago J. Barro Torres]

Hi Miller and Daniel,


Thanks for your answers. But I am not sure if we are talking about the same
thing.

What is the relationship with the i.e. selected "input device" and the
object [adc~]? I guess that there is a mapping between the "outside world"
(either a physical sound card or a sound server) and Pure Data.

Let's put a simple example with a single input device as single sound card.
Let's think that this sound card has lots of channels (i.e. 64 input/output
channels). Is it (somehow) possible to have two [adc~] objects (let's name
them [adc0~] and [adc1~] for sake of simplicity)? And say, that i.e. [adc0~]
corresponds to sound-card0-channels-0-and-1 and [adc1~] to
sound-card0-channels-2-3? (channels starting on 0).

Sorry if this is a very simple question, but most Pure Data patches I have
seen deal just with single input / output and can't figure out how can I
work with more entities. And in order to make this question clear, we can
assume we only work with one sound card with lots of channels. And all
this, under Mac OSX.

Thanks!


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Daniel Nigrin wrote:

> For OS X, use "Aggregate Devices."
>
> Go to Audio MIDI Setup, click the little "+" in the lower left corner, and
> select Create Aggregate Device.  This will allow you to group your various
> input and output devices, and have them presented to whatever software as a
> "single" device.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Dan
> --
> Dan Nigrin / Defective Records / http://defectiverecords.com
> CycliC, M185 & Klee Sequencers / MC-4 & MC-202 Hack / Audio Plugin Player
> / General MIDI Player / Major Malfunction
> Jack OS X / http://jackosx.com
>
> From: "Santiago J. Barro Torres" 
> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:57 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac
> OSX?
>
>
> Hello everybody,
>
>
> My name is Santiago, and I am an embedded software engineer. I have been
> playing around Pure Data for some time, and now I would like to further
> develop my skills on Music Design // Music Programming.
>
> I am working with three versions of pd: Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
> Currently, I am having a look at how to use several [adc~] and [dac~]
> (several input/output devices). In particularly I am doing some experiments
> using several external USB/FireWire sound cards.
>
> So my question is if somebody knows if this feature (using multiple
> devices) is available on Mac OSX. I have been configuring it on a Windows
> machine (under Media > Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices), where I can
> select i.e. three input devices and two output devices. This button (Use
> Multiple Devices) doesn't seem to appear in the Mac OSX version of Pure
> Data, despite of several input/output devices being available!
>
> I have found some old threads dealing with this topic, but it doesn't seem
> to be a clear answer. Why is this option available in Windows and not in
> Mac OSX?
>
> I have done some research by myself and get this thing working, but
> without luck. If somebody here comes up with a good answer, I will be very
> grateful. So I thank you all for your time.
>
> Software Versions: I am using an "old" Intel Mac OS X 10.6.8 32-bit, and
> tried with pd vanilla (0.45.4, last version) and pd-extended (0.43.4, last
> version).
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac OSX?

[Daniel Nigrin]

For OS X, use "Aggregate Devices."

Go to Audio MIDI Setup, click the little "+" in the lower left corner, and
select Create Aggregate Device.  This will allow you to group your various
input and output devices, and have them presented to whatever software as a
"single" device.

Hope that helps,
Dan
--
Dan Nigrin / Defective Records / http://defectiverecords.com

CycliC, M185 & Klee Sequencers / MC-4 & MC-202 Hack / Audio Plugin Player /
General MIDI Player / Major Malfunction
Jack OS X / http://jackosx.com 

From:  "Santiago J. Barro Torres" 
Date:  Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:57 PM
To:  
Subject:  [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac
OSX?


Hello everybody,


My name is Santiago, and I am an embedded software engineer. I have been
playing around Pure Data for some time, and now I would like to further
develop my skills on Music Design // Music Programming.

I am working with three versions of pd: Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
Currently, I am having a look at how to use several [adc~] and [dac~]
(several input/output devices). In particularly I am doing some experiments
using several external USB/FireWire sound cards.

So my question is if somebody knows if this feature (using multiple devices)
is available on Mac OSX. I have been configuring it on a Windows machine
(under Media > Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices), where I can select
i.e. three input devices and two output devices. This button (Use Multiple
Devices) doesn't seem to appear in the Mac OSX version of Pure Data, despite
of several input/output devices being available!

I have found some old threads dealing with this topic, but it doesn't seem
to be a clear answer. Why is this option available in Windows and not in Mac
OSX?

I have done some research by myself and get this thing working, but without
luck. If somebody here comes up with a good answer, I will be very grateful.
So I thank you all for your time.

Software Versions: I am using an "old" Intel Mac OS X 10.6.8 32-bit, and
tried with pd vanilla (0.45.4, last version) and pd-extended (0.43.4, last
version).



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Re: [PD] Is "Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices" available on Mac OSX?

[Miller Puckette]

Hi Santiago -

Pd uses Portaudio to talk to CoreAudio.  It loks like there's no reason one
couldn't fix the code to offer multiple devices (although it still wouldn't
work for Portaudio/ASIO because ASIO apparently doesn't permit it).

One reason I haven't done that is that Soundflower (if I understand correctly)
does a decent job of it, probably better than I would be able to do, so
I don't see an urgent need.  (Also, allowing multiple devices complicates
the code and can easily introduce problems; I've spent a lot of time fiddling
with multiple-device support in ALSA and MMIO and have come to feel that it's
an endless time sink.)

cheers
Miller

2002 when multiple devices weren't allowed (as far as I know).  Since

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 07:57:01PM +0100, Santiago J. Barro Torres wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> 
> My name is Santiago, and I am an embedded software engineer. I have been
> playing around Pure Data for some time, and now I would like to further
> develop my skills on Music Design // Music Programming.
> 
> I am working with three versions of pd: Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
> Currently, I am having a look at how to use several [adc~] and [dac~]
> (several input/output devices). In particularly I am doing some experiments
> using several external USB/FireWire sound cards.
> 
> So my question is if somebody knows if this feature (using multiple
> devices) is available on Mac OSX. I have been configuring it on a Windows
> machine (under Media > Audio Settings > Use Multiple Devices), where I can
> select i.e. three input devices and two output devices. This button (Use
> Multiple Devices) doesn't seem to appear in the Mac OSX version of Pure
> Data, despite of several input/output devices being available!
> 
> I have found some old threads dealing with this topic, but it doesn't seem
> to be a clear answer. Why is this option available in Windows and not in
> Mac OSX?
> 
> I have done some research by myself and get this thing working, but without
> luck. If somebody here comes up with a good answer, I will be very
> grateful. So I thank you all for your time.
> 
> Software Versions: I am using an "old" Intel Mac OS X 10.6.8 32-bit, and
> tried with pd vanilla (0.45.4, last version) and pd-extended (0.43.4, last
> version).

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