Re: [PD] comport and/or MIDI on Tiny Core Linux

[Thomas Grill]

Hi all,
to answer the question of shutting down for TinyCoreLinux: the distro is 
read-only.
In standard configuration writes only happen explicitly, and are made 
persistent for the next boot by using a special script (filetool.sh).
best, Thomas

> Am 28.10.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Yann Seznec :
> 
> Oh my goodness, against all odds I have gotten this working! I now have the 
> comport object working on piCore. It’s hard to overstate how pleased I am, 
> thanks so much for your help.
> 
> For future generations (or, more likely, myself in the future), the steps to 
> my success were:
> - install the “compiletc.tcz” tools. Previously I had only installed gcc.tcz 
> and make.tcz, and apparently that wasn’t enough.
> - copy a m_pd.h file from elsewhere, and reference the path to that in my 
> “make” command so it looked like this: “make PDINCLUDEDIR=/path/to/file/“
> 
> And it worked! The comport object now loads in a patch without errors. I even 
> managed to get some data through from USB, though after a reboot the serial 
> port seems to have reset, so there’s more work to be done to make it stable. 
> This is major progress, though.
> 
> Antoine, as to your question:
>> I've always stuck to raspbian until now, but it's always a hassle to turn it 
>> to a read-only file system, to allow disconnecting the power without having 
>> to cleanly shut down the system. Apparently TCL could make it easier, would 
>> you confirm?
> 
> I’m probably not the best person to answer this, as to be honest I’ve never 
> bothered with “cleanly” shutting down the system when running something on a 
> Raspberry Pi. I always just unplug it, and as far as I know it’s never caused 
> me any issues…however I’m happy to admit that this was poor practice. I would 
> imagine that TCL is better with this regard, since as far as I understand as 
> little is written permanently to disk as possible. However I’m really not 
> very educated on the matter - my primary desire to use TCL was to get a 
> shorter startup time and a generally cleaner setup!
> 
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Antoine Rousseau  wrote:
>> 
>> If you cannot find the m_pd.h in your system, you can always import it from 
>> another one into the comport (or whatever) directory.
>> 
>> Anyway thanks for sharing information about Pd + tiny core linux, I would 
>> love to find some time soon for experimenting on this too;
>> I've always stuck to raspbian until now, but it's always a hassle to turn it 
>> to a read-only file system, to allow disconnecting the power without having 
>> to cleanly shut down the system. Apparently TCL could make it easier, would 
>> you confirm?
>> 
>> 
>> Le mar. 27 oct. 2020 à 21:01, Giulio Moro via Pd-list  
>> a écrit :
>> Each Makefile has a different way of looking for the path where m_pd.h, and 
>> where it is located on your system depends on how you installed Pd ...
>> normally `find /usr/include /usr/local/include -name m_pd.h` will tell you 
>> where the file is. Once you know where it is, you can inspect the `Makefile` 
>> to figure out which way to pass this information to it.
>> Normally this boils down to passing some options to `make`, such as 
>> PDINCLUDEDIR=/path/to/containing/folder or CFLAGS="-DPD 
>> -I/path/to/containing/folder" or others, depending on the content of the 
>> Makefile (these are two real-world examples). (or you can just hardcode the 
>> path in the Makefile next to where you see a `-I/somepath `, add ` 
>> -I/path/to/containing/folder` and see if it works.
>> 
>> A link to the source files would be useful if you need further help.
>> 
>> 
>> Yann Seznec wrote on 27/10/2020 19:34:
>> > OK interesting - with the verbose flag on I can see that it is finding 
>> > comport.pd_linux, but it says “/lib/libc.so.6: version ‘GLIBC_2.27’ not 
>> > found (required by /home/tc/comport_test/comport.pd_linux)”
>> >
>> > I assume that means that it needs to be compiled for the board 
>> > specifically, as you mention.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately when I try to compile it on the board I get yet another, 
>> > different error. In that case it says “fatal error: m_pd.h: No such file 
>> > or directory”.
>> >
>> > I think I understand that it’s looking for where Pd is installed, but I 
>> > can’t seem to find where that file is in Tiny Core Linux.
>> >
>> > Thanks Giuilio!
>> >
>> >> On Oct 27, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Giulio Moro  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's a Linux build, but is it an ARM build compatible with the 
>> >> architecture in use?
>> >> Try `file /path/to/comport.ld_linux` and make sure you get the same 
>> >> result as you'd get for any externals that actually work. You can run 
>> >> `Pd` with the verbose flag and that should print some extra info about 
>> >> the paths it is attempting to open. In fairness, it should be pretty 
>> >> straightforward to just build it from source on the board, which 
>> >> guarantees you get the correct binary.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yann Seznec wrote on 27/10/2020 19:01:
>> >>> Hello 

Re: [PD] ISO works combining PD and sculpture

[Mikael . Fernstrom]

Here is one of my projects from a few years ago

https://softday.ie/nlutds/background.html

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here are 3 I did:

Triangulation
Methuselah's Muse
Strange Attractor

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:18 PM Julian Brooks 
mailto:jbee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

As well as the treasure trove of pieces above...
Some good stuff here:
https://vimeo.com/search?q=cyrille+henry



On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 21:31, Thomas Grill 
mailto:g...@g.org>> wrote:
Hi,
all of our installations are Pd-based, some are sculptural:
https://rottingsounds.org/threads/auditorium/
best, Thomas

> Am 26.10.2020 um 20:54 schrieb bbob 
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> for my students, I'm looking for examples of work that combines PD and 
> sculpture (or installations)... i've got a few of the obvious 
> pd-sequencer-triggering-drum-solenoids to show them, what else?  links to 
> artist sites &/or videos appreciated.
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Re: [PD] ISO works combining PD and sculpture

[Darren Kelly]

Congrats! Well done.

> On 29 Oct 2020, at 8:19 pm, Chris Chronopoulos  
> wrote:
> 
> here are 3 I did:
> 
> Triangulation 
> Methuselah's Muse 
> Strange Attractor 
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Re: [PD] ISO works combining PD and sculpture

[enrike]

a colleague did this (kind of) installation in Madrid a couple of years 
ago. I helped with some parts of PD


http://josurekalde.com/obra/parlamento-endel-tiempo/

enrike

20/10/28 22:28(e)an, Thomas Grill igorleak idatzi zuen:

Hi,
all of our installations are Pd-based, some are sculptural:
https://rottingsounds.org/threads/auditorium/
best, Thomas


Am 26.10.2020 um 20:54 schrieb bbob :

for my students, I'm looking for examples of work that combines PD and sculpture 
(or installations)... i've got a few of the obvious 
pd-sequencer-triggering-drum-solenoids to show them, what else?  links to artist 
sites &/or videos appreciated.
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Re: [PD] ISO works combining PD and sculpture

[Andy Farnell]

Sometimes I lend a hand to my neighbor Guy, he's
big into Pd, installation and interactive sculpture, 
but I don't think he's on this list.

http://guydowsett.com/

andy
 

> > Am 26.10.2020 um 20:54 schrieb bbob :
> > 
> > for my students, I'm looking for examples of work that combines PD and 
> > sculpture (or installations)... i've got a few of the obvious 
> > pd-sequencer-triggering-drum-solenoids to show them, what else?  links to 
> > artist sites &/or videos appreciated. 
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Re: [PD] ISO works combining PD and sculpture

[Chris Chronopoulos]

here are 3 I did:

Triangulation 
Methuselah's Muse 
Strange Attractor 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:18 PM Julian Brooks  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As well as the treasure trove of pieces above...
> Some good stuff here:
> https://vimeo.com/search?q=cyrille+henry
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 21:31, Thomas Grill  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> all of our installations are Pd-based, some are sculptural:
>> https://rottingsounds.org/threads/auditorium/
>> best, Thomas
>>
>> > Am 26.10.2020 um 20:54 schrieb bbob :
>> >
>> > for my students, I'm looking for examples of work that combines PD and
>> sculpture (or installations)... i've got a few of the obvious
>> pd-sequencer-triggering-drum-solenoids to show them, what else?  links to
>> artist sites &/or videos appreciated.
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