Re: [PD] understanding vline~
On 07/03/2008, at 1.01, naysayer wrote: > when you click on the rampup, jump down, ramp up again you don't > actually get to see that in the example patch because it happens so > quickly in the atom gui.(does anyone agree on that with me??). I do. > Where as if you print the output of snapshot then you can see > that it is working Better might be to display it in a graph. Best, Steffen ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
sorry wrong example. print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0.0551474 print: 0.155283 print: 0.255419 print: 0.354104 print: 0.45424 print: 0.554376 print: 0.654512 print: 0.754649 print: 0.854785 print: 0.954921 print: 0.0550567 print: 0.155193 print: 0.255329 print: 0.355465 print: 0.45415 print: 0.554286 print: 0.654422 print: 0.754558 print: 0.854694 print: 0.95483 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 On 3/7/08, naysayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok > i think the problem here is that the documentation is not the best way to > present what vline can do. although the explaination is there, i feel that > the demonstation does not reproduce the results for the user(or beginner > user for that matter). > for example. > > when you click on the rampup, jump down, ramp up again you don't actually > get to see that in the example patch because it happens so quickly in the > atom gui.(does anyone agree on that with me??). Where as if you print the > output of snapshot then you can see that it is working. eg > > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0 > print: 0.0551474 > print: 0.155283 > print: 0.255419 > print: 0.354104 > print: 0.45424 > print: 0.554376 > print: 0.654512 > print: 0.754649 > print: 0.854785 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > print: 1 > > > On 3/7/08, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > sorry, I was blind and now I see. I should not post mails so late. > > > > marius. > > > > > > IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > marius schebella wrote: > > >> yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. > > > > > > apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for > > > version 0.33): > > > "The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not > > > supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.)" > > > > > > fgmasdr. > > > IOhannes > > > > > > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
ok i think the problem here is that the documentation is not the best way to present what vline can do. although the explaination is there, i feel that the demonstation does not reproduce the results for the user(or beginner user for that matter). for example. when you click on the rampup, jump down, ramp up again you don't actually get to see that in the example patch because it happens so quickly in the atom gui.(does anyone agree on that with me??). Where as if you print the output of snapshot then you can see that it is working. eg print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0.0551474 print: 0.155283 print: 0.255419 print: 0.354104 print: 0.45424 print: 0.554376 print: 0.654512 print: 0.754649 print: 0.854785 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 On 3/7/08, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sorry, I was blind and now I see. I should not post mails so late. > > marius. > > > IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > marius schebella wrote: > >> yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. > > > > apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for > > version 0.33): > > "The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not > > supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.)" > > > > fgmasdr. > > IOhannes > > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
sorry, I was blind and now I see. I should not post mails so late. marius. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > marius schebella wrote: >> yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. > > apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for > version 0.33): > "The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not > supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.)" > > fgmasdr. > IOhannes > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
Marius wrote: > the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one > second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again > starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). Which means: go to 1 over a duration of one second, then immediately (after that) jump to zero, then immediately (after that) ramp up again over a duration of a second: i.e., two consecutive ramps, sawtooth-like, in a total time of 2 seconds. UNLESS _before that_ you have clicked some other message and the vline~ has an initial value of 1, in which case you won't notice the first ramp (because it is a ramp from 1 to 1) which _may_ be what confused the author of this thread. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one > second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again > starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). Note that if [vline~] already is at 1 when you clicked the message box a second time, you may not see the first rise to 1. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
marius schebella wrote: > yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): "The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.)" fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. the first number is the value that you want to go to. the second value is the duration it takes to go to that value and the third nmber is the time when to start with the action. 99 1000 5000 means go to 99 in 1000ms but wait for 5000 ms before you start. the problem is, if you send another message 0 500 1000 before the 5 seconds of the first message passed then it overwrites the first message and goes to 0 after 1 second. (and if you were at 0 nothing happens.) the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). marius. naysayer wrote: > hi all. > > just wondering if i am the only one who has missed the point when it comes > to vline~. i know this has been around for quite some time now but i am > confused as to how the object actually works. in the documentation there is > an explanation that i feel is a little hard to understand. > > the message box says > ramp up, jump down, then ramp up again > > | 1 1000, 0 0 1000, 1 1000 1000 ( > > yet when i press it > only ramps upto 1 and thats it. now i'm trying how to use it and make > it work but i can't figure out the syntax. > > could someone point me in the right direction. perhaps i'm being completely > stupid and i've missed something simple. > > thanks > > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
