Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Barry Vercoe, the creator of Csound, works at the MIT Media Lab, so I  
think that played a big part of why Csound was chosen.

.hc

On Sep 25, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

> Interesting that they chose Csound. I thought they may have chosen  
> this:
>
> http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/index.php
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> On 9/25/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> nice, that actually is not bad at all!
>> marius.
>>
>> mik wrote:
>>> marius schebella schreef:
 I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will  
 take about
 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for  
 Csound? I
 really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d
 drawing with GEM).
 anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
 marius.

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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


The OLPC music app I saw was this little sequencer.  I was appalled
to see that it was really heavy on the western music system, with
seemingly little option for anything else.


Contrast this with bars that play both kinds of music: country and 
western. Certainly, if I had to listen to western all day, I'd grow tired.


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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Oh wow, the synthLab demo is great!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nwqt8NMT-zI

~Kyle

On 9/25/07, mik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> marius schebella schreef:
> > I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about
> > 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I
> > really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d
> > drawing with GEM).
> > anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
> > marius.
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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Interesting that they chose Csound. I thought they may have chosen this:

http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/index.php

~Kyle

On 9/25/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nice, that actually is not bad at all!
> marius.
>
> mik wrote:
> > marius schebella schreef:
> >> I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about
> >> 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I
> >> really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d
> >> drawing with GEM).
> >> anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
> >> marius.
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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread marius schebella
nice, that actually is not bad at all!
marius.

mik wrote:
> marius schebella schreef:
>> I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about 
>> 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I 
>> really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d 
>> drawing with GEM).
>> anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
>> marius.
>>
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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread mik
marius schebella schreef:
> I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about 
> 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I 
> really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d 
> drawing with GEM).
> anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
> marius.
> 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=31L9qaxOrp0

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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread Miller Puckette
Actually, Pd works "out of the box" on OX, I tried it last summer :)
So folks can always download it.

cheers
M

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:40:44AM -0400, marius schebella wrote:
> I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about 
> 100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I 
> really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d 
> drawing with GEM).
> anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
> marius.
> 
> Miller Puckette wrote:
> > Well, they only have 512M of 'disk' (actually flash) so they're only doing
> > each thing one particular way... so Pd won't be part of it, since csound is
> > the official music package.  There's a whole GUI superstructure they're
> > defining from scratch, targetted specifically for school-age children.
> > 
> > cheers
> > M
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:31:46AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
> >>
> >> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier
> >> to understand and use than Csound.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400
> >> marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >>> hey,
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> >>> version of pd?
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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-25 Thread marius schebella
I think the latest model has a 1GB flashcard. and the OS will take about 
100MB. Do you say that they build a children targetted GUI for Csound? I 
really think Pd would be the better choice, (you also can teach 3d 
drawing with GEM).
anyway, a dedicated OX Pd would be nice to have.
marius.

Miller Puckette wrote:
> Well, they only have 512M of 'disk' (actually flash) so they're only doing
> each thing one particular way... so Pd won't be part of it, since csound is
> the official music package.  There's a whole GUI superstructure they're
> defining from scratch, targetted specifically for school-age children.
> 
> cheers
> M
> 
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:31:46AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
>>
>> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier
>> to understand and use than Csound.
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400
>> marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> hey,
>>> just read that olpc ("XO") will include csound. what about a light 
>>> version of pd?
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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Jamie Bullock wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 05:31 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
>>
>> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier
>> to understand and use than Csound.
>
> I had a play with one of the OLPC machines at GUADEC this year, and
> Csound is well buried beneath a polished GUI. I presume they chose it
> because of the all the built-in and instantly usable opcodes/ugens.

The OLPC music app I saw was this little sequencer.  I was appalled  
to see that it was really heavy on the western music system, with  
seemingly little option for anything else.  So much for the laptop  
for the world...  or hopefully I am wrong.

.hc

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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-24 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 05:31 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
> 
> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier
> to understand and use than Csound.

I had a play with one of the OLPC machines at GUADEC this year, and
Csound is well buried beneath a polished GUI. I presume they chose it
because of the all the built-in and instantly usable opcodes/ugens.

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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-24 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, they only have 512M of 'disk' (actually flash) so they're only doing
each thing one particular way... so Pd won't be part of it, since csound is
the official music package.  There's a whole GUI superstructure they're
defining from scratch, targetted specifically for school-age children.

cheers
M

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:31:46AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
> 
> 
> OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier
> to understand and use than Csound.
> 
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400
> marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > hey,
> > just read that olpc ("XO") will include csound. what about a light 
> > version of pd?
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Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-24 Thread Andy Farnell


OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier
to understand and use than Csound.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:53:38 -0400
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> hey,
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> version of pd?
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