Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Arduino for Pd'ers tutorial

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 this is very nice !
 i have one (beginner) question,
 for analog inputs ,if you push your potentiometer full right,
 couldn't it harm the card because it is a kind of short ?
 would it be better to have a resistor in serial?

I have to admit that my knowledge on electronics is non-existent. I've
built quite some controllers with Arduino though, and never used any
resistor with potentiometers and nothing weird happened, they work fine...
I know that when you spin a potentiometer full right or left, it connects
its middle leg to 5V or ground, but never had problems with it.
Maybe someone who's got knowledge on this could clarify it...




 2014-09-01 12:51 GMT+02:00 Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com:
  Sorry for cross-posting, I tried to reply to my previous post but got a
  notification that the announce list is not for discussions (makes
 sense), so
  I'm sending a new email.
 
  I just made a few corrections to the servo motors project of a tutorial
 on
  Arduino and Pd I wrote last month (attached).
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: [PD] Compile error on Odroid-U3

2014-09-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2014-09-02 10:44, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On Sam, 2014-08-30 at 19:02 +0300, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
 
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 5:31 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig
 zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 08/30/2014 10:57 AM, Alexandros
 Drymonitis wrote:
 /dev/mmcblk0p2  3.3G  3.1G  2.0M 100% /
 
 
 well, this means that you filesystem *is* full. I managed to
 install Pd with apt-get. Any idea why there's no space to 
 compile from source but can install from the repos?

well, the puredata package will be considerably smaller than the
build-process (which also contains a large number of intermediate
binary files; and the resulting binary is not (yet) stripped of
uneeded symbols.
e.g. if i install Pd on my debian system using the puredata package
it will take about 5.7MB, whereas if i build it myself the pd
directory contains about 34MB of data (after the build; not counting
the 20MB in the .git directory which i expect not to be there when
using the tarball)


 
 A possible scenario would be that there was enough space to
 install Pd from the repository, but later there was not enough
 space left for compiling Pd. Either way, it's moot to further
 investigate the reason, since the reason is clear: Your
 filesystem is full, as IOhannes clearly stated before. The only
 way to deal with that is to free some space deleting files or
 moving them to another partition or storage device.
 
 I've only installed libtool, automake and jack before I tried to
 compile Pd. Everything else that's in the filesystem came with the
 image installed in the eMMC module. Any suggestions as to what I
 should delete?

anything you don't need...
(it's hard to answer this without being too snarky).
since you only installed so few things, it seems that you are using a
pre-made system image.
probably the image comes with a number of fancy software installed,
including a full fledged desktop environment (like gnome), an office
suite (like libreoffice) and what not.

check what you have, think what you will never use and throw it away.


in the meantime, you might want to start thinking about why you have
an 8GB disk and you only see 3.5GB (on two partitions).

- - maybe you are not using the emmc module at all
- - maybe there is a large unused/unpartioned space on the emmc module.
- - maybe you bought an 8GB module but only got a 4GB one.

in any case, check
$ cat /proc/partitions


 I started a new thread about a new error message I get when I tried
 to run Pd, which is:

i'll come to that in the other thread then.

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Re: [PD] Problem with X11 (was: Compile error on Odroid-U3)

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:51 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:

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 On 2014-08-31 17:34, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
  I'm starting a new thread cause the problems I have with Odroid
  are changing. Since I installed Pd with apt-get, at first, when I
  was writing /usr/bin/pd, I was getting the following: priority 6
  scheduling enabled. priority 8 scheduling enabled.

 whenever I have problems starting Pd, I start with disabling (default)
 options.
 the above indicates that Pd tries to run with rt-priviliges.
 run with -nrt.

  Fontconfig warning: ignoring UTF-8: not a valid region tag
 
  and Pd was hanging (this was mentioned in the previous thread).
 
  Now I get something else when I try to open Pd, which is this:
 [...]
  xcb_connection_has_error() returned true

 since i have never seen this error before, i pasted it into my
 favourite search engine (you might want to do the same).
 the results i got seem to indicate that it is related to pulseaudio.

I am searching the errors, but get dozens of links and not sure which one
gives answers I need. I try different things...


 try starting Pd without audio:
 run with -nosound.

Did with both -nrt and -nosound flags, but the same thing happens, only I
didn't see watchdog signaling Pd...



  X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11
  connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection
  rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection rejected
  because of wrong authentication. X11 connection rejected because of
  wrong authentication.

 again i did a quick websearch, and found [2], which gives a nice
 checklist (though you can ignore the last item with X11 client
 forwarding, as this is a) turned on explicitely with -X and b)
 seems to work anyhow e.g. on udoo)

Seems to be ok, following these directions. Though, since the initial
problem was space, I searched for the linux command to show partitions and
found $ sudo fdisk -l, which gives the following:
Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7818 MB, 7818182656 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 238592 cylinders, total 15269888 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000c4046

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/mmcblk0p13072  266239  1315846  FAT16
/dev/mmcblk0p2  266240 7407615 3570688   83  Linux

Disk /dev/mmcblk0rpmb: 0 MB, 524288 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 16 cylinders, total 1024 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

Disk /dev/mmcblk0rpmb doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1: 4 MB, 4194304 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 128 cylinders, total 8192 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0: 4 MB, 4194304 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 128 cylinders, total 8192 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x1907e61d

Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0 doesn't contain a valid partition table


any secret hidden there?


  priority 6 scheduling enabled. priority 8 scheduling enabled. X11
  connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection
  rejected because of wrong authentication. application-specific
  initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
  localhost:10.0

 localhost:10.0 is the DISPLAY-setting for X11-forwarding via ssh.
 this means: whenever you start ssh -X ..., ssh will set the DISPLAY
 to this value, so that all X11-applications will be forwarded to your
 local machine.

 in any case, you should first get X11 forwarding to run properly
 (without Pd).
 use some simple application (like xclock or xeyes) to test whether it
 works,

Nope, none of them. Both give this error:
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0



 fgdmasr
 IOhannes

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Re: [PD] Problem with X11 (was: Compile error on Odroid-U3)

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
An update to this thread. I found this thread in Odroid's forum
http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=79t=5650 and followed the
suggestion of the fourth post, saying to change the 'Option fbdev
/dev/fb1' to fb0 (well it's for Debian Wheezy and my Odroid is running in
Ubuntu, but gave it a shot), and when I try to open Pd I get this:
xcb_connection_has_error() returned true
priority 6 scheduling enabled.
priority 8 scheduling enabled.
application-specific initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
localhost:10.0

but I don't get the X11 connection rejected because of wrong
authentication. error any more. Then watchdog is signaling Pd without Pd
opening.
Is this any better?


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com
wrote:




 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:51 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
 wrote:

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 On 2014-08-31 17:34, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
  I'm starting a new thread cause the problems I have with Odroid
  are changing. Since I installed Pd with apt-get, at first, when I
  was writing /usr/bin/pd, I was getting the following: priority 6
  scheduling enabled. priority 8 scheduling enabled.

 whenever I have problems starting Pd, I start with disabling (default)
 options.
 the above indicates that Pd tries to run with rt-priviliges.
 run with -nrt.

  Fontconfig warning: ignoring UTF-8: not a valid region tag
 
  and Pd was hanging (this was mentioned in the previous thread).
 
  Now I get something else when I try to open Pd, which is this:
 [...]
  xcb_connection_has_error() returned true

 since i have never seen this error before, i pasted it into my
 favourite search engine (you might want to do the same).
 the results i got seem to indicate that it is related to pulseaudio.

 I am searching the errors, but get dozens of links and not sure which one
 gives answers I need. I try different things...


 try starting Pd without audio:
 run with -nosound.

 Did with both -nrt and -nosound flags, but the same thing happens, only I
 didn't see watchdog signaling Pd...



  X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11
  connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection
  rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection rejected
  because of wrong authentication. X11 connection rejected because of
  wrong authentication.

 again i did a quick websearch, and found [2], which gives a nice
 checklist (though you can ignore the last item with X11 client
 forwarding, as this is a) turned on explicitely with -X and b)
 seems to work anyhow e.g. on udoo)

 Seems to be ok, following these directions. Though, since the initial
 problem was space, I searched for the linux command to show partitions and
 found $ sudo fdisk -l, which gives the following:
 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7818 MB, 7818182656 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 238592 cylinders, total 15269888 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x000c4046

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/mmcblk0p13072  266239  1315846  FAT16
 /dev/mmcblk0p2  266240 7407615 3570688   83  Linux

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0rpmb: 0 MB, 524288 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 16 cylinders, total 1024 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0rpmb doesn't contain a valid partition table

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1: 4 MB, 4194304 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 128 cylinders, total 8192 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1 doesn't contain a valid partition table

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0: 4 MB, 4194304 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 128 cylinders, total 8192 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x1907e61d

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0 doesn't contain a valid partition table


 any secret hidden there?


  priority 6 scheduling enabled. priority 8 scheduling enabled. X11
  connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection
  rejected because of wrong authentication. application-specific
  initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
  localhost:10.0

 localhost:10.0 is the DISPLAY-setting for X11-forwarding via ssh.
 this means: whenever you start ssh -X ..., ssh will set the DISPLAY
 to this value, so that all X11-applications will be forwarded to your
 local machine.

 in any case, you should first get X11 forwarding to run properly
 (without Pd).
 use some simple 

Re: [PD] Problem with X11 (was: Compile error on Odroid-U3)

2014-09-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2014-09-02 14:13, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:51 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig
 zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 
 since i have never seen this error before, i pasted it into my 
 favourite search engine (you might want to do the same). the
 results i got seem to indicate that it is related to pulseaudio.
 
 I am searching the errors, but get dozens of links and not sure
 which one gives answers I need. I try different things...

cool.
i usually get *thousands* of links...


 Disk /dev/mmcblk0rpmb doesn't contain a valid partition table 
 Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot1 doesn't contain a valid partition table 
 Disk /dev/mmcblk0boot0 doesn't contain a valid partition table
 
 
 any secret hidden there?

no.
you get errors because you are trying to read partition tables from
partitions (which don't contain partition tables; only disks do)
most info revealed by the first command (`fdisk -l`) has already been
revealed by `cat /proc/partitions`

 in any case, you should first get X11 forwarding to run properly 
 (without Pd). use some simple application (like xclock or xeyes) to
 test whether it works,
 
 Nope, none of them. Both give this error: X11 connection rejected
 because of wrong authentication. Error: Can't open display:
 localhost:10.0


what is the user you using to log into the odroid?
what does the following return on the odroid:

  $ file ~/.Xauthority

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[PD] [polygate~] equal power function? sin/cos?

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, about [polygate~]. Does anyone know what kind of equalpower function
that's being used for the crossfade? is it sine/cossine?

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Re: [PD] Fresh XP install, extended works but not vanilla?

2014-09-02 Thread JF via Pd-list
Nobody?



On Wednesday, 20 August 2014, 19:46, JF sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
 



Hi all,


I've come across a problem that has me stumped.


I've recently bought another laptop which is the same model/spec as my current 
one. I've installed Win XP SP2 (again, same as other laptop) fresh from the 
OEM disc, and tried to run PD vanilla and it wouldn't open. Nothing happened 
when double clicking the EXE.


I downloaded the latest vanilla version (I think I had been running an older 
version) from Miller's page and the latest extended. Again vanilla wouldn't 
run. Extended installed fine though and that works. I thought tha installing 
extended might 'fix' vanilla but that still won't run.


I opened the command line and ran the pd.com and it said there was an TCL 
error? But no windows pop up and nothing else happens. I don't have much info 
to go on...


pd.com

spawnl: Invalid argument
C:\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load TCL



Does anybody know how I should attack this? Or can anyone help?


Thanks in advance as always,
John.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Arduino for Pd'ers tutorial

2014-09-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2014-09-02 at 09:19 +0200, Py Fave wrote:
 this is very nice !
 i have one (beginner) question,
 for analog inputs ,if you push your potentiometer full right,
 couldn't it harm the card because it is a kind of short ?
 would it be better to have a resistor in serial?

Let's say, you connect the left pin of the poti to ground, the right to
5V and the middle one to the analog input. When you turn the poti fully
right, it creates a short between 5V and the analog input, which is no
problem at all, as the analog has a very high impedance, which means
only a very tiny current is flowing. 

Roman

 2014-09-01 12:51 GMT+02:00 Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com:
  Sorry for cross-posting, I tried to reply to my previous post but got a
  notification that the announce list is not for discussions (makes sense), so
  I'm sending a new email.
 
  I just made a few corrections to the servo motors project of a tutorial on
  Arduino and Pd I wrote last month (attached).
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: [PD] Fresh XP install, extended works but not vanilla?

2014-09-02 Thread Max
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I guess it might be hard to find someone with a fresh XP install
since it is EOL.


On 09/03/2014 03:27 AM, JF via Pd-list wrote:
 Nobody?
 
 
 On Wednesday, 20 August 2014, 19:46, JF sainti...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've come across a problem that has me stumped.
 
 I've recently bought another laptop which is the same model/spec
 as my current one. I've installed Win XP SP2 (again, same as other 
 laptop) fresh from the OEM disc, and tried to run PD vanilla and
 it wouldn't open. Nothing happened when double clicking the EXE.
 
 I downloaded the latest vanilla version (I think I had been
 running an older version) from Miller's page and the latest
 extended. Again vanilla wouldn't run. Extended installed fine
 though and that works. I thought tha installing extended might
 'fix' vanilla but that still won't run.
 
 I opened the command line and ran the pd.com and it said there was 
 an TCL error? But no windows pop up and nothing else happens. I 
 don't have much info to go on...
 
 pd.com spawnl: Invalid argument C:\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load
 TCL
 
 Does anybody know how I should attack this? Or can anyone help?
 
 Thanks in advance as always, John.
 

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Re: [PD] [polygate~] equal power function? sin/cos?

2014-09-02 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
what about an opposite version of polygate~ that would compare do demux~,
is there anything like it in Pd Extended?

cheers


2014-09-02 13:58 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com:

 Hi, about [polygate~]. Does anyone know what kind of equalpower function
 that's being used for the crossfade? is it sine/cossine?

 thanks

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