Re: [PD] Free/Open Bounties
There was recently a bounty for GEM developing, it started picking up, everyone agreed it was a cool idea, I never used GEM in my life and I chipped in 15 US$... the thing is that then there was a discussion on wether to move to a different bounty system and the whole thing kinda died away. So all I have to say is that I don't think there's an issue for Pd people, and my only issue is that I hope my pennies do not go to waste :) Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 às 21:10, Julian Brooks escreveu: > Hi all, > > Can I ask our community what's the general take on bounties? > > I've discussed this informally with a couple of people on here (not > on-list) and it's a polarising topic. > > For me, free/open is doomed unless we accept that current/traditional > methods of practise serve as a form of serfdom - or require a hefty dose of > institutional/employer support (& often community participation - which is > great obvs.). > > It's not sustainable for free software to carry on reliant on free labour > (IMO). > > I've always liked something that Michel Bauwens (p2p foundation) once said > (roughly paraphrased), that copyleft can only be implemented once the > revolution is complete, and until then we require to get paid (somewhere > along the line). > > There are enough crappy things out there that are purely extractive, > without replicating such political/economic hardships within my own > favoured idealised/idealistic communities. > > This though, isn't to say I don't get the argument that it's a dangerous > line to cross, with projects becoming solely an economic arms race, highly > centralised, with reimagined methodologies and rules for participation. > > It's a tricky one. > > All input and insight appreciated... > > Best to all, > > Julian > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Free/Open Bounties
Hi all, Can I ask our community what's the general take on bounties? I've discussed this informally with a couple of people on here (not on-list) and it's a polarising topic. For me, free/open is doomed unless we accept that current/traditional methods of practise serve as a form of serfdom - or require a hefty dose of institutional/employer support (& often community participation - which is great obvs.). It's not sustainable for free software to carry on reliant on free labour (IMO). I've always liked something that Michel Bauwens (p2p foundation) once said (roughly paraphrased), that copyleft can only be implemented once the revolution is complete, and until then we require to get paid (somewhere along the line). There are enough crappy things out there that are purely extractive, without replicating such political/economic hardships within my own favoured idealised/idealistic communities. This though, isn't to say I don't get the argument that it's a dangerous line to cross, with projects becoming solely an economic arms race, highly centralised, with reimagined methodologies and rules for participation. It's a tricky one. All input and insight appreciated... Best to all, Julian ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new iemlib error on XP
hi, the InitOnceExecuteOnce function is not available on Windows XP (see https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/desktop/api/synchapi/nf-synchapi-initonceexecuteonce). I don't know why/where it gets called, it doesn't appear in the source of iemlib and Pd. I would suggest you try to compile it from source on your XP machine. Christof > Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2018 um 21:55 Uhr > Von: oliver > An: "pd-l...@mail.iem.at" > Betreff: [PD] new iemlib error on XP > > hi, > > i just recently discovered that on a Windows XP system (i know ...) the > new iemlib (v1.21) doesn't load anymore but gives this error: > > "The procedure entry point InitOnceExecuteOnce could not be located in > the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll" > > PD 0.48 and PD 0.49, WinXP, SP2 > > > best > > oliver > > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] new iemlib error on XP
hi, i just recently discovered that on a Windows XP system (i know ...) the new iemlib (v1.21) doesn't load anymore but gives this error: "The procedure entry point InitOnceExecuteOnce could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll" PD 0.48 and PD 0.49, WinXP, SP2 best oliver ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] German translation of Pd
Christof Ressi wrote: meaning (= translation) reading the translations "Schieberegler" or "Arbeitsfläche" doesn't tell a new user anything about the meaning. they might get a vague idea but the full "meaning" of those terms only emerges when they create the corresponding object and interact with it. i completely agree with christof in this regard. imagine any possible german translation for a simple yet extensive thing like "message": Botschaft, Nachricht, Mitteilung ... All of them (while technically "correct") would completely miss the point of what a "message" in PD is and what it does (i.e. as opposed to an audio signal, etc. ...) and how would you translate "bang" ? Peng, Bumm, Knall ? ;-) unless the concept behind "bang" (meaning "do it" or "do it again") is explained and understood, you can't make any use of it. don't even start to think about translating more obscure name concepts like "patch" into german ... (i know how long it took me to accept this term, that was otherwise used for cracking or repairing software ;-) i too would leave PD-"specific" terms untouched in any translations, even if they seem translatable or simple. my 2c best oliver ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
