Re: [PD] [osc parse] & [route]

2015-05-13 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Joel,

On 14/05/15 11:45, Joel Corelitz wrote:
> I’m able to route everything I need to in Max this way so some of this
> is admittedly due to not understanding the different ways Pd handles the
> data.

It's super annoying, but what is actually coming from oscparse is a
"symbol" not a float. In Pd there is currently no way to re-cast a
symbol-float atom back to what it looks like, so instead you'll have to
manually create one of these "symbol" floats to compare against, which
you can do with a message through makefilename like this:

[42(
 |
[makefilename %d]
 |
into the right inlet of your 'route'.

This will route on the "symbol" 42.

I submitted a patch to Miller to allow [f] to cast those symbol-floats
back to floats (since there are now 3 different ways to accidentally or
purposely create a symbol-float) a while back but I think he thinks
there is a better way of handling this situation.

Cheers,

Chris.

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[PD] [osc parse] & [route]

2015-05-13 Thread Joel Corelitz
Hi All! I’m new Here.

I came across a thread from a few months ago that discussed this issue, so 
hopefully this isn’t too much of a re-tread.  Sounded like this was a known 
“feature” with some workarounds but no clear-cut solution.   

I’m trying to route OSC messages, formatted as lists using Pd Vanilla:

[netreceive -u -b 8024]
|
[oscparse]
|
[list trim]

I see my list in the Pd window when the result is sent to [print], but when I 
[route] by the first number, nothing passes through.
I’m able to route everything I need to in Max this way so some of this is 
admittedly due to not understanding the different ways Pd handles the data.

Any help / workarounds are much appreciated!  

-Joel


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Re: [PD] olimex board

2015-05-13 Thread Julian Brooks
Project sounds good, like to hear/see it.

Installation of libs is easy

search available libs in debian repo
sudo apt-cache search pd-*
(there's probably a better way of searching that doesn't bring up so much
cruft - they're in there, just scroll up)

then
sudo apt-get install pd-whatever

and you should be ready to go.

There are some (bit out of date) lists of PdE objects floating around
online and the help files from most objects tell you what lib they're part
of.

Very likely that you'd get Jack running with recent vanilla from repo's too.

Completely understand you not wanting to change such a fundamental
component at this late stage. I spent several months, on and off,
attempting to sort that error - it was annoying.

Good luck with it all,

Julian

On 13 May 2015 at 16:21, Raphaël Ilias  wrote:

> Hi Julian,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. However I'm really accustomed to pd-extended
> and never tried to install externals by myself... and I'm quite short on
> time to learn this (public show in one month ;-) )
>
> Do you really think this is related to pd-extended ? the way pd-extended
> interfaces with soundcard/driver is the same as vanilla's, isn't it ?
>
> About the project :
> the idea is to have an "autonomous" system with a tiny computer running
> pd, with microphone input (cheap electret) and a loudspeaker, everything
> working on batteries. WiFi let me control patches or even write patches
> through VNC.
> On the hardware it's quite fine : i get input/output sound, and the board
> can run about 6 hours with a 6600mAh battery. Loudspeaker is a commercial
> battery-powered amplifier with its own batteries. I used to have some noise
> in the microphone because the wifi dongle was too close, so i got some
> extra cable and sound is quite good now.
>
> cheers,
>
> Raphaël
>
>
> 2015-05-13 15:33 GMT+02:00 Julian Brooks :
>
>> Hi Raphaël,
>>
>> Personally never got to the bottom of that error on Debian with
>> pd-extended 0.43.
>>
>> Would recommend jumping to vanilla - most libs are available in the
>> repo's.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Sounds an interesting project, be keen to hear how you get on.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>> On 13 May 2015 at 13:56, Raphaël Ilias  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi !
>>>
>>> Just to inform you that I'm currently experimenting with Olimex's
>>> development boards, this might interest some people here (i am not doing
>>> any advertising at all) who are into "mobile puredata"
>>>
>>> the set-up i use consists of
>>> - Olimex's A20-OLinuXino-LIME board (dual core Cortex-A7)
>>> - with their own Debian distribution
>>> - cheap USB audio interface : "Terratec Aureon Dual USB"
>>> - pd-extended 0.43-4
>>> - patching through VNC (and through Wi-Fi)
>>>
>>> And it works.
>>> ..not as fast as on my laptop, of course, but I can run patches ok.
>>> yet, the GUI is indeed quite slow (especially opening a patch)
>>>
>>> However, I have a few troubles, but it might not be the right place to
>>> ask...
>>> I am newbie to debian, so I couldn't setup jack at all. I'm using alsa
>>> but I get the error at startup :
>>> "ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe"
>>> (and also sometimes when opening patche, I get a bunch of these and DSP
>>> get stuck, i need to turn OFF and ON again pd's DSP to get audio back.)
>>>
>>> Searching the archive, I saw that some people got the same problem and
>>> resolved it by suspending/de-installing pulseaudio.
>>> But it seems that pulseaudio isn't installed here.
>>> Maybe someone has got a clue, where to search...? (i know this is very
>>> specific problem !)
>>>
>>> all best,
>>>
>>> Raphaël
>>>
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Re: [PD] olimex board

2015-05-13 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

Le 13/05/2015 14:56, Raphaël Ilias a écrit :


However, I have a few troubles, but it might not be the right place to ask...
I am newbie to debian, so I couldn't setup jack at all. I'm using alsa but I 
get the error at startup :
"ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe"
(and also sometimes when opening patche, I get a bunch of these and DSP get 
stuck, i need to turn OFF and ON again pd's DSP to get audio back.)


can you try to stop the audio processing, open the patch, and start dsp after 
the patch is loaded?

i guess the patch loading need to much cpu so audio can not be computed in the 
same time.

cheers
c

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Re: [PD] olimex board

2015-05-13 Thread Raphaël Ilias
Hi Julian,

Thanks for your suggestion. However I'm really accustomed to pd-extended
and never tried to install externals by myself... and I'm quite short on
time to learn this (public show in one month ;-) )

Do you really think this is related to pd-extended ? the way pd-extended
interfaces with soundcard/driver is the same as vanilla's, isn't it ?

About the project :
the idea is to have an "autonomous" system with a tiny computer running pd,
with microphone input (cheap electret) and a loudspeaker, everything
working on batteries. WiFi let me control patches or even write patches
through VNC.
On the hardware it's quite fine : i get input/output sound, and the board
can run about 6 hours with a 6600mAh battery. Loudspeaker is a commercial
battery-powered amplifier with its own batteries. I used to have some noise
in the microphone because the wifi dongle was too close, so i got some
extra cable and sound is quite good now.

cheers,

Raphaël


2015-05-13 15:33 GMT+02:00 Julian Brooks :

> Hi Raphaël,
>
> Personally never got to the bottom of that error on Debian with
> pd-extended 0.43.
>
> Would recommend jumping to vanilla - most libs are available in the repo's.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Sounds an interesting project, be keen to hear how you get on.
>
> Regards,
>
> Julian
>
>
> On 13 May 2015 at 13:56, Raphaël Ilias  wrote:
>
>> Hi !
>>
>> Just to inform you that I'm currently experimenting with Olimex's
>> development boards, this might interest some people here (i am not doing
>> any advertising at all) who are into "mobile puredata"
>>
>> the set-up i use consists of
>> - Olimex's A20-OLinuXino-LIME board (dual core Cortex-A7)
>> - with their own Debian distribution
>> - cheap USB audio interface : "Terratec Aureon Dual USB"
>> - pd-extended 0.43-4
>> - patching through VNC (and through Wi-Fi)
>>
>> And it works.
>> ..not as fast as on my laptop, of course, but I can run patches ok.
>> yet, the GUI is indeed quite slow (especially opening a patch)
>>
>> However, I have a few troubles, but it might not be the right place to
>> ask...
>> I am newbie to debian, so I couldn't setup jack at all. I'm using alsa
>> but I get the error at startup :
>> "ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe"
>> (and also sometimes when opening patche, I get a bunch of these and DSP
>> get stuck, i need to turn OFF and ON again pd's DSP to get audio back.)
>>
>> Searching the archive, I saw that some people got the same problem and
>> resolved it by suspending/de-installing pulseaudio.
>> But it seems that pulseaudio isn't installed here.
>> Maybe someone has got a clue, where to search...? (i know this is very
>> specific problem !)
>>
>> all best,
>>
>> Raphaël
>>
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Re: [PD] olimex board

2015-05-13 Thread Julian Brooks
Hi Raphaël,

Personally never got to the bottom of that error on Debian with pd-extended
0.43.

Would recommend jumping to vanilla - most libs are available in the repo's.

Hope that helps.

Sounds an interesting project, be keen to hear how you get on.

Regards,

Julian


On 13 May 2015 at 13:56, Raphaël Ilias  wrote:

> Hi !
>
> Just to inform you that I'm currently experimenting with Olimex's
> development boards, this might interest some people here (i am not doing
> any advertising at all) who are into "mobile puredata"
>
> the set-up i use consists of
> - Olimex's A20-OLinuXino-LIME board (dual core Cortex-A7)
> - with their own Debian distribution
> - cheap USB audio interface : "Terratec Aureon Dual USB"
> - pd-extended 0.43-4
> - patching through VNC (and through Wi-Fi)
>
> And it works.
> ..not as fast as on my laptop, of course, but I can run patches ok.
> yet, the GUI is indeed quite slow (especially opening a patch)
>
> However, I have a few troubles, but it might not be the right place to
> ask...
> I am newbie to debian, so I couldn't setup jack at all. I'm using alsa but
> I get the error at startup :
> "ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe"
> (and also sometimes when opening patche, I get a bunch of these and DSP
> get stuck, i need to turn OFF and ON again pd's DSP to get audio back.)
>
> Searching the archive, I saw that some people got the same problem and
> resolved it by suspending/de-installing pulseaudio.
> But it seems that pulseaudio isn't installed here.
> Maybe someone has got a clue, where to search...? (i know this is very
> specific problem !)
>
> all best,
>
> Raphaël
>
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Re: [PD] WRO 2015 Media Art Biennale

2015-05-13 Thread Csaba Láng
2015.05.13. 15:11, "Csaba Láng"  ezt írta:

> I am here too.behind the toilettes hehe with the tracking cams. Hope to
> find more pd fellows at wro!
> Popesz
> 2015.05.13. 6:14, "Seiichiro MATSUMURA"  ezt írta:
>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> The opening events of 16th WRO 2015 Media Art Biennale "TEST EXPOSURE" in
>> Wroclow, Poland is started from today 13th May and continued until 17th May.
>>
>> http://wro2015.wrocenter.pl/site/
>>
>> I participate and find some art works are made by Pd. (including my
>> installation work "Dancing Mirror" which is also 100% Pd structured.)
>> If you are in Poland or close to south west Poland, please come and see
>> them.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sei Matsumura
>>
>> --
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
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>>
>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
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[PD] olimex board

2015-05-13 Thread Raphaël Ilias
Hi !

Just to inform you that I'm currently experimenting with Olimex's
development boards, this might interest some people here (i am not doing
any advertising at all) who are into "mobile puredata"

the set-up i use consists of
- Olimex's A20-OLinuXino-LIME board (dual core Cortex-A7)
- with their own Debian distribution
- cheap USB audio interface : "Terratec Aureon Dual USB"
- pd-extended 0.43-4
- patching through VNC (and through Wi-Fi)

And it works.
..not as fast as on my laptop, of course, but I can run patches ok.
yet, the GUI is indeed quite slow (especially opening a patch)

However, I have a few troubles, but it might not be the right place to
ask...
I am newbie to debian, so I couldn't setup jack at all. I'm using alsa but
I get the error at startup :
"ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe"
(and also sometimes when opening patche, I get a bunch of these and DSP get
stuck, i need to turn OFF and ON again pd's DSP to get audio back.)

Searching the archive, I saw that some people got the same problem and
resolved it by suspending/de-installing pulseaudio.
But it seems that pulseaudio isn't installed here.
Maybe someone has got a clue, where to search...? (i know this is very
specific problem !)

all best,

Raphaël
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Re: [PD] GEM, pix-video and point grey USB 3.0 cameras

2015-05-13 Thread eb

thanks Antoine - 

I ll get a camera for testing this evening. 

best

Erich


On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 08:48 +, Antoine Villeret wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> 
> I tested a pontgrey chameleon USB3 camera under Ubuntu 14.04 64bit
> 
> 
> You need libdc1394 with USB support and a recent Gem with video_dc1394
> plugin.
> Then you may need to tweak the udev to enable read/write access to the
> device.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> a
> 
> Le mar. 12 mai 2015 à 09:03, eb  a écrit :
> hello,
> 
> I am considering using a Point Grey USB 3.0 camera
> http://www.ptgrey.com/  with pix_video under linux.
> 
> does anybody have experience with such a device under linux  ?
> 
> best
> 
> Erich
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] GEM, pix-video and point grey USB 3.0 cameras

2015-05-13 Thread Antoine Villeret
Hello,

I tested a pontgrey chameleon USB3 camera under Ubuntu 14.04 64bit

You need libdc1394 with USB support and a recent Gem with video_dc1394
plugin.
Then you may need to tweak the udev to enable read/write access to the
device.

Cheers

a

Le mar. 12 mai 2015 à 09:03, eb  a écrit :

> hello,
>
> I am considering using a Point Grey USB 3.0 camera
> http://www.ptgrey.com/  with pix_video under linux.
>
> does anybody have experience with such a device under linux  ?
>
> best
>
> Erich
>
>
>
>
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