Re: [PD] Compiling externals for w64. (was : Re: Slider/Knob)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

As a follow up on this I have uploaded to deken these packages for Pd-64bit.


v0.0.exteded old ones:

hcs[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
ekext[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
earplug~[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
cxc[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
chaos[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
boids[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
bassemu~[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
arraysize[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
adaptive[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
zexy[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
pmpd[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
pddp[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
PDContainer[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
mrpeach[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
motex[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
mjlib[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
mediasettings[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
markex[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
log[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek
hexloader[v0.0.extended](Windows-amd64-32)(Sources).dek


And:

ggee[v0.27~git20180926](Windows-amd64-32).dek

And also the never released for windows 'pd-drag' -- you can drop 
patches to the canvas and it puts them as abstractions or if you drop them on 
Pd's main windows their are opened normaly.

pd-dnd-plugin[v0.1](Windows-i386-32)(Windows-amd64-32).dek


:)


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On 9/7/2018 11:07 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

Hi Alfonso,

Back in March, when we got w64 Pd to work and also we tweaked the nuts and 
bolts of pd-lib-builder, I did some preliminary work on compiling many libs 
(all 00-extended) for w64.
I got in to troubles and found some solutions. May be this week (or next) I'll 
revisit my files and try to upload them to Deken.

I did all the stuff with Msys2.

Keep in mind that for modern libs that already use pd-lib-builder compiling 
them for w64 is really straight forward.

:)


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On 9/7/2018 9:57 AM, alfonso santimone wrote:
Hi all,
i'm trying to move all my music apps to 64 bit on Windows (it's the standard 
and more softwares are adbandoning the 32 bit version)
I would really like to try both moonlib and the oliver's abtraction.
But everything rely on 32 bits library.
Hope to get some 64x version soon.
Pd 0.48.2 works fine on Win 64x as a 64x application. A little number of 
libraries (else, cyclone ) are already compiled for 64x.
I hope more and more will follow.
I even could help compiling and try to get the knowledge (pd lib builder ) to 
try some 64x compling.

a.
www.elgallorojorecords.com
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www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM Antoine Rousseau 
mailto:anto...@metalu.net>> wrote:
Thanks for recommending mknob ;-)

I'd like to do an update of moonlib soon, as it has received some improvements: 
sfread2~ understands a new [index( message (thx to Antoine Villeret), and mknob 
now better supports zooming.

About the latter, I'd like to hear your opinion (you all mknob users...) about 
the following problem (and the solution I propose):

mknob poses a particular problem: because its circular shape doesn't comply to 
Pd graphical paradigm (every other objects are rectangular shaped), iolets are 
floating in an empty space near the knob; because it's visually ugly, and I 
don't want to surround the knob with a rectangular box, I chose not to draw the 
iolets, even when the mknob is not bounded to receive/send symbols. The problem 
(for explicitly connected  knobs) is now that it's somewhat tricky to guess 
where you have to draw the connection to/from, and that the wire connects 
to/from nowhere. This is acceptable for small knob, but when it becomes bigger 
it's really weird.

So the only idea I see (apart from hacking Pd sources...) is to setup 3 inlets 
and 3 outlets, so that you can connect from/to the one in the middle; the wire 
is then actually connected to the circle. I succeeded to code this behaviour, 
keeping to possibility to use any inlet and sending to the three outlets. It's 
maybe a little far-fetched, but its works. What do you think of it?


Antoine Rousseau
  http://www.metalu.net __ 
http://www.metaluachahuter.com/



Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 13:05, Christof Ressi 
mailto:christof.re...@gmx.at>> a écrit :
I recommend mknob from moonlib, but make sure you get the latest version from 
deken for pd >= 0.47

Christof

> Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 12:59 Uhr
> Von: Clemens mailto:reinkl...@online.de>>
> An: Pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Betreff: [PD] Slider/Knob
>
> Hello List,
>
> I would like to use knobs instead of sliders,
>
> where 

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Ingo]

Autoremove didn't do it unfortunately.


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> Heiland-Allen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 4:34 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released
>
> Hi,
>
> > Neither "apt-get remove puredata" nor "apt-get purge puredata" did
> > uninstall my Pd 0.47 version.
> > I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .
>
> "puredata" is a meta package, that depends on the real components:
>
> $ apt show puredata
> ...
> Depends: puredata-core, puredata-gui, puredata-doc, puredata-extra,
> puredata-utils, puredata-dev ...
>
> So you'd need to unsinstall them also, perhaps "apt autoremove" can do it?
>
> Possibly it is a bug in Debian that "puredata" version X doesn't depend on
> "puredata-core" version X ?
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Ingo]

> > I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .
>
> oh my.
> you really shouldn't install packages from "unstable" onto your "stretch"
> installation.
> simply wait for the packages to appear in stretch-backports, and install 
> from
> there. it's probably another 3 days to wait.

OK! That might be the problem ...
I'm getting an installation but it looks like it's not complete.

I'll try to revert to 0.47 or 0.48.2 until the actual 0.49 release is uploaded 
to debian-backports.

Thanks, IOhannes!
Ingo



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> zmoelnig
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 4:40 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released
>
> On 9/26/18 4:09 PM, Ingo wrote:
> > I managed to install 0.49 from the unstable repository but cannot find
> > out in which folder it was installed or how to start it.
>
> > I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .
>
> oh my.
> you really shouldn't install packages from "unstable" onto your "stretch"
> installation.
> simply wait for the packages to appear in stretch-backports, and install 
> from
> there. it's probably another 3 days to wait.
>
> (alternatively, you can upgrade your entire system to "Debian/unstable"; 
> those
> distro releases are really there to guarantee you a consistent system)
>
> > When I type "pd" into the console it still wants to start 0.47 from
> > /usr/lib/puredata which I finally moved away from the original folder.
> >
> > Neither "apt-get remove puredata" nor "apt-get purge puredata" did
> > uninstall my Pd 0.47 version.
>
> that's because the "puredata" is just a meta-package that depends on the
> actual packages puredata-core and puredata-gui (and doesn't provide any
> functionality on it's own).
> even worse, the "puredata" package is happy if any version of puredata-core
> and puredata-gui are installed (even if it is just 0.47).
>
>
> fgdmas
> IOhannes






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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Roman Haefeli]

On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 08:06 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> I think that's only true in the 32-bit version

Ah, you're right.

> which uses the old compilation scheme in which it's possible to edit
> the
> source code and recompile in place.  The ".o" files are there so that
> only
> the code you changed gets recompiled.

I see. Thanks.

Roman

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Miller Puckette]

I think that's only true in the 32-bit version (but correct me if I'm wrong)
which uses the old compilation scheme in which it's possible to edit the
source code and recompile in place.  The ".o" files are there so that only
the code you changed gets recompiled.

This seems not to be a terribly useful feature and isn't present in any
of the new-style builds (the 64 bit versions).  I'll eventually convert
everything to the new style.

cheers
Miller

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 04:53:38PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 13:34 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 20:56 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > > At long last...
> > > 
> > > Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> > > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
> 
> One minor thing about the Windows archives: They contain a bunch of *.o
> files in src/. Am I right in thinking that those are superfluous and
> remnants of the compiling process?



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Roman Haefeli]

On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 13:34 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 20:56 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > At long last...
> > 
> > Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

One minor thing about the Windows archives: They contain a bunch of *.o
files in src/. Am I right in thinking that those are superfluous and
remnants of the compiling process?

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Jack]

Yes ! thanks for everyone involved to bring us this new version of Pd.
++

Jack



Le 26/09/2018 à 13:34, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
> On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 20:56 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
>> At long last...
>>
>> Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
> 
> Cool. A  big 'thank you!' to everyone involved. All the work that went
> into this release is very much appreciated.
> 
> Roman
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

thanks for the detailed explanation.

On 9/26/18 4:34 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
> Possibly it is a bug in Debian that "puredata" version X doesn't depend
> on "puredata-core" version X ?

i'm wondering about that as well, but am not really sure yet...

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 9/26/18 4:09 PM, Ingo wrote:
> I managed to install 0.49 from the unstable repository but cannot find out in 
> which folder it was installed or how to start it.

> I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .

oh my.
you really shouldn't install packages from "unstable" onto your
"stretch" installation.
simply wait for the packages to appear in stretch-backports, and install
from there. it's probably another 3 days to wait.

(alternatively, you can upgrade your entire system to "Debian/unstable";
those distro releases are really there to guarantee you a consistent system)

> When I type "pd" into the console it still wants to start 0.47 from 
> /usr/lib/puredata which I finally moved away from the original folder.
> 
> Neither "apt-get remove puredata" nor "apt-get purge puredata" did uninstall 
> my Pd 0.47 version.

that's because the "puredata" is just a meta-package that depends on the
actual packages puredata-core and puredata-gui (and doesn't provide any
functionality on it's own).
even worse, the "puredata" package is happy if any version of
puredata-core and puredata-gui are installed (even if it is just 0.47).


fgdmas
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Claude Heiland-Allen]

Hi,


Neither "apt-get remove puredata" nor "apt-get purge puredata" did uninstall
my Pd 0.47 version.
I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .


"puredata" is a meta package, that depends on the real components:

$ apt show puredata
...
Depends: puredata-core, puredata-gui, puredata-doc, puredata-extra, 
puredata-utils, puredata-dev

...

So you'd need to unsinstall them also, perhaps "apt autoremove" can do it?

Possibly it is a bug in Debian that "puredata" version X doesn't depend 
on "puredata-core" version X ?



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Kaj Ailomaa]

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Ingo wrote:
> I managed to install 0.49 from the unstable repository but cannot find out in 
> which folder it was installed or how to start it.
> When I type "pd" into the console it still wants to start 0.47 from 
> /usr/lib/puredata which I finally moved away from the original folder.
> 
> Neither "apt-get remove puredata" nor "apt-get purge puredata" did uninstall 
> my Pd 0.47 version.
> I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .
> 
> Any help for being able to actually use 0.49 is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Ingo
> 

Sure you haven't compiled pd from source, and installed it at some point? Check 
the path /usr/local/bin/. If you have 'pd' there, it most probably means you 
compiled and installed it from source.

/usr/local/ has precedence before /usr for executables. You can see the order 
for where executables are found and run by doing 'echo $PATH' in your terminal.



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Ingo]

I managed to install 0.49 from the unstable repository but cannot find out in 
which folder it was installed or how to start it.
When I type "pd" into the console it still wants to start 0.47 from 
/usr/lib/puredata which I finally moved away from the original folder.

Neither "apt-get remove puredata" nor "apt-get purge puredata" did uninstall 
my Pd 0.47 version.
I'm on Debian Stretch 9.5 .

Any help for being able to actually use 0.49 is greatly appreciated!

Ingo




> -Original Message-
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes m
> zmölnig
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:18 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released
>
> On 9/25/18 5:56 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > At long last...
> >
> > Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or
> > (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
> >
>
> hooray!
>
> the Debian packages are already available for Debian/unstable.
> They should be available in Debian/testing (aka: buster) within the next
> 3 days.
> Within the next 7 days, they should hit Debian/stable-backports (aka:
> stretch-backports).
>
> cheers, and happy (& intelligent) patching.
>
> gfamdsr
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[01ivier Baudu]

Those videos look like Si-Fi... oO
Thanks for the thrill...

1°1°
°1°1


Le 26/09/2018 à 09:47, hi via Pd-list a écrit :
> You can find the new features listed and described here:
>
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374
>
> and have a look here:
>
> https://vimeo.com/273707442
>
> and here:
>
> https://vimeo.com/279631360
>
>> Am 26.09.2018 um 00:35 schrieb hans w. koch :
>>
>> thanks to everybody involved!
>>
>> (maybe dumb question) how can i find out about all the new patching features?
>> the changelog mentions them, but not, how to discover them.
>>
>> best
>> hans
>>
>>
>>> Am 25.09.2018 um 22:17 schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig :
>>>
>>> On 9/25/18 5:56 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
 At long last...

 Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
 or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

>>> hooray!
>>>
>>> the Debian packages are already available for Debian/unstable.
>>> They should be available in Debian/testing (aka: buster) within the next
>>> 3 days.
>>> Within the next 7 days, they should hit Debian/stable-backports (aka:
>>> stretch-backports).
>>>
>>> cheers, and happy (& intelligent) patching.
>>>
>>> gfamdsr
>>> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Roman Haefeli]

On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 20:56 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> At long last...
> 
> Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

Cool. A  big 'thank you!' to everyone involved. All the work that went
into this release is very much appreciated.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[Olivier Bélanger]

Ooops... I though I installed pd from backports but no, I have it from
unstable. Sorry for the noise!

btw, new patching features are very nice!

Olivier


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:55 AM IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:

> On 9/25/18 4:18 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> > Within the next 7 days, they should hit Debian/stable-backports (aka:
> > stretch-backports).
>
> On 9/26/18 1:48 AM, Olivier Bélanger wrote:
> > Wow, already in Debian/stable-backports !!!
>
> ah no, what makes you think this?
>
> a package can only be (manually) uploaded to Debian/stable-backports
> once it is in Debian/testing. a package can only be in testing once it
> has migrated (after a few-days cool-off period) from Debian/unstable.
>
> this is to protect the system integrity, and cannot really be changed.
>
> fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[hans w. koch]

thanks very much!

best hans

> Am 26.09.2018 um 09:47 schrieb hi :
> 
> You can find the new features listed and described here:
> 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374
> 
> and have a look here:
> 
> https://vimeo.com/273707442
> 
> and here:
> 
> https://vimeo.com/279631360
> 
>> Am 26.09.2018 um 00:35 schrieb hans w. koch :
>> 
>> thanks to everybody involved!
>> 
>> (maybe dumb question) how can i find out about all the new patching features?
>> the changelog mentions them, but not, how to discover them.
>> 
>> best
>> hans
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 25.09.2018 um 22:17 schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig :
>>> 
>>> On 9/25/18 5:56 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
 At long last...
 
 Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
 or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
 
>>> 
>>> hooray!
>>> 
>>> the Debian packages are already available for Debian/unstable.
>>> They should be available in Debian/testing (aka: buster) within the next
>>> 3 days.
>>> Within the next 7 days, they should hit Debian/stable-backports (aka:
>>> stretch-backports).
>>> 
>>> cheers, and happy (& intelligent) patching.
>>> 
>>> gfamdsr
>>> IOhannes
>>> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 9/25/18 4:18 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> Within the next 7 days, they should hit Debian/stable-backports (aka:
> stretch-backports).

On 9/26/18 1:48 AM, Olivier Bélanger wrote:
> Wow, already in Debian/stable-backports !!!

ah no, what makes you think this?

a package can only be (manually) uploaded to Debian/stable-backports
once it is in Debian/testing. a package can only be in testing once it
has migrated (after a few-days cool-off period) from Debian/unstable.

this is to protect the system integrity, and cannot really be changed.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

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You can find the new features listed and described here:

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374

and have a look here:

https://vimeo.com/273707442

and here:

https://vimeo.com/279631360

> Am 26.09.2018 um 00:35 schrieb hans w. koch :
> 
> thanks to everybody involved!
> 
> (maybe dumb question) how can i find out about all the new patching features?
> the changelog mentions them, but not, how to discover them.
> 
> best
> hans
> 
> 
>> Am 25.09.2018 um 22:17 schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig :
>> 
>> On 9/25/18 5:56 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
>>> At long last...
>>> 
>>> Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>>> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>>> 
>> 
>> hooray!
>> 
>> the Debian packages are already available for Debian/unstable.
>> They should be available in Debian/testing (aka: buster) within the next
>> 3 days.
>> Within the next 7 days, they should hit Debian/stable-backports (aka:
>> stretch-backports).
>> 
>> cheers, and happy (& intelligent) patching.
>> 
>> gfamdsr
>> IOhannes
>> 
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