Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Max
the horizontal alignment?


Am 14.02.2011 um 22:32 schrieb Morgan Packard:

 In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets 
 in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing the 
 subpatch?
 
 I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and 
 on google didn't turn anything up. 
 
 thanks,
 
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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks.
Can we take the question mark out of that?
:)
-m-

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:

 the horizontal alignment?


 Am 14.02.2011 um 22:32 schrieb Morgan Packard:

  In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which
 inlets/outlets in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch
 representing the subpatch?
 
  I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs
 and on google didn't turn anything up.
 
  thanks,
 
  -Morgan
 
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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread tim vets
2011/2/14 Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com

 In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which
 inlets/outlets in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch
 representing the subpatch?


The placement of your [inlet]'s on your subpatch's canvas from left to right
corresponds to the inlets shown in the parent patch from left to right.
gr,
Tim


 I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and
 on google didn't turn anything up.

 thanks,

 -Morgan

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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])
 
Also in:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7
 
Trivia:
If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a canvas, 
the order in 
which they were created (from most recent to least recent) corresponds to 
the left-to-right 
order of the subpatch's inlets on the parent patch.  In other words: if you 
have: 
[inlet]
[inlet]
 
There's no way to tell by looking what the ordering is.  So, obviously, don't 
do that, but 
also keep in mind that it's a good idea in general to keep all [inlet] objects 
in a horizontal row so one can quickly grasp their left-to-right order merely 
by looking at the patch:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 
is much clearer than:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 [inlet]
 
(Same for [outlet].)
 
-Jonathan

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From: Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com
Subject: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of 
inlets/outlets?
To: pd list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:32 PM


In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets in 
the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing the 
subpatch?


I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and on 
google didn't turn anything up. 


thanks,


-Morgan

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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Richie Cyngler
Correct me if I'm wrong but this doesn't work for me. They stay in order of
creation, the abstraction object doesn't change when I move the horizontal
alignment of the inlets in the subpatch.

As seen here:

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

 doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])

 Also in:
 http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7

 Trivia:
 If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a
 canvas, the order in
 which they were created (from most recent to least recent) corresponds to
 the left-to-right
 order of the subpatch's inlets on the parent patch.  In other words: if you
 have:
 [inlet]
 [inlet]

 There's no way to tell by looking what the ordering is.  So, obviously,
 don't do that, but
 also keep in mind that it's a good idea in general to keep all [inlet]
 objects in a horizontal row so one can quickly grasp their left-to-right
 order merely by looking at the patch:

 [inlet] [inlet]

 is much clearer than:

 [inlet] [inlet]
  [inlet]

 (Same for [outlet].)

 -Jonathan

 --- On *Mon, 2/14/11, Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com* wrote:


 From: Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com
 Subject: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of
 inlets/outlets?
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 Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:32 PM


 In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which
 inlets/outlets in the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch
 representing the subpatch?

 I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and
 on google didn't turn anything up.

 thanks,

 -Morgan

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 Web:
 http://www.morganpackard.com

 Music/Art:
 Latest album: Moment Again 
 Elsewherehttp://www.anticipaterecordings.com/releases/ANT_011/index.php
 iOS app Thicket 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/thicket/id364824621?mt=8available on iTunes 
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Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hm, not sure-- maybe you've got multiple instances of the same abstraction open 
and 
are modifying a different one?

To simplify, try testing it in a [pd subpatch].  You can actually see the wires 
to any 
connected objects in the parent patch 
change when you alter the horizontal placement of one [inlet] with 
respect to another.

-Jonathan

--- On Tue, 2/15/11, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of 
inlets/outlets?
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd list pd-list@iem.at, Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 3:40 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but this doesn't work for me. They stay in order of 
creation, the abstraction object doesn't change when I move the horizontal 
alignment of the inlets in the subpatch.

As seen here:

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])
 
Also in:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7
 
Trivia:
If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a canvas, 
the order in 
which they were created (from most recent to least recent) corresponds to 
the left-to-right 
order of the subpatch's inlets on the parent patch.  In other words: if you 
have: 
[inlet]
[inlet]
 
There's no way to tell by looking what the ordering is.  So, obviously, don't 
do that, but 
also keep in mind that it's a good idea in general to keep all [inlet] objects 
in a horizontal row so one can quickly grasp their left-to-right order merely 
by looking at the patch:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 
is much clearer than:
 
[inlet] [inlet]
 [inlet]
 
(Same for [outlet].)
 
-Jonathan

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com wrote:


From: Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com
Subject: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of 
inlets/outlets?

To: pd list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:32 PM


In other words, when I edit my subpatch, how can I tell which inlets/outlets in 
the subpatch correspond to which in box in the main patch representing the 
subpatch?


I'm sure this is a common question, but a quick glance through the docs and on 
google didn't turn anything up. 


thanks,


-Morgan

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