Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

[Dan Wilcox]

After some testing, it looks like the issue is how the Tk is handling the Shift 
key with the French keyboard mapping.

For example, the Bang shortcut is bound as:

bind all <$::modifier-Shift-Key-B> {menu_send %W bng}
bind all <$::modifier-Shift-Key-b> {menu_send %W bng}

and the menu item:

$mymenu add command -label [_ "Bang"] -accelerator "$accelerator+Shift+B" \
-command {menu_send $::focused_window bng}

With the English keyboard mapping, the $::modifier-Shift-Key-b fires and the 
menu item's command is ignored (expected behavior).

With the French keyboard mapping, the $::modifier-Shift-Key-B fires AND the 
menu item command fires. It seems as though the capital B doesn't get matched 
to the menu accelerator binding.

The German keyboard mapping behaves the same as the English one.

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 10:29 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> I can confirm seeing this with a French keyboard mapping and my system set to 
> English.


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Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut

[hans w. koch]

somehow, i have the feeling that the key repeat rate (set in system 
preferences) has changed in mac os recently.
this might also be the culprit for multiple obect creations:
if you press a key and hold it, it is interpreted as several keypresses at key 
repeat rate.
until you turn that off entirely.

hth hans
> Am 23.03.2018 um 16:17 schrieb Jack :
> 
> The previous JY's message unencrypted :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Same trouble
> 
> Pd 0.48.1
> 
> Osx 10.10.2
> 
> I dont know if this is related, but on my system,
> 
> Keyup object outputs  its value immediately after key, when I press a
> key, not when I release it.
> 
> 
> 
> Le 23/03/2018 à 14:24, jean-yves a écrit :
>> create two objects on MacOSX (Jack)
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Re: [PD] Paper about vcf~ implementation?

[Rich Eakin]

Hi there, sorry to raise a dead post..

I'm curious, did you ever end up posting your version of the cpp code
somewhere? I'd love to see it if so and try to glean what I can from it.

cheers,
Rich

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:53 AM, i go bananas  wrote:

> Hi, i recently coded it in more 'readable' c++ code.  Can share with you
> if u want, i guess?
>
> It's a "one pole complex filter", and miller has suggested previously on
> this list that it is indeed basically a wrapper for the same code as the
> cpole~ object, with some other stuff thrown in to calculate the
> coefficients.
> ( https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2014-07/107391.html )
>
> cheers, Matt
>
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Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

[Dan Wilcox]

I can confirm seeing this with a French keyboard mapping and my system set to 
English.

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Jack  wrote:
> 
> It is with : Tk 8.5.19
> ++
> 
> Jack
> 
> Le 22/03/2018 à 18:21, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
>> Ok thanks for checking.
>> 
>> At least we can confirm it's a system language issue, although I'm
>> thinking it's more of a bug in Tk. Which version of TK does it display
>> when you put the log to all?
>> 
>> I'm wondering if it's also related to setting the available languages in
>> the app bundle. I'll see if I can look into it as it's pretty annoying.
>> I ran into the same problem with earlier buggy versions of Tk < 8.5.13.
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 5:53 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Jack >
>>> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard
>>> shortcut create two objects on MacOSX
>>> Message-ID: <163110eb-5078-0c07-8594-da9e350e3...@rybn.org
>>> >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>> 
>>> Yep, I confirm.
>>> I asked to a participant to launch Pd in english, but it doesn't solve
>>> the problem.
>>> ++
>>> 
>>> Jack
> 


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Re: [PD] compiling PD on windows

[Dan Wilcox]

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 3:27 PM, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
> 
> so, with the sources from github i succeeded to make the app.

Great!

> the verbosity of the output of the whole proces is quite overwhelming for 
> someone like me.

That's normal output for the whole build process. Just let it run until it 
stops. If you build a lot of open source projects, just just get used to seeing 
it even if not everything makes sense. At least you know *something* is 
happening. There are some tricks to silence the output but most people *expect* 
it at this point and it's especially helpful to see where errors happen (if 
they happen).

> there were a number of warnings:
> e.g.: "remember to run 'libtool --finish //bob~
> or: "assignment from incompatible pointer"
> 
> is it necessary to do something with them?


No, it's just a warning and this particular one is just complaining that 
libtool doesn't like the tilde in the compiled external file name. It works 
just fine.


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Re: [PD] reporting the dimensions of a symbol / float atom

[Dan Wilcox]

Yes, that's why I suggested looking in there. The relevant variables are:

* font_metrics 
* font_zoom2_metrics
* font_measured
* font_zoom2_measured

The first two are an array of pixel sizes per character used when trying to 
find the font size that fits. This is done in the fit_font_into_metrics proc.

The second two arrays contain the measured sizes: fontsizes charwidth charheight

Note that there is also code in the C core which accesses these sizes and you 
may get a consistency check error when changing some of the metric numbers.

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 7:10 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 06:09:57 +
> From: Liam Goodacre >
> Cc: Pd-List >
> Subject: Re: [PD] reporting the dimensions of a symbol / float atom
> Message-ID:
>   
>   
> >
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
>> If anyone wants to suggest fixes too he font sizing algorithm, start by
>> looking into the metrics and related font procedures in pd-gui.tcl.
> 
> Is pd-gui.tcl where we would find the right variable to call if we were 
> trying to report the dimensions of an atom?


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Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut

[Jack]

The previous JY's message unencrypted :

Hi,

Same trouble

Pd 0.48.1

Osx 10.10.2

I dont know if this is related, but on my system,

Keyup object outputs  its value immediately after key, when I press a
key, not when I release it.



Le 23/03/2018 à 14:24, jean-yves a écrit :
> create two objects on MacOSX (Jack)
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 14:19:27 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
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Re: [PD] compiling PD on windows

[rolfm]

thanks everyone for your advices.

i made 2 major mistakes:

1. i thought it's possible to use /src in Miller's download for Windows.
2. using MSYS2 instead of MSYS2 MINGw32.

in both cases one has to provide additional tools and/or the correct 
path to them in the Windows system.

therefore the "cl.exe not found".
MINGW32 has them included.

so, with the sources from github i succeeded to make the app.

the verbosity of the output of the whole proces is quite overwhelming 
for someone like me.

there were a number of warnings:
e.g.: "remember to run 'libtool --finish //bob~
or: "assignment from incompatible pointer"

is it necessary to do something with them?

@lucas
great, you saved me the efforts to find out what to use on XP (MSYS2 
doesn't work anymore on XP).


rolf

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Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut

[jean-yves]

create two objects on MacOSX (Jack)
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Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard shortcut create two objects on MacOSX

[Jack]

It is with : Tk 8.5.19
++

Jack



Le 22/03/2018 à 18:21, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
> Ok thanks for checking.
> 
> At least we can confirm it's a system language issue, although I'm
> thinking it's more of a bug in Tk. Which version of TK does it display
> when you put the log to all?
> 
> I'm wondering if it's also related to setting the available languages in
> the app bundle. I'll see if I can look into it as it's pretty annoying.
> I ran into the same problem with earlier buggy versions of Tk < 8.5.13.
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 5:53 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
>>  wrote:
>>
>> From: Jack >
>> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Creating a GUI object on Pd 0.48.1 with keyboard
>> shortcut create two objects on MacOSX
>> Message-ID: <163110eb-5078-0c07-8594-da9e350e3...@rybn.org
>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Yep, I confirm.
>> I asked to a participant to launch Pd in english, but it doesn't solve
>> the problem.
>> ++
>>
>> Jack
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [PD] Moving canvas dialog isnide abstraction doesn't refresh well.

[Loïc Reboursiere]

Perfect ! Thanks !

Loïc

2018-03-23 10:50 GMT+01:00 Liam Goodacre :

> Hi Loïc
>
> Th canvas only refreshes if it is open. To get around this problem, you
> can use a "menu-open" command to open the sub-window right before and "vis
> 0" right after to close. The whole thing would look something like this:
>
> "menu-open, donecanvasdialog 1 1 -1 0 -1 1 1 120 40 10 $1, vis 0"
>
> Liam
> --
> *From:* Pd-list  on behalf of Loïc
> Reboursiere 
> *Sent:* 23 March 2018 09:31
> *To:* pd-list@lists.iem.at
> *Subject:* [PD] Moving canvas dialog isnide abstraction doesn't refresh
> well.
>
> Hi list,
>
> first post here !
>
> I'm trying to script the position of the canvas dialog inside an
> abstraction but the graphics don't refresh at all.
> The idea is to have a [vradio] object to control the position of the
> canvas so that it switches to different options inside the abstraction
> (like bpatcher offset message in Max). Is it the right way to do it (using
> donecanvasdialog message) or is there another one ?
>
> Patches are attached. The one to launch is action-choice.pd
>
> Thanks !
>
> Loïc
>
> --
> 
> http://www.medicationtime.net
> http://soundcloud.com/MedicationTime
> http://www.vimeo.com/user2896549
> http://vimeo.com/user2896549/videos/all
>
> http://www.numediart.org
> 
>



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Re: [PD] Moving canvas dialog isnide abstraction doesn't refresh well.

[Liam Goodacre]

Hi Loïc

Th canvas only refreshes if it is open. To get around this problem, you can use 
a "menu-open" command to open the sub-window right before and "vis 0" right 
after to close. The whole thing would look something like this:

"menu-open, donecanvasdialog 1 1 -1 0 -1 1 1 120 40 10 $1, vis 0"

Liam

From: Pd-list  on behalf of Loïc Reboursiere 

Sent: 23 March 2018 09:31
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: [PD] Moving canvas dialog isnide abstraction doesn't refresh well.

Hi list,

first post here !

I'm trying to script the position of the canvas dialog inside an abstraction 
but the graphics don't refresh at all.
The idea is to have a [vradio] object to control the position of the canvas so 
that it switches to different options inside the abstraction (like bpatcher 
offset message in Max). Is it the right way to do it (using donecanvasdialog 
message) or is there another one ?

Patches are attached. The one to launch is action-choice.pd

Thanks !

Loïc

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http://soundcloud.com/MedicationTime
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http://vimeo.com/user2896549/videos/all

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[PD] Moving canvas dialog isnide abstraction doesn't refresh well.

[Loïc Reboursiere]

Hi list,

first post here !

I'm trying to script the position of the canvas dialog inside an
abstraction but the graphics don't refresh at all.
The idea is to have a [vradio] object to control the position of the canvas
so that it switches to different options inside the abstraction (like
bpatcher offset message in Max). Is it the right way to do it (using
donecanvasdialog message) or is there another one ?

Patches are attached. The one to launch is action-choice.pd

Thanks !

Loïc

-- 

http://www.medicationtime.net
http://soundcloud.com/MedicationTime
http://www.vimeo.com/user2896549
http://vimeo.com/user2896549/videos/all

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