date:20170802

[PD] "Wish" instead of "Pd" in menu bar on OSX

2017-08-02 Thread rolfm


after compiling pd-0.48-0test6 on OSX 10.5.8
with
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
make install

starting pd in Terminal

everything seems to work

only confusing thing: in the menu bar it says "Wish" instead of "Pd".

probably a (very) minor 'problem'

rolf

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Re: [PD] deken not working on macbook 4.1 with OSX 10.5.8

2017-08-02 Thread rolfm


@Dan
your fix worked.

your new deken feature, the downloading to /users/me/Library/Pd or 
another folder works also.


thnx,
rolf

Dan Wilcox schreef op 02-08-2017 1:06:

what can i do?

rolf


Looks like a simple fix. You can do a simple test:

1. close Pd

2. Right click on the Pd .app & choose "Open package contents"

3. navigate to Contents/Resources/tcl

4. open pd_deken.tcl in a text editor

5. Find the line "for {set i 0} {True} {incr i} {" and change the
"True" to "true"

6. save the file

7. run Pd


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika [1]
danomatika.com [2]
robotcowboy.com [3]



Links:
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[1] http://twitter.com/danomatika
[2] http://danomatika.com
[3] http://robotcowboy.com


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Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

2017-08-02 Thread Lucas Cordiviola

Are you sure you did step 3 (with -byte 4 flag) & then reload the written file 
(step 4).?


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On 8/2/2017 7:38 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
 I tried your method with -bytes 4 flag, but the results are the same for me. I 
think I a stuck with [soundfiler] object. Maybe I will look for alternative 
option like recording the audio with [writesf~] or trying to save the contents 
of a table as a list (txt).
Thank you once again for helping me!
Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162



From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: Hrvoje Radnic 
Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

This is because the soundfile is written @ 16 bits (bit depth).
Use the flag  "-bytes 4" for the message to write the file. This is "4 byte 
floating point" or 32bit floating point, same as the original "laboratory" 
array. (you don't need to do this if the first array was filled with a normal 
sound file).
You will see that the numbers match in your example.

Salutti,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/2/2017 6:33 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
Hi!

It doesn't work well for me. What I discovered with your patch is that 
soundfiler can't skip too far. For example, if I send it a message with 2M skip 
flag and 199 nframes flag, the ramp does not climb up to the top. You can 
compare the values with [tabread] objects (see the attached patch). Will you 
please, check that on your system?
Thank you very much for your time!
Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162



From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: "hrvojerad...@yahoo.com" 

Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Use this graphical patch, "array-sound.pd" attached .
it looks like this:
[X]



Will help to describe the issue.
Hope it helps.


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On 8/1/2017 2:52 PM, hrvojerad...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
What I hear is not the part I wanted to save ie I need the part from the end of 
a table, getting the part from the beginning instead. And it is shorter.
I can't find the pattern in that offset, so can't describe the bug precisely.

Poslano s mojeg iPhonea

01.08.2017., u 13:24, Lucas Cordiviola 
mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>> napisao:

I'm on win8.1
Do you clear the array when loading files that are smaller than the one you 
loaded previously?
Can you describe what is that you are hearing that makes you feel there's a bug?

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 8:13 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
Yes, the playback part [readsf~] is bad, but that was not an issue. I made a 
mistake with pasting the part from my patch.
Regarding the soundfiler, I still have no clue what is wrong with my patch. 
Maybe the problem is OS specific? I can't test it on my Win machine right now. 
What's your OS? I am on ubuntu sudio.
Cheers!


Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162



From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: Hrvoje Radnic ; 
"pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

I've corrected the [readsf~] but the rest is OK.
Didn't have troubles with -nframes > 1.8M. Works Ok with 2.5M.
The only limitation that I know for integer numbers (on Pd's control level) is 
that you can't exceed the 16777216 number.
See attached.
Salutti,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 6:10 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
Sure, it is in the attachment.
Thank you for your time!

Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162



From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Can you attach a patch that demonstrate the issue?
Do not attach the sound-file, we fill your specified n of samples.
Salutti,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 7/31/2017 6:31 AM, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:
Ok, I got some success with soundfiler, but,  found out that I can write a file 
only if the last sample of the file is smaller than 1 800 000 approximately 
(-nframes flag). Anyone had similar experience? Is it a bug?
Thanks!

Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

2017-08-02 Thread Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list

 I tried your method with -bytes 4 flag, but the results are the same for me. I 
think I a stuck with [soundfiler] object. Maybe I will look for alternative 
option like recording the audio with [writesf~] or trying to save the contents 
of a table as a list (txt). 
Thank you once again for helping me!Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova 
00385(0)915225162

  From: Lucas Cordiviola 
 To: Hrvoje Radnic  
Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

This is because the soundfile is written @ 16 bits (bit depth).Use the flag  
"-bytes 4" for the message to write the file. This is "4 byte floating point" 
or 32bit floating point, same as the original "laboratory" array. (you don't 
need to do this if the first array was filled with a normal sound file).
You will see that the numbers match in your example.
Salutti,
Lucarda.
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 8/2/2017 6:33 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
wrote:

Hi!
It doesn't work well for me. What I discovered with your patch is that 
soundfiler can't skip too far. For example, if I send it a message with 2M skip 
flag and 199 nframes flag, the ramp does not climb up to the top. You can 
compare the values with [tabread] objects (see the attached patch). Will you 
please, check that on your system?Thank you very much for your time!Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: "hrvojerad...@yahoo.com"  
Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Use this graphical patch, "array-sound.pd" attached .it looks like this:

Will help to describe the issue.
Hope it helps.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 2:52 PM, hrvojerad...@yahoo.com wrote:

What I hear is not the part I wanted to save ie I need the part from the end of 
a table, getting the part from the beginning instead. And it is shorter. I 
can't find the pattern in that offset, so can't describe the bug precisely. 
Poslano s mojeg iPhonea
01.08.2017., u 13:24, Lucas Cordiviola  napisao:

I'm on win8.1Do you clear the array when loading files that are smaller than 
the one you loaded previously?Can you describe what is that you are hearing 
that makes you feel there's a bug?
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 8/1/2017 8:13 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
wrote:

Yes, the playback part [readsf~] is bad, but that was not an issue. I made a 
mistake with pasting the part from my patch.
Regarding the soundfiler, I still have no clue what is wrong with my patch. 
Maybe the problem is OS specific? I can't test it on my Win machine right now. 
What's your OS? I am on ubuntu sudio.
Cheers!

 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: Hrvoje Radnic ; "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

I've corrected the [readsf~] but the rest is OK.Didn't have troubles with 
-nframes > 1.8M. Works Ok with 2.5M.The only limitation that I know for integer 
numbers (on Pd's control level) is that you can't exceed the 16777216 number.
See attached.Salutti,
Lucarda.
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 8/1/2017 6:10 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
wrote:

Sure, it is in the attachment.Thank you for your time!
 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola
To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at"  
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Can you attach a patch that demonstrate the issue?Do not attach the sound-file, 
we fill your specified n of samples.Salutti,
Lucarda.
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 7/31/2017 6:31 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
via Pd-list wrote:

Ok, I got some success with soundfiler, but,  found out that I can write a file 
only if the last sample of the file is smaller than 1 800 000 approximately 
(-nframes flag). Anyone had similar experience? Is it a bug?Thanks!
 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Jack
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Hello,

Did you see the help file about [soundfiler] to save a table in binary
sound file ?
It is easy to copy/paste a part of table with objects [array].
++

Jack

Le 30/07/2017 à 12:14, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list a écrit :
> Dear List!
> 
> I would like to save a part of very large table into the audio file.
> Let's say, I have a 10 million points sized table and want to save a
> file to disk which contains the part of that table, ranging from 2M to
> 3M point. I know how to do it by recording the audio in real time, but
> would like to do it "instantly". 
> 
> Thank you for your suggestions!
>  
> Hrvoje Radnic

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Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

2017-08-02 Thread Lucas Cordiviola

This is because the soundfile is written @ 16 bits (bit depth).

Use the flag  "-bytes 4" for the message to write the file. This is "4 byte 
floating point" or 32bit floating point, same as the original "laboratory" 
array. (you don't need to do this if the first array was filled with a normal 
sound file).

You will see that the numbers match in your example.

Salutti,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/2/2017 6:33 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
Hi!

It doesn't work well for me. What I discovered with your patch is that 
soundfiler can't skip too far. For example, if I send it a message with 2M skip 
flag and 199 nframes flag, the ramp does not climb up to the top. You can 
compare the values with [tabread] objects (see the attached patch). Will you 
please, check that on your system?
Thank you very much for your time!
Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: "hrvojerad...@yahoo.com" 

Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Use this graphical patch, "array-sound.pd" attached .
it looks like this:
[cid:2iG6EBUVLdSwo8qIB3I8]

Will help to describe the issue.
Hope it helps.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 2:52 PM, hrvojerad...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
What I hear is not the part I wanted to save ie I need the part from the end of 
a table, getting the part from the beginning instead. And it is shorter.
I can't find the pattern in that offset, so can't describe the bug precisely.

Poslano s mojeg iPhonea

01.08.2017., u 13:24, Lucas Cordiviola 
mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>> napisao:

I'm on win8.1
Do you clear the array when loading files that are smaller than the one you 
loaded previously?
Can you describe what is that you are hearing that makes you feel there's a bug?

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 8:13 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
Yes, the playback part [readsf~] is bad, but that was not an issue. I made a 
mistake with pasting the part from my patch.
Regarding the soundfiler, I still have no clue what is wrong with my patch. 
Maybe the problem is OS specific? I can't test it on my Win machine right now. 
What's your OS? I am on ubuntu sudio.
Cheers!

Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: Hrvoje Radnic ; 
"pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

I've corrected the [readsf~] but the rest is OK.
Didn't have troubles with -nframes > 1.8M. Works Ok with 2.5M.
The only limitation that I know for integer numbers (on Pd's control level) is 
that you can't exceed the 16777216 number.
See attached.
Salutti,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 6:10 AM, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
Sure, it is in the attachment.
Thank you for your time!

Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Can you attach a patch that demonstrate the issue?
Do not attach the sound-file, we fill your specified n of samples.
Salutti,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 7/31/2017 6:31 AM, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:
Ok, I got some success with soundfiler, but,  found out that I can write a file 
only if the last sample of the file is smaller than 1 800 000 approximately 
(-nframes flag). Anyone had similar experience? Is it a bug?
Thanks!

Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Jack 
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Hello,

Did you see the help file about [soundfiler] to save a table in binary
sound file ?
It is easy to copy/paste a part of table with objects [array].
++

Jack

Le 30/07/2017 à 12:14, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list a écrit :
> Dear List!
>
> I would like to save a part of very large table into the audio file.
> Let's say, I have a 10 million points sized table and want to save a
> file to disk which contains the part of that table, ranging from 2M to
> 3M point. I know how to do it by recording the audio in real time, but
> would like to do it "instantly".
>
>

Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

2017-08-02 Thread Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list

Hi!
It doesn't work well for me. What I discovered with your patch is that 
soundfiler can't skip too far. For example, if I send it a message with 2M skip 
flag and 199 nframes flag, the ramp does not climb up to the top. You can 
compare the values with [tabread] objects (see the attached patch). Will you 
please, check that on your system?Thank you very much for your time!Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova 
00385(0)915225162

  From: Lucas Cordiviola 
 To: "hrvojerad...@yahoo.com"  
Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 12:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Use this graphical patch, "array-sound.pd" attached .it looks like this:

Will help to describe the issue.
Hope it helps.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 8/1/2017 2:52 PM, hrvojerad...@yahoo.com wrote:

What I hear is not the part I wanted to save ie I need the part from the end of 
a table, getting the part from the beginning instead. And it is shorter. I 
can't find the pattern in that offset, so can't describe the bug precisely. 
Poslano s mojeg iPhonea
01.08.2017., u 13:24, Lucas Cordiviola  napisao:

I'm on win8.1Do you clear the array when loading files that are smaller than 
the one you loaded previously?Can you describe what is that you are hearing 
that makes you feel there's a bug?
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 8/1/2017 8:13 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
wrote:

Yes, the playback part [readsf~] is bad, but that was not an issue. I made a 
mistake with pasting the part from my patch.
Regarding the soundfiler, I still have no clue what is wrong with my patch. 
Maybe the problem is OS specific? I can't test it on my Win machine right now. 
What's your OS? I am on ubuntu sudio.
Cheers!

 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
To: Hrvoje Radnic ; "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

I've corrected the [readsf~] but the rest is OK.Didn't have troubles with 
-nframes > 1.8M. Works Ok with 2.5M.The only limitation that I know for integer 
numbers (on Pd's control level) is that you can't exceed the 16777216 number.
See attached.Salutti,
Lucarda.
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 8/1/2017 6:10 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
wrote:

Sure, it is in the attachment.Thank you for your time!
 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Lucas Cordiviola
To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at"  
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Can you attach a patch that demonstrate the issue?Do not attach the sound-file, 
we fill your specified n of samples.Salutti,
Lucarda.
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.On 7/31/2017 6:31 AM, Hrvoje Radnic 
via Pd-list wrote:

Ok, I got some success with soundfiler, but,  found out that I can write a file 
only if the last sample of the file is smaller than 1 800 000 approximately 
(-nframes flag). Anyone had similar experience? Is it a bug?Thanks!
 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162

From: Jack
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Writing part of large table to file

Hello,

Did you see the help file about [soundfiler] to save a table in binary
sound file ?
It is easy to copy/paste a part of table with objects [array].
++

Jack

Le 30/07/2017 à 12:14, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list a écrit :
> Dear List!
> 
> I would like to save a part of very large table into the audio file.
> Let's say, I have a 10 million points sized table and want to save a
> file to disk which contains the part of that table, ranging from 2M to
> 3M point. I know how to do it by recording the audio in real time, but
> would like to do it "instantly". 
> 
> Thank you for your suggestions!
>  
> Hrvoje Radnic

   #N canvas 469 389 876 610 10;
#X obj 530 50 array define zx 4e+06;
#X obj 215 252 /;
#X msg 207 220 1;
#X msg 255 218 4e+06;
#X obj 177 356 array set zx;
#X obj 275 293 f;
#X obj 309 293 + 1;
#X msg 291 255 0;
#X obj 157 294 f;
#X msg 173 256 0;
#X obj 191 294 +;
#X obj 175 123 until;
#X msg 175 100 4e+06;
#X obj 172 147 t b b;
#X obj 211 68 t b b b b b;
#X obj 402 38 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X obj 454 198 soundfiler;
#X obj 532 371 array define soundf;
#X msg 508 250 read -resize zx.wav soundf;
#X text 33 17 1) write a 4 million samples array with a ramp up :;
#X text 522 28 2) double-clik to see ramp up;
#X text 453 100 3) write 2 millon samples wav from 500k to 2M500k;
#X text 522 228 4) load zx.wav;
#X text 535 343 5) double-clik to see file ramp up;
#X msg 465 125 write -wave -skip 2e+06 -nframes 2e+06 zx.wav zx;
#X obj 169 484 tabread zx;
#X obj 337 488 tabread soundf;
#X msg 172 446 2e+06;
#X floatatom 169 506 9 0 0 0 - - -, f 9;
#X msg 356 453 0;
#X floatatom 329 510 9 0 0 0 - -

Re: [PD] Informations about GEM

2017-08-02 Thread ub@xdv

hello ivano,

On 01.08.2017 02:40, Ivano Arrighetta wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> As far as you know, is GEM updated to the latest OpenGL?
> Does it support shaders?
if your graphic card and your driver support it, then -- yes -- you can
compile and run GLSL shaders from Gem.

> Finally, I would like to investigate more, but the manual may be outdated (in 
> the Pd site). Where's the latest documentation?
There is documentation that ships with pd and its installed externals
directly. that's usually the most actual and should be your first point
of reference.
choose "help" from the menu bar then open the "patch browser" and in
"Gem" you can find examples for how to use shaders in directory 10.glsl

hope that helps, have fun
ub

> Or, better, is there an updated documentation?
> 
> Thanks in advance for help.
> 
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