Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-07 Thread Stefan Thomas
I've installed l2ork, that solved the problem.

2012/7/6 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 Is this with pd, pd-extended, or pd-l2ork or all of them? What solved your
 problem?
 On Jul 6, 2012 7:22 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I can hear sound from jack and alsa, I didn't try oss yet.
 Everything seems to work well, at least the test audio and midi-patch.
 I'm going to try some examples from the floss manual, in the next few
 days, hopefully.

 2012/7/6 Matthias Blau bla...@web.de

 Hi Stefan,

 do you have sound output otherwise?

 One problem I encountered when switching to 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 was that
 OSS didn't seem to work properly. Additionally, OSS seemed to blacklist the
 alsa drivers such that I ended up having no sound at all.

 Manually loading the alsa drivers and, eventually, removing all
 oss-related packages solved the problem.

 Best wishes,
 Matthias


 On 07/03/2012 05:51 PM, Stefan Thomas wrote:

 Dear community,
 I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64 bit)
 from the repositorys.
 Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
 First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue Media I choose
 Jack.
 In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected.
 When I know click Media, test audio and midi unfortunately nothing
 happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not.
 I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it.
 Am I missing something very simple?
 Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.




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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-06 Thread Matthias Blau

Hi Stefan,

do you have sound output otherwise?

One problem I encountered when switching to 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 was that 
OSS didn't seem to work properly. Additionally, OSS seemed to blacklist 
the alsa drivers such that I ended up having no sound at all.


Manually loading the alsa drivers and, eventually, removing all 
oss-related packages solved the problem.


Best wishes,
Matthias

On 07/03/2012 05:51 PM, Stefan Thomas wrote:

Dear community,
I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64 bit)
from the repositorys.
Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue Media I choose
Jack.
In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected.
When I know click Media, test audio and midi unfortunately nothing
happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not.
I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it.
Am I missing something very simple?
Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.




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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-06 Thread Stefan Thomas
I can hear sound from jack and alsa, I didn't try oss yet.
Everything seems to work well, at least the test audio and midi-patch.
I'm going to try some examples from the floss manual, in the next few days,
hopefully.

2012/7/6 Matthias Blau bla...@web.de

 Hi Stefan,

 do you have sound output otherwise?

 One problem I encountered when switching to 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 was that
 OSS didn't seem to work properly. Additionally, OSS seemed to blacklist the
 alsa drivers such that I ended up having no sound at all.

 Manually loading the alsa drivers and, eventually, removing all
 oss-related packages solved the problem.

 Best wishes,
 Matthias


 On 07/03/2012 05:51 PM, Stefan Thomas wrote:

 Dear community,
 I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64 bit)
 from the repositorys.
 Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
 First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue Media I choose
 Jack.
 In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected.
 When I know click Media, test audio and midi unfortunately nothing
 happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not.
 I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it.
 Am I missing something very simple?
 Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.




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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-05 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Kaj,
thanks for Your help.
I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and
pd, from the ubuntu repositorys.
But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound.
I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables.
But I can't hear any sound!
I don't have the option compute audio.
When I click DSP, nothing happens.
Shall I install a newer or older version from source?

2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me

 On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Iain,
  I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same.
  One problem might be:
  When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be
  reinstalled to.
  But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related
  to my version of PD.
  It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this
  site:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041
 

 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release.

 I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if
 everything works.

 Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is
 preferred for that.
 Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install
 linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime
 privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio).

 To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things.

 First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency

 Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing
 jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is
 not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do
 this in a terminal:
 sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they
 should be by default):

 @audio   -  rtprio 95
 @audio   -  memlockunlimited

 If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 ..and add the two lines above.

 The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod -a
 -G audio $USER

 Then, reboot.

 Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack
 handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal
 data latency.
 Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and around
 5-10 ms in pd jack settings.


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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-05 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Ivica,
I did as You suggested.
Make install installed a file pd in  /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork
There I've executed ./pd but I've got

sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/bin/pd-gui: not found

What has been my mistake?
2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 You don't need any. Just install the burrito supreme binary version by
 running sudo make install inside the folder (or sudo make uninstall to
 remove). You will need to install tkpng lib though by doing sudo apt-get
 install tkpng.

 Cheers!
 On Jul 5, 2012 12:04 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I coulnd't find debian packages on their site!

 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 FWIW You can try pd-l2ork. Those were built on Ubuntu.

 Best wishes,

 Ico
 On Jul 5, 2012 11:44 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Kaj,
 thanks for Your help.
 I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl
 and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys.
 But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound.
 I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables.
 But I can't hear any sound!
 I don't have the option compute audio.
 When I click DSP, nothing happens.
 Shall I install a newer or older version from source?

 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me

 On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Iain,
  I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same.
  One problem might be:
  When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be
  reinstalled to.
  But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug,
 related
  to my version of PD.
  It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this
  site:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041
 

 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release.

 I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if
 everything works.

 Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is
 preferred for that.
 Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install
 linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime
 privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio).

 To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things.

 First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency

 Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing
 jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is
 not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do
 this in a terminal:
 sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they
 should be by default):

 @audio   -  rtprio 95
 @audio   -  memlockunlimited

 If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 ..and add the two lines above.

 The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod
 -a
 -G audio $USER

 Then, reboot.

 Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack
 handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal
 data latency.
 Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and
 around
 5-10 ms in pd jack settings.


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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-05 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 19:19 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 17:42 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Kaj,
  thanks for Your help.
  I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and
  pd, from the ubuntu repositorys.
  But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound.
  I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables.
  But I can't hear any sound!
  I don't have the option compute audio.
  When I click DSP, nothing happens.
  Shall I install a newer or older version from source?
  

Sorry, this was supposed to go to the list..

 
 As for alsa, I am a bit reluctant to say too much, cause I don't know
 how that works with pulseaudio.
 But, the example should work fine, given you have started jack and
 configured pd to use jack, as well as made sure they are connected.
 
 If you have multiple audio devices (hdmi is an audio device also), you
 need to make sure the right device is selected in qjackctl - Setup -
 Interface.
 Other settings are fine as they are. 
 
 After starting pd, choose from the menu: Media - jack.
 Make sure input and output are toggled on, and that you have set the
 number of channels (2 is fine).
 Click Ok.
 
 Then, go to qjackctl - Connect. If there are no wires between pd and
 system, then select pd at one side, and system at one side, and hit
 connect. This will enable audio out. system-pd will enable audio in.
 You can expand the inputs and outputs with the little arrows next to the
 devices to see how many inputs outputs each contains.
 
 That should be it.
 


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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-05 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Start it from any folder by typing pd-l2ork, not pd.
On Jul 5, 2012 4:08 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Ivica,
 I did as You suggested.
 Make install installed a file pd in  /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork
 There I've executed ./pd but I've got

 sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/bin/pd-gui: not found

 What has been my mistake?
 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 You don't need any. Just install the burrito supreme binary version by
 running sudo make install inside the folder (or sudo make uninstall to
 remove). You will need to install tkpng lib though by doing sudo apt-get
 install tkpng.

 Cheers!
 On Jul 5, 2012 12:04 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I coulnd't find debian packages on their site!

 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 FWIW You can try pd-l2ork. Those were built on Ubuntu.

 Best wishes,

 Ico
 On Jul 5, 2012 11:44 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Kaj,
 thanks for Your help.
 I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled
 qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys.
 But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound.
 I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables.
 But I can't hear any sound!
 I don't have the option compute audio.
 When I click DSP, nothing happens.
 Shall I install a newer or older version from source?

 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me

 On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Iain,
  I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same.
  One problem might be:
  When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be
  reinstalled to.
  But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug,
 related
  to my version of PD.
  It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this
  site:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041
 

 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release.

 I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if
 everything works.

 Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack
 is
 preferred for that.
 Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install
 linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up
 realtime
 privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio).

 To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things.

 First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency

 Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing
 jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 is
 not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do
 this in a terminal:
 sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they
 should be by default):

 @audio   -  rtprio 95
 @audio   -  memlockunlimited

 If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 ..and add the two lines above.

 The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod
 -a
 -G audio $USER

 Then, reboot.

 Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack
 handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its'
 internal
 data latency.
 Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and
 around
 5-10 ms in pd jack settings.


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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-05 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Ivica,
thanks, I did as You suggested and it look at it could work.
But I will try it in deep tomorrow, it's a bit late now!

2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 Start it from any folder by typing pd-l2ork, not pd.
 On Jul 5, 2012 4:08 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Ivica,
 I did as You suggested.
 Make install installed a file pd in  /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork
 There I've executed ./pd but I've got

 sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/bin/pd-gui: not found

 What has been my mistake?
 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 You don't need any. Just install the burrito supreme binary version by
 running sudo make install inside the folder (or sudo make uninstall to
 remove). You will need to install tkpng lib though by doing sudo apt-get
 install tkpng.

 Cheers!
 On Jul 5, 2012 12:04 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I coulnd't find debian packages on their site!

 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu

 FWIW You can try pd-l2ork. Those were built on Ubuntu.

 Best wishes,

 Ico
 On Jul 5, 2012 11:44 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Kaj,
 thanks for Your help.
 I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled
 qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys.
 But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound.
 I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables.
 But I can't hear any sound!
 I don't have the option compute audio.
 When I click DSP, nothing happens.
 Shall I install a newer or older version from source?

 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me

 On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Iain,
  I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same.
  One problem might be:
  When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be
  reinstalled to.
  But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug,
 related
  to my version of PD.
  It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this
  site:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041
 

 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release.

 I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if
 everything works.

 Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack
 is
 preferred for that.
 Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install
 linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up
 realtime
 privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio).

 To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things.

 First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install
 linux-lowlatency

 Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing
 jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 is
 not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it,
 do
 this in a terminal:
 sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they
 should be by default):

 @audio   -  rtprio 95
 @audio   -  memlockunlimited

 If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 ..and add the two lines above.

 The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo
 usermod -a
 -G audio $USER

 Then, reboot.

 Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack
 handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its'
 internal
 data latency.
 Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and
 around
 5-10 ms in pd jack settings.


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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-05 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hi Stefan,


On 05.07.2012 17:42, Stefan Thomas wrote:
 Dear Kaj,
 thanks for Your help.
 I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and
 pd, from the ubuntu repositorys.
 But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound.
 I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables.
 But I can't hear any sound!
 I don't have the option compute audio.
 When I click DSP, nothing happens.
 Shall I install a newer or older version from source?

does any other Jack enabled application produce any sound? You could try
something like amsynth, qsynth or hydrogen just to test, if it is
problem with Pd or your Jack configuration.

Best regards,
Thomas
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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-04 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Iain,
I guess that You mean with all of them the other pd-related packages, not
jack. Am I right?
I will try it soon.

2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com

 Hi Stefan - i would try de-installing all of them, then install only
 puredata - and try that audio test i suggested. See what happens then.
 good luck, iain



 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 22:12 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Iain,
  I've installed it with synaptic (sudo synaptic).
  There I've choosen the packages puredata, pd-csound, puredata-gui,
  puredata-extra and some others.
  Maybee I should mention that there's version puredata-core 0.43.0-4 on
  my system installed.
 
  2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com
  Hi Stefan - how did you go about installing Pd? Was it via the
  Ubuntu
  Software Centre or from a website? Describe the steps you
  took. Seems
  like there is something wrong with your installation.
  iain
 
 
  On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:05 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
   Dear Ian,
   thanks for Your help!
   I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got:
   was... 1
   priority 6 scheduling enabled.
   priority 8 scheduling enabled.
  
  open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such
   file or directory
   testtone.pd: No such file or directory
   Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory
  called
   7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file
  testtone.pd!
  
   2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com
   Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that
  qjackctl
   is
   actually started and running properly (you can click
  on the
   Messages
   button to see if something is wrong), then when you
  launch Pd
   from a
   terminal, make sure you have included the -jack
  flag in the
   command
   line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you
  copy the
   command
   line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also
  any print
   out from
   the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong.
  
   What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the
  Test
   audio and
   MIDI patch? In my version of Pd this can be found
  under the
   Media
   menu.
  
   Cheers, Iain
  
   On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas
  wrote:
Dear community,
I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu
  12.04
   machine (64
bit) from the repositorys.
Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the
  menue
   Media I choose
Jack.
In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata
  are
   connected.
When I know click Media, test audio and midi
   unfortunately nothing
happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is
  choosen or not.
I can also open some patches, but I dont know how
  to get
   sound of it.
Am I missing something very simple?
Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.
   
   
   
  
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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-04 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Iain,
I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same.
One problem might be:
When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be
reinstalled to.
But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to
my version of PD.
It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this site:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041

2012/7/4 Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com

 Dear Iain,
 I guess that You mean with all of them the other pd-related packages,
 not jack. Am I right?
 I will try it soon.


 2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com

 Hi Stefan - i would try de-installing all of them, then install only
 puredata - and try that audio test i suggested. See what happens then.
 good luck, iain



 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 22:12 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear Iain,
  I've installed it with synaptic (sudo synaptic).
  There I've choosen the packages puredata, pd-csound, puredata-gui,
  puredata-extra and some others.
  Maybee I should mention that there's version puredata-core 0.43.0-4 on
  my system installed.
 
  2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com
  Hi Stefan - how did you go about installing Pd? Was it via the
  Ubuntu
  Software Centre or from a website? Describe the steps you
  took. Seems
  like there is something wrong with your installation.
  iain
 
 
  On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:05 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
   Dear Ian,
   thanks for Your help!
   I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got:
   was... 1
   priority 6 scheduling enabled.
   priority 8 scheduling enabled.
  
  open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such
   file or directory
   testtone.pd: No such file or directory
   Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory
  called
   7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file
  testtone.pd!
  
   2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com
   Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that
  qjackctl
   is
   actually started and running properly (you can click
  on the
   Messages
   button to see if something is wrong), then when you
  launch Pd
   from a
   terminal, make sure you have included the -jack
  flag in the
   command
   line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you
  copy the
   command
   line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also
  any print
   out from
   the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong.
  
   What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the
  Test
   audio and
   MIDI patch? In my version of Pd this can be found
  under the
   Media
   menu.
  
   Cheers, Iain
  
   On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas
  wrote:
Dear community,
I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu
  12.04
   machine (64
bit) from the repositorys.
Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the
  menue
   Media I choose
Jack.
In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata
  are
   connected.
When I know click Media, test audio and midi
   unfortunately nothing
happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is
  choosen or not.
I can also open some patches, but I dont know how
  to get
   sound of it.
Am I missing something very simple?
Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.
   
   
   
  
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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-04 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
 Dear Iain,
 I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same.
 One problem might be:
 When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be
 reinstalled to.
 But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related
 to my version of PD.
 It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this
 site:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041
 

Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release. 

I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if
everything works.

Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is
preferred for that. 
Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install
linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime
privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio).

To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things.

First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency

Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing
jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is
not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do
this in a terminal:
sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled
/etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they
should be by default):

@audio   -  rtprio 95
@audio   -  memlockunlimited

If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano
/etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
..and add the two lines above.

The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod -a
-G audio $USER

Then, reboot.

Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack
handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal
data latency.
Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and around
5-10 ms in pd jack settings.


|
  kaj.ailo...@mousike.me
 -|
#N canvas 580 461 726 423 10;
#X obj 317 316 dac~;
#X obj 326 70 osc~ 440;
#X obj 326 101 *~ 0.5;
#X obj 327 221 *~;
#X msg 374 184 \$1 20;
#X obj 437 155 tgl 15 0 empty empty toggle_audio_out 17 7 0 10 -262144
-1 -1 0 1;
#X obj 374 206 line~;
#X obj 134 135 env~ 8192;
#X floatatom 134 172 5 0 0 0 signal - -;
#X text 350 319 this is the puredata output;
#X text 383 71 simple sinus in 440 Hz;
#X text 36 194 will show activity \, when you turn on dsp;
#X msg 80 55 \; pd dsp 1;
#X msg 141 55 \; pd dsp 0;
#X text 84 36 toggle dsp;
#X obj 246 273 env~ 8192;
#X floatatom 246 310 5 0 0 0 signal_out - -;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 7 0;
#X connect 3 0 0 0;
#X connect 3 0 0 1;
#X connect 3 0 15 0;
#X connect 4 0 6 0;
#X connect 5 0 4 0;
#X connect 6 0 3 1;
#X connect 7 0 8 0;
#X connect 15 0 16 0;
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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-03 Thread Iain Mott
Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that qjackctl is
actually started and running properly (you can click on the Messages
button to see if something is wrong), then when you launch Pd from a
terminal, make sure you have included the -jack flag in the command
line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you copy the command
line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also any print out from
the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong.

What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the Test audio and
MIDI patch? In my version of Pd this can be found under the Media
menu.

Cheers, Iain

On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
 Dear community,
 I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64
 bit) from the repositorys.
 Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
 First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue Media I choose
 Jack.
 In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected.
 When I know click Media, test audio and midi unfortunately nothing
 happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not.
 I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it.
 Am I missing something very simple? 
 Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-03 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Ian,
thanks for Your help!
I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got:

 was... 1
 priority 6 scheduling enabled.
 priority 8 scheduling enabled.
 open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such file or
 directory
 testtone.pd: No such file or directory

Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory called
7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file testtone.pd!

2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com

 Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that qjackctl is
 actually started and running properly (you can click on the Messages
 button to see if something is wrong), then when you launch Pd from a
 terminal, make sure you have included the -jack flag in the command
 line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you copy the command
 line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also any print out from
 the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong.

 What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the Test audio and
 MIDI patch? In my version of Pd this can be found under the Media
 menu.

 Cheers, Iain

 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear community,
  I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64
  bit) from the repositorys.
  Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
  First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue Media I choose
  Jack.
  In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected.
  When I know click Media, test audio and midi unfortunately nothing
  happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not.
  I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it.
  Am I missing something very simple?
  Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-03 Thread Iain Mott
Hi Stefan - how did you go about installing Pd? Was it via the Ubuntu
Software Centre or from a website? Describe the steps you took. Seems
like there is something wrong with your installation.
iain


On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:05 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
 Dear Ian,
 thanks for Your help!
 I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got:
 was... 1
 priority 6 scheduling enabled.
 priority 8 scheduling enabled.
 open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such
 file or directory
 testtone.pd: No such file or directory
 Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory called
 7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file testtone.pd!
 
 2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com
 Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that qjackctl
 is
 actually started and running properly (you can click on the
 Messages
 button to see if something is wrong), then when you launch Pd
 from a
 terminal, make sure you have included the -jack flag in the
 command
 line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you copy the
 command
 line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also any print
 out from
 the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong.
 
 What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the Test
 audio and
 MIDI patch? In my version of Pd this can be found under the
 Media
 menu.
 
 Cheers, Iain
 
 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote:
  Dear community,
  I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04
 machine (64
  bit) from the repositorys.
  Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it.
  First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue
 Media I choose
  Jack.
  In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are
 connected.
  When I know click Media, test audio and midi
 unfortunately nothing
  happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not.
  I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get
 sound of it.
  Am I missing something very simple?
  Sorry, but I can't find my mistake.
 
 
 
 
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