Re: [PD] one laptop per child
Barry Vercoe, the creator of Csound, works at the MIT Media Lab, so I think that played a big part of why Csound was chosen. .hc On Sep 25, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > Interesting that they chose Csound. I thought they may have chosen > this: > > http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/index.php > > ~Kyle > > On 9/25/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> nice, that actually is not bad at all! >> marius. >> >> mik wrote: >>> marius schebella schreef: I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d drawing with GEM). anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. marius. >>> >>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=31L9qaxOrp0 >>> >>> m >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > -- > - > > - > - -- > http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com > http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The OLPC music app I saw was this little sequencer. I was appalled to see that it was really heavy on the western music system, with seemingly little option for anything else. Contrast this with bars that play both kinds of music: country and western. Certainly, if I had to listen to western all day, I'd grow tired. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
Oh wow, the synthLab demo is great! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nwqt8NMT-zI ~Kyle On 9/25/07, mik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > marius schebella schreef: > > I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about > > 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I > > really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d > > drawing with GEM). > > anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. > > marius. > > > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=31L9qaxOrp0 > > m > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
Interesting that they chose Csound. I thought they may have chosen this: http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/index.php ~Kyle On 9/25/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nice, that actually is not bad at all! > marius. > > mik wrote: > > marius schebella schreef: > >> I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about > >> 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I > >> really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d > >> drawing with GEM). > >> anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. > >> marius. > >> > > > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=31L9qaxOrp0 > > > > m > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
nice, that actually is not bad at all! marius. mik wrote: > marius schebella schreef: >> I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about >> 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I >> really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d >> drawing with GEM). >> anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. >> marius. >> > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=31L9qaxOrp0 > > m > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
marius schebella schreef: > I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about > 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I > really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d > drawing with GEM). > anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. > marius. > http://youtube.com/watch?v=31L9qaxOrp0 m ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
Actually, Pd works "out of the box" on OX, I tried it last summer :) So folks can always download it. cheers M On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:40:44AM -0400, marius schebella wrote: > I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about > 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I > really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d > drawing with GEM). > anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. > marius. > > Miller Puckette wrote: > > Well, they only have 512M of 'disk' (actually flash) so they're only doing > > each thing one particular way... so Pd won't be part of it, since csound is > > the official music package. There's a whole GUI superstructure they're > > defining from scratch, targetted specifically for school-age children. > > > > cheers > > M > > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:31:46AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: > >> > >> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier > >> to understand and use than Csound. > >> > >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400 > >> marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> hey, > >>> just read that olpc ("XO") will include csound. what about a light > >>> version of pd? > >>> marius. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> -- > >> Use the source > >> > >> ___ > >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d drawing with GEM). anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have. marius. Miller Puckette wrote: > Well, they only have 512M of 'disk' (actually flash) so they're only doing > each thing one particular way... so Pd won't be part of it, since csound is > the official music package. There's a whole GUI superstructure they're > defining from scratch, targetted specifically for school-age children. > > cheers > M > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:31:46AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: >> >> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier >> to understand and use than Csound. >> >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400 >> marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> hey, >>> just read that olpc ("XO") will include csound. what about a light >>> version of pd? >>> marius. >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> -- >> Use the source >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Jamie Bullock wrote: > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 05:31 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: >> >> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier >> to understand and use than Csound. > > I had a play with one of the OLPC machines at GUADEC this year, and > Csound is well buried beneath a polished GUI. I presume they chose it > because of the all the built-in and instantly usable opcodes/ugens. The OLPC music app I saw was this little sequencer. I was appalled to see that it was really heavy on the western music system, with seemingly little option for anything else. So much for the laptop for the world... or hopefully I am wrong. .hc > > Jamie > > -- > www.postlude.co.uk > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 05:31 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: > > OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier > to understand and use than Csound. I had a play with one of the OLPC machines at GUADEC this year, and Csound is well buried beneath a polished GUI. I presume they chose it because of the all the built-in and instantly usable opcodes/ugens. Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
Well, they only have 512M of 'disk' (actually flash) so they're only doing each thing one particular way... so Pd won't be part of it, since csound is the official music package. There's a whole GUI superstructure they're defining from scratch, targetted specifically for school-age children. cheers M On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:31:46AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: > > > OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier > to understand and use than Csound. > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400 > marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hey, > > just read that olpc ("XO") will include csound. what about a light > > version of pd? > > marius. > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > -- > Use the source > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] one laptop per child
OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier to understand and use than Csound. On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400 marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey, > just read that olpc ("XO") will include csound. what about a light > version of pd? > marius. > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list