Re: [PD] IFTTT (“if this then that”) and connecting puredata to iot device like a wemo or other open source power outlet

2019-01-26 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:20 PM RT  wrote:
>
> Looks like they are clamping down on flashing the firmware...
> https://support.itead.cc/support/solutions/articles/1161914-how-can-i-downgrade-the-firmware-flash-3rd-party-through-ota-

nope, thats about the OTA functionality of the preflashed firmware
(which i never cared about in the first place)



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Re: [PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 1/26/19 9:19 PM, Simon Iten wrote:
> what version of osx?
> 
> GEM video stuff  has not been working “correctly” on osx for quite a while…

well, the 0.94pre1 release was done on the days before last christmas
(that's a month ago) and it is supposed to work on macOS mojave.

there have been a couple (well: plenty) of bugfixes since then, and i
hope to get a 0.94pre2 release out in the next few days.

the final 0.94 release is supposed to run on Linux (from armhf (like
raspbi), via i386 & amd64 up to s390x), macOS (powerpc, i386 and amd64)
and Windows (i386 and amd64).

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Re: [PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 1/26/19 9:11 PM, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:
> Thanks, but I think I'm going to have to give up. 
[...]
> Off to try something else! Thanks anyway.

yay, that's the spirit!

thanks for waiting at least 1½ hours after posting on a mailinglist
about resurrecting a project that is apparently ~6 years old before
giving up.

gfmasdr
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PS: sorry, but i really couldn't resist.




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Re: [PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread Simon Iten
what version of osx?

GEM video stuff  has not been working “correctly” on osx for quite a while…

> On 26 Jan 2019, at 21:11, J. Simon van der Walt  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, but I think I'm going to have to give up. I did a clean
> reinstall, went with the default paths that were created, but still
> nothing really working in gem. Tried purr data, but gem is only
> supported under linux and windows, which is not an option for this
> project. And my old pd-extended does not seem to be able to make a
> video show fullscreen on the mac. Off to try something else! Thanks
> anyway.
> 
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 18:53, Max  wrote:
>> 
>> On 26.01.19 19:35, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:
>>> I've been away from Pd for quite a while, and I see that pd-extended
>>> is no longer a thing?
>> 
>> It's no longer updated and has fallen behind. Some may say that
>> Purr-Data has picked up where extended has stalled.
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/Pd-L2Ork
>> 
>>> I want to use GEM, so: I have Pd-0.49-1 installed and working. I went
>>> to 'Find externals', searched for 'gem' and installed:
>>> 
>>> Gem/0.94~pre1 (deken-archive for macOS Intel/64bit)
>>> Uploaded by zmoelnig @ 2018-12-23 18:17:43
>> 
>> That's the correct thing to do.
>> 
>>> This seems to have put some stuff into the Pd app bundle. However,
>>> when I try to open an example, most objects don't seem to be found, eg
>>> 'gemwin… could not create'.
>> 
>> Deken (the external manager you have used through 'Find externals')
>> should have asked you if you want to add Gem to the search paths. Did
>> you say no to that? Of so, add the path manually in Preferences->Paths.
>> Did you restart Pd?
>> 
>> Open a new patch, make an Object [Gem] and keep an eye on the Pd window
>> console. Then try the examples.
>> 
>> m.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 1/26/19 7:51 PM, Max wrote:
> 
>> This seems to have put some stuff into the Pd app bundle. However,
>> when I try to open an example, most objects don't seem to be found, eg
>> 'gemwin… could not create'.

seems like you didn't load Gem.

> Deken (the external manager you have used through 'Find externals')
> should have asked you if you want to add Gem to the search paths. Did
> you say no to that? 

hopefully.
you shouldn't allow deken to automatically add search-paths.
the entire functionality was an ugly hack for Pd<0.49.

> Of so, add the path manually in Preferences->Paths.

you shouldn't need that with Gem.

what you do need to do is *load* Gem.
creating an object [declare -lib Gem] should do that trick for you.
this will also add the Gem-path to the search-paths of Pd, in order to
find all those nifty objects like [gemwin].
(if it doesn't that is a bug; but i doubt it is)

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Re: [PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread J. Simon van der Walt
Thanks, but I think I'm going to have to give up. I did a clean
reinstall, went with the default paths that were created, but still
nothing really working in gem. Tried purr data, but gem is only
supported under linux and windows, which is not an option for this
project. And my old pd-extended does not seem to be able to make a
video show fullscreen on the mac. Off to try something else! Thanks
anyway.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 18:53, Max  wrote:
>
> On 26.01.19 19:35, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:
> > I've been away from Pd for quite a while, and I see that pd-extended
> > is no longer a thing?
>
> It's no longer updated and has fallen behind. Some may say that
> Purr-Data has picked up where extended has stalled.
> http://puredata.info/downloads/Pd-L2Ork
>
> > I want to use GEM, so: I have Pd-0.49-1 installed and working. I went
> > to 'Find externals', searched for 'gem' and installed:
> >
> > Gem/0.94~pre1 (deken-archive for macOS Intel/64bit)
> >  Uploaded by zmoelnig @ 2018-12-23 18:17:43
>
> That's the correct thing to do.
>
> > This seems to have put some stuff into the Pd app bundle. However,
> > when I try to open an example, most objects don't seem to be found, eg
> > 'gemwin… could not create'.
>
> Deken (the external manager you have used through 'Find externals')
> should have asked you if you want to add Gem to the search paths. Did
> you say no to that? Of so, add the path manually in Preferences->Paths.
> Did you restart Pd?
>
> Open a new patch, make an Object [Gem] and keep an eye on the Pd window
> console. Then try the examples.
>
> m.
>
>
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Re: [PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread Max

On 26.01.19 19:35, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:

I've been away from Pd for quite a while, and I see that pd-extended
is no longer a thing?


It's no longer updated and has fallen behind. Some may say that 
Purr-Data has picked up where extended has stalled. 
http://puredata.info/downloads/Pd-L2Ork



I want to use GEM, so: I have Pd-0.49-1 installed and working. I went
to 'Find externals', searched for 'gem' and installed:

Gem/0.94~pre1 (deken-archive for macOS Intel/64bit)
 Uploaded by zmoelnig @ 2018-12-23 18:17:43


That's the correct thing to do.


This seems to have put some stuff into the Pd app bundle. However,
when I try to open an example, most objects don't seem to be found, eg
'gemwin… could not create'.


Deken (the external manager you have used through 'Find externals') 
should have asked you if you want to add Gem to the search paths. Did 
you say no to that? Of so, add the path manually in Preferences->Paths. 
Did you restart Pd?


Open a new patch, make an Object [Gem] and keep an eye on the Pd window 
console. Then try the examples.


m.



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[PD] Installing GEM on mac?

2019-01-26 Thread J. Simon van der Walt
I've been away from Pd for quite a while, and I see that pd-extended
is no longer a thing?

I want to use GEM, so: I have Pd-0.49-1 installed and working. I went
to 'Find externals', searched for 'gem' and installed:

Gem/0.94~pre1 (deken-archive for macOS Intel/64bit)
Uploaded by zmoelnig @ 2018-12-23 18:17:43

This seems to have put some stuff into the Pd app bundle. However,
when I try to open an example, most objects don't seem to be found, eg
'gemwin… could not create'.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

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Re: [PD] ugly "already connected" errors

2019-01-26 Thread Christof Ressi
I can confirm that both [iemnet/udpsend] [mrpeach/udpsend] (from Pd extended) 
close the socket on Linux but only [mrpeach/udpsend] gives a warning and sends 
a 0. I'll do a bug report.

Christof

> Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Januar 2019 um 00:15 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" 
> An: "Roman Haefeli" 
> Cc: Pd-List 
> Betreff: Re: [PD] ugly "already connected" errors
>
> > The key is that you send something between deletion
> > and recreation.
> 
> I do! 
> 
> > BTW, that's on Linux, maybe other platforms behave differently?
> 
> Could be, I'm currently on windows but I'll check on my linux and osx 
> machines.
> 
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Januar 2019 um 23:48 Uhr
> > Von: "Roman Haefeli" 
> > An: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] ugly "already connected" errors
> >
> > On Fri, 2019-01-25 at 22:44 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > > From reading a bit more about protocols, particularly about ICMP
> > > > [1], I
> > > > think what happens is that the receiving host sends a ICMP error
> > > > packet
> > > > to the sending host, telling that the destination port is
> > > > unreachable.
> > > 
> > > thanks, this might explain what happens. note, though, that this is
> > > not required behaviour for a UDP socket (and I haven't encountered
> > > this outside Pd), so I would rather make this optional (or add an
> > > option to deactivate this). The reason is that sometimes you just
> > > want to broadcast messages no matter if something is actually
> > > listening and you don't want that the sender to shut down just
> > > because the receiver is temporarily unavailable. of course you can
> > > wrap each message in a [connect( [disconnect( pair, but I think it's
> > > only an ugly workaround.
> > 
> > Yeah, I see how the current behavior is impractical. I'm just saying it
> > is probably not a bug. 
> > 
> > > > can tell that the socket of [udpsend] is closed, because when you
> > > > fire
> > > > up the listening socket again, messages sent with [udpsend] still
> > > > don't
> > > > reach their destination.
> > > 
> > > I can't confirm this. I just tested with a pair of [udpsend] and
> > > [udpreceive] (both iemlib and mrpeach) and I can change ports in
> > > [udpreceive] or delete/recreate it without [udpsend] closing its
> > > socket. only tested via localhost, though.
> > 
> > The key is that you send something between deletion and recreation.
> > Otherwise you won't trigger an ICMP response. I tested also on
> > localhost with a [udpreceive] and still get same behaviour I described.
> > BTW, that's on Linux, maybe other platforms behave differently?
> > 
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Re: [PD] IFTTT (“if this then that”) and connecting puredata to iot device like a wemo or other open source power outlet

2019-01-26 Thread RT
Julian just got it all working today.  In the process of making a full
video tutorial along with how to connect the electronics and I will post it
to youtube along with notifying the list.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 4:40 AM Julian Brooks  wrote:

> Good luck RT, please share your results:)
>
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 07:57, RT  wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys that helped a lot I plan on going with the Shelly 1 the
>> firmware can be easily flashed supports AC but also supports 12V DC and
>> 24-60V DC and has MQTT support built in.
>> https://shelly.cloud/shelly1-open-source/   It does cost more it's about
>> 10 euros but it fits my needs.
>>
>> Thanks for the help
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:24 AM michael strohmann 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A demo how to send MQTT to PD via python script:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1GyC05VXk
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 Jan 2019, at 15:06, RT  wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> I would like to connect and have Puredata control an iot device like
>>> wemo or other open source power outlet are there any examples or
>>> suggestions on where to start?
>>>
>>> I was thinking an example would be just to have Puredata turn off and on
>>> a power outlet (like a Wemo) using OSC or midi controls.  The question I
>>> have is how do I connect Puredata to a iot power outlet to do this and
>>> which open source power outlet will allow this?
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