[PD] Purr-Data running in the browser

[Christof Ressi]

Hi,

I'm reposting the following FB post by Ico Bukvic because I think it is 
very exciting:



Revolution in the making...
An alpha version of a fully embedded Pd-L2Ork 2.x, a.k.a. Purr-Data 
running inside the Chrome web browser, including the support for 
third-party externals (to the extent that the current browser 
supports, e.g. 3D Gem objects are not yet supported).
Special thanks to the Google Summer of Code participants Zack Lee, 
Hugo Carvalo, and Guillem Bartrina Moreno for some truly fantastic 
work! Stay tuned for more exciting updates soon!

L2Ork: Virginia Tech Linux Laptop Orchestra
 
#pdl2ork 



Article on CDM: 
https://cdm.link/2020/10/pure-data-is-running-in-the-browser-for-free-web-based-sound-patching/?fbclid=IwAR37aB_T5C6tTifCHnq7W9ToOEYUqeT1XXEE6VtGDP6vrbvETdixgO52wEQ 



Demo: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVU-tz8Wxl4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2wkOKJMzJ3gMKSkdUDv-c50XlaonXufmEmlG-vJ6KaNBNkL4Jna_vOlEg 



About Purr-Data: https://agraef.github.io/purr-data/ 



About L2Ork: http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu/main/ 

---

Note that Claude Heiland-Allen has already been working on compiling 
libpd (without GUI) to WASM via Emscripten https://mathr.co.uk/empd/ 



---

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig)

[Dan Wilcox]

I was also hoping that would help.

Ricky, then we need more info:

* What's the machine?
* What audio devices do you have?
* Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
* Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy 
tab for the Microphone?
* Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and 
restarting Pd?

I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for 
use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.

Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be 
unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800
> From: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>>
> To: Ricky Graham  >
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m
>   zm??lnig)
> Message-ID: <20201103215245.ga578...@ucsd.edu 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist
> would take care of that.
> 
> It has something to do with entitlements I think
> 
> M
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
>> Hi, Miller.
>> 
>> I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error 
>> opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately 
>> this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. 
>> Anything else I could/should try?
>> 
>> Ricky


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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Dan Wilcox]

(moving the previous email back to this thread from the Pd-0.51-test5 release 
thread)

I was also hoping that setting the security entitlements explicitly would help.

Ricky, then we need more info:

* What's the machine?
* What audio devices do you have?
* Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
* Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy 
tab for the Microphone?
* Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and 
restarting Pd?

I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for 
use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.

Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be 
unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.

---

Also, can yon  run the pd core on the command line to see any prints from 
Portaudio:

* right click on the Pd-###.app and choose Show package contents
* navigate to Contents/Resources/bin
* double click pd

This will start the core with a Terminal window.

---

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Ok, merged into the develop branch.
> 
> In looking through the Apple entitlements docs, there may be a new key to 
> allow sending.recieving multicast, but that's not something until macOS 11+. 
> I left it out for now as it's still a developer key and not finalized yet.
> 


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig)

[Ricky Graham]

Hi Dan.

Thanks for your help.

MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I do 
have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK.
Built-in audio input and output. 
No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other 
applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there.
No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.

I hope this helps.

Ricky

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> I was also hoping that would help.
> 
> Ricky, then we need more info:
> 
> * What's the machine?
> * What audio devices do you have?
> * Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
> * Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's 
> Privacy tab for the Microphone?
> * Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, 
> and restarting Pd?
> 
> I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for 
> use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
> 
> Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may 
> be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800
>> From: Miller Puckette 
>> To: Ricky Graham 
>> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
>> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m
>>  zm??lnig)
>> Message-ID: <20201103215245.ga578...@ucsd.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist
>> would take care of that.
>> 
>> It has something to do with entitlements I think
>> 
>> M
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
>>> Hi, Miller.
>>> 
>>> I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error 
>>> opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately 
>>> this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. 
>>> Anything else I could/should try?
>>> 
>>> Ricky
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
> 
> 
> 




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[PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken 
externals finder.


   https://deken.puredata.info/

highlights:
- you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite 
browser. https://deken.puredata.info/
  - as a bonus you can also see which objects a library contains 
(provided this information was uploaded)
- the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the 
search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) rather 
than up to 24 hours. this is true for both the web-frontend and the 
"Find externals" menu in Pd.


as always, i hope i didn't break anything (esp. with older versions of 
the deken-plugin).

if i did, please don't hesitate to complain.

gfdsmt
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig)

[Dan Wilcox]

Can you try resetting the Microphone permissions again then starting Pd?

In Terminal run:

tccutil reset Microphone

On my 10.14 system, running that clears the Microphone privacy list and I see a 
popup requesting mic access when toggling on dsp. (Unfortunately with the wrong 
info string, although that's a different issue.)

I'm wondering if this is a result of the system registering the GUI asking for 
permissions but the core is what really needs it, so there is a mismatch as 
both have different bund ids, ie. org.puredata.pd & org.puredata.pd.pd-gui. The 
system uses the bundle id when registering th app in the privacy list.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ricky Graham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
> I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I do 
> have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK.
> Built-in audio input and output. 
> No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other 
> applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there.
> No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Ricky
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>> 
>> I was also hoping that would help.
>> 
>> Ricky, then we need more info:
>> 
>> * What's the machine?
>> * What audio devices do you have?
>> * Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
>> * Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's 
>> Privacy tab for the Microphone?
>> * Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, 
>> and restarting Pd?
>> 
>> I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for 
>> use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
>> 
>> Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may 
>> be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>>> 
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800
>>> From: Miller Puckette 
>>> To: Ricky Graham 
>>> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
>>> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m
>>> zm??lnig)
>>> Message-ID: <20201103215245.ga578...@ucsd.edu>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist
>>> would take care of that.
>>> 
>>> It has something to do with entitlements I think
>>> 
>>> M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
 Hi, Miller.
 
 I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error 
 opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately 
 this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. 
 Anything else I could/should try?
 
 Ricky
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika
>> danomatika.com
>> robotcowboy.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig)

[Ricky Graham]

Hi Dan,

I just did that and loaded Pd. Sadly, Pd does not ask for permission to the mic 
but it does ask for permission to access my Documents folder. Same error when I 
switch on DSP.

Should I try deleting all Pd plists in existence?

Ricky

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Can you try resetting the Microphone permissions again then starting Pd?
> 
> In Terminal run:
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone
> 
> On my 10.14 system, running that clears the Microphone privacy list and I see 
> a popup requesting mic access when toggling on dsp. (Unfortunately with the 
> wrong info string, although that's a different issue.)
> 
> I'm wondering if this is a result of the system registering the GUI asking 
> for permissions but the core is what really needs it, so there is a mismatch 
> as both have different bund ids, ie. org.puredata.pd & 
> org.puredata.pd.pd-gui. The system uses the bundle id when registering th app 
> in the privacy list.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ricky Graham > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dan.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
>> I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I 
>> do have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK.
>> Built-in audio input and output. 
>> No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other 
>> applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there.
>> No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Ricky
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was also hoping that would help.
>>> 
>>> Ricky, then we need more info:
>>> 
>>> * What's the machine?
>>> * What audio devices do you have?
>>> * Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
>>> * Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's 
>>> Privacy tab for the Microphone?
>>> * Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, 
>>> and restarting Pd?
>>> 
>>> I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out 
>>> for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
>>> 
>>> Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this 
>>> may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
  wrote:
 
 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800
 From: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>>
 To: Ricky Graham >>> >
 Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
 Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m
zm??lnig)
 Message-ID: <20201103215245.ga578...@ucsd.edu 
 >
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist
 would take care of that.
 
 It has something to do with entitlements I think
 
 M
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
> Hi, Miller.
> 
> I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error 
> opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately 
> this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. 
> Anything else I could/should try?
> 
> Ricky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika
>>> danomatika.com 
>>> robotcowboy.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PD] Purr-Data running in the browser

[Iain Duncan]

I agree this is exciting. In the browser is a wonderful gateway for people
to try things out with very little friction. BTW, we recently managed to
get S7 scheme running in WASM too with very little patching required, so
making Scheme for Pure Data run in the browser will also be possible.

iain

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 1:13 AM Christof Ressi 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm reposting the following FB post by Ico Bukvic because I think it is
> very exciting:
>
> Revolution in the making...
> An alpha version of a fully embedded Pd-L2Ork 2.x, a.k.a. Purr-Data
> running inside the Chrome web browser, including the support for
> third-party externals (to the extent that the current browser supports,
> e.g. 3D Gem objects are not yet supported).
> Special thanks to the Google Summer of Code participants Zack Lee, Hugo
> Carvalo, and Guillem Bartrina Moreno for some truly fantastic work! Stay
> tuned for more exciting updates soon!
> L2Ork: Virginia Tech Linux Laptop Orchestra
>
> 
> #pdl2ork
> 
>
> Article on CDM:
> https://cdm.link/2020/10/pure-data-is-running-in-the-browser-for-free-web-based-sound-patching/?fbclid=IwAR37aB_T5C6tTifCHnq7W9ToOEYUqeT1XXEE6VtGDP6vrbvETdixgO52wEQ
>
> Demo:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVU-tz8Wxl4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2wkOKJMzJ3gMKSkdUDv-c50XlaonXufmEmlG-vJ6KaNBNkL4Jna_vOlEg
>
> About Purr-Data: https://agraef.github.io/purr-data/
>
> About L2Ork: http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu/main/
>
> ---
>
> Note that Claude Heiland-Allen has already been working on compiling libpd
> (without GUI) to WASM via Emscripten https://mathr.co.uk/empd/
>
> ---
>
> Christof
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig)

[Dan Wilcox]

The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for 
permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the 
existing permissions state via:

rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC

then rebooting:

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
 


Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?

tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui

tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd

For me, running either of these results in

tccutil: No such bundle identifier

which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions 
state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these 
days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Ricky Graham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> I just did that and loaded Pd. Sadly, Pd does not ask for permission to the 
> mic but it does ask for permission to access my Documents folder. Same error 
> when I switch on DSP.
> 
> Should I try deleting all Pd plists in existence?
> 
> Ricky
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Can you try resetting the Microphone permissions again then starting Pd?
>> 
>> In Terminal run:
>> 
>> tccutil reset Microphone
>> 
>> On my 10.14 system, running that clears the Microphone privacy list and I 
>> see a popup requesting mic access when toggling on dsp. (Unfortunately with 
>> the wrong info string, although that's a different issue.)
>> 
>> I'm wondering if this is a result of the system registering the GUI asking 
>> for permissions but the core is what really needs it, so there is a mismatch 
>> as both have different bund ids, ie. org.puredata.pd & 
>> org.puredata.pd.pd-gui. The system uses the bundle id when registering th 
>> app in the privacy list.
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ricky Graham >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dan.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
>>> I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I 
>>> do have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK.
>>> Built-in audio input and output. 
>>> No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other 
>>> applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there.
>>> No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Ricky
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox >>> > wrote:
 
 I was also hoping that would help.
 
 Ricky, then we need more info:
 
 * What's the machine?
 * What audio devices do you have?
 * Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
 * Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's 
 Privacy tab for the Microphone?
 * Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, 
 and restarting Pd?
 
 I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out 
 for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
 
 Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this 
 may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
>  wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800
> From: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>>
> To: Ricky Graham  >
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m
>   zm??lnig)
> Message-ID: <20201103215245.ga578...@ucsd.edu 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist
> would take care of that.
> 
> It has something to do with entitlements I think
> 
> M
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
>> Hi, Miller.
>> 
>> I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the 
>> error opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but 
>> unfortunately this error persists with your new test build on macOS 
>> Catalina 10.15.7. Anything else I could/should try?
>> 
>> Ricky
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com 
 robotcowboy.com 
 
 
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com 

Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Iain Duncan]

That sounds fantastic! the search in the browser feature is a great idea.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 7:13 AM IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:

> as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken
> externals finder.
>
> https://deken.puredata.info/
>
> highlights:
> - you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite
> browser. https://deken.puredata.info/
>- as a bonus you can also see which objects a library contains
> (provided this information was uploaded)
> - the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the
> search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) rather
> than up to 24 hours. this is true for both the web-frontend and the
> "Find externals" menu in Pd.
>
> as always, i hope i didn't break anything (esp. with older versions of
> the deken-plugin).
> if i did, please don't hesitate to complain.
>
> gfdsmt
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Mario Buoninfante]

one thing I noticed, and I'm just curious not a criticism at all, it seems
you can't find abstractions, only objects that are part of a library (I
know that's what the label says there :) ).
Is that intentional? would it be possible to include them as well?

Cheers,
Mario

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 15:46, Mario Buoninfante 
wrote:

> That is just amazing!
> Thanks for this
>
> Cheers,
> Mario
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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 11/4/20 4:55 PM, Mario Buoninfante wrote:

one thing I noticed, and I'm just curious not a criticism at all, it seems
you can't find abstractions, only objects that are part of a library (I
know that's what the label says there :) ).
Is that intentional? would it be possible to include them as well?


i'm not sure i understand the question.

obviously, deken can only ever find objects  that are part of a library 
(regardless of whether they are implemented as abstractions of binary 
"externals").


whether deken find objects, solely depends on whether the uploader 
decided to upload an objects-list file (*.dek.txt).


e.g. chris' "ws" library contains a single abstraction 
([websocket-server]) and it is found just fine:

  http://localhost:8000/search?objects=websocket

up until now, the object-list was kind of underused (although searching 
for an object-name via "Find externals..." will return all libraries 
containing such an object), which probably explains why many packages 
lack it.


fgmdasr
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 11/4/20 5:09 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

On 11/4/20 4:55 PM, Mario Buoninfante wrote:
one thing I noticed, and I'm just curious not a criticism at all, it 
seems

you can't find abstractions, only objects that are part of a library (I
know that's what the label says there :) ).
Is that intentional? would it be possible to include them as well?


i'm not sure i understand the question.

obviously, deken can only ever find objects  that are part of a library 
(regardless of whether they are implemented as abstractions of binary 
"externals").


whether deken find objects, solely depends on whether the uploader 
decided to upload an objects-list file (*.dek.txt).


e.g. chris' "ws" library contains a single abstraction 
([websocket-server]) and it is found just fine:

   http://localhost:8000/search?objects=websocket


that link should of course read:
  https://deken.puredata.info/search?objects=websock


gf,dasr
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Mario Buoninfante]

That is just amazing!
Thanks for this

Cheers,
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[PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Mario Buoninfante]

"whether deken find objects, solely depends on whether the uploader
decided to upload an objects-list file (*.dek.txt)."

I think that answers my question :)

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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Dan Wilcox]

Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in 
the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at 
least the tool doesn't recognize it,

Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you 
nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only 
report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to 
your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Yields:
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> 
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
> Yields:
> tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t 
> be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
> 
> Ricky
> 
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>> 
>> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for 
>> permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke 
>> the existing permissions state via:
>> 
>>rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
>> 
>> then rebooting:
>> 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
>> 
>> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
>> 
>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> 
>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>> 
>> For me, running either of these results in
>> 
>>tccutil: No such bundle identifier
>> 
>> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions 
>> state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of 
>> these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
> 


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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Ricky Graham]

Hi Dan,

tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
Yields:
Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui


tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
Yields:
tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be 
completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)

Ricky


> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for 
> permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the 
> existing permissions state via:
> 
> rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
> 
> then rebooting:
> 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
> 
> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
> 
> For me, running either of these results in
> 
> tccutil: No such bundle identifier
> 
> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions 
> state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of 
> these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...




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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Ricky Graham]

HI Dan,

Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request 
pertaining to my Documents folder. 

I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a 
crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.

Ricky

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set 
> in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at 
> least the tool doesn't recognize it,
> 
> Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you 
> nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and 
> only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something 
> specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dan,
>> 
>> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Yields:
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> 
>> 
>> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>> Yields:
>> tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t 
>> be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
>> 
>> Ricky
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for 
>>> permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke 
>>> the existing permissions state via:
>>> 
>>>rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
>>> 
>>> then rebooting:
>>> 
>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
>>> 
>>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> 
>>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>>> 
>>> For me, running either of these results in
>>> 
>>>tccutil: No such bundle identifier
>>> 
>>> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the 
>>> permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should 
>>> update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new 
>>> computer...
>> 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Dan Wilcox]

Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & 
forth in a bug issue there.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham  wrote:
> 
> HI Dan,
> 
> Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request 
> pertaining to my Documents folder. 
> 
> I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a 
> crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
> 
> Ricky
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set 
>> in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or 
>> at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
>> 
>> Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you 
>> nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and 
>> only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something 
>> specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to 
>> everyone.
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dan,
>>> 
>>> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> Yields:
>>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> 
>>> 
>>> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>>> Yields:
>>> tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation 
>>> couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
>>> 
>>> Ricky
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox >>> > wrote:
 
 The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked 
 for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can 
 nuke the existing permissions state via:
 
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
 
 then rebooting:
 
 https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
  
 
 
 Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
 
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
 
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
 
 For me, running either of these results in
 
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
 
 which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the 
 permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should 
 update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a 
 new computer...
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com 
>> robotcowboy.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Ricky Graham]

Yes, let’s handle this on Github.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & 
> forth in a bug issue there.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham > > wrote:
>> 
>> HI Dan,
>> 
>> Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request 
>> pertaining to my Documents folder. 
>> 
>> I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a 
>> crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
>> 
>> Ricky
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is 
>>> set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, 
>>> or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
>>> 
>>> Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can 
>>> you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first 
>>> and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something 
>>> specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to 
>>> everyone.
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Dan,
 
 tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
 Yields:
 Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
 Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
 Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
 Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
 
 
 tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
 Yields:
 tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation 
 couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
 
 Ricky
 
 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox  > wrote:
> 
> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked 
> for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can 
> nuke the existing permissions state via:
> 
>rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
> 
> then rebooting:
> 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
>  
> 
> 
> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
> 
>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> 
>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
> 
> For me, running either of these results in
> 
>tccutil: No such bundle identifier
> 
> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the 
> permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should 
> update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a 
> new computer...
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika 
>>> danomatika.com 
>>> robotcowboy.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Dan Wilcox]

You can open an issue with your original text and we can paste the relevant 
parts of this thread there.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ricky Graham  wrote:
> 
> Yes, let’s handle this on Github.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & 
>> forth in a bug issue there.
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI Dan,
>>> 
>>> Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request 
>>> pertaining to my Documents folder. 
>>> 
>>> I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields 
>>> a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
>>> 
>>> Ricky
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is 
 set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 
 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
 
 Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can 
 you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first 
 and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be 
 something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that 
 happens to everyone.
 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Yields:
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> 
> 
> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
> Yields:
> tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation 
> couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
> 
> Ricky
> 
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked 
>> for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can 
>> nuke the existing permissions state via:
>> 
>>rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
>> 
>> then rebooting:
>> 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
>> 
>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> 
>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>> 
>> For me, running either of these results in
>> 
>>tccutil: No such bundle identifier
>> 
>> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the 
>> permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should 
>> update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a 
>> new computer...
> 
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika 
 danomatika.com 
 robotcowboy.com 
 
 
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com 
>> robotcowboy.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Antoine Rousseau]

I say: wow!



Le mer. 4 nov. 2020 à 16:20, Iain Duncan  a
écrit :

> That sounds fantastic! the search in the browser feature is a great idea.
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 7:13 AM IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> wrote:
>
>> as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken
>> externals finder.
>>
>> https://deken.puredata.info/
>>
>> highlights:
>> - you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite
>> browser. https://deken.puredata.info/
>>- as a bonus you can also see which objects a library contains
>> (provided this information was uploaded)
>> - the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the
>> search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) rather
>> than up to 24 hours. this is true for both the web-frontend and the
>> "Find externals" menu in Pd.
>>
>> as always, i hope i didn't break anything (esp. with older versions of
>> the deken-plugin).
>> if i did, please don't hesitate to complain.
>>
>> gfdsmt
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

[Ricky Graham]

Issue has now been opened on Github. I tried to be as detailed a possible to 
save you some work.

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> You can open an issue with your original text and we can paste the relevant 
> parts of this thread there.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ricky Graham > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, let’s handle this on Github.
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back 
>>> & forth in a bug issue there.
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham >>> > wrote:
 
 HI Dan,
 
 Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request 
 pertaining to my Documents folder. 
 
 I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields 
 a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
 
 Ricky
 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is 
> set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 
> 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
> 
> Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can 
> you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the 
> first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be 
> something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that 
> happens to everyone.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dan,
>> 
>> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Yields:
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>> 
>> 
>> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>> Yields:
>> tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation 
>> couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
>> 
>> Ricky
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked 
>>> for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you 
>>> can nuke the existing permissions state via:
>>> 
>>>rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
>>> 
>>> then rebooting:
>>> 
>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
>>> 
>>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
>>> 
>>>tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
>>> 
>>> For me, running either of these results in
>>> 
>>>tccutil: No such bundle identifier
>>> 
>>> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the 
>>> permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should 
>>> update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a 
>>> new computer...
>> 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika 
>>> danomatika.com 
>>> robotcowboy.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em qua., 4 de nov. de 2020 às 12:15, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
escreveu:

> as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken
> externals finder.
>
> https://deken.puredata.info/
>
> highlights:
> - you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite
> browser. https://deken.puredata.info/
>- as a bonus you can also see which objects a library contains
> (provided this information was uploaded)
> - the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the
> search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) rather
> than up to 24 hours. this is true for both the web-frontend and the
> "Find externals" menu in Pd.
>

thanks, I've noticed this as I'm updating my library today. That's awesome!
Thanks!
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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Fede Camara Halac]

Indeed, this feels good!! Thanks, IOhannes!


fdch.github.io

> On Nov 4, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Antoine Rousseau  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I say: wow!
> 
> 
> 
>> Le mer. 4 nov. 2020 à 16:20, Iain Duncan  a écrit 
>> :
>> That sounds fantastic! the search in the browser feature is a great idea.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 7:13 AM IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:
>>> as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken 
>>> externals finder.
>>> 
>>> https://deken.puredata.info/
>>> 
>>> highlights:
>>> - you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite 
>>> browser. https://deken.puredata.info/
>>>- as a bonus you can also see which objects a library contains 
>>> (provided this information was uploaded)
>>> - the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the 
>>> search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) rather 
>>> than up to 24 hours. this is true for both the web-frontend and the 
>>> "Find externals" menu in Pd.
>>> 
>>> as always, i hope i didn't break anything (esp. with older versions of 
>>> the deken-plugin).
>>> if i did, please don't hesitate to complain.
>>> 
>>> gfdsmt
>>> IOhannes
>>> 
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Re: [PD] Purr-Data running in the browser

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

Hi Christof,
Thanks for reposting about this. It was a gargantuan undertaking, and I am 
still amazed at what Zack and Hugo were able to achieve over the summer.
Zack has a nice set of build instructions that seem to be working pretty well. 
The next step is hooking that in to the gitlab CI system so we can upload a 
publicly available rolling version.

If anyone wants to hack on it, shoot me an email.
Best,Jonathan


   On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 4:14:40 AM EST, Christof Ressi 
 wrote:  
 
   
Hi,
 
I'm reposting the following FB post by Ico Bukvic because I think it is very 
exciting:
 
 

  Revolution in the making...   An alpha version of a fully embedded 
Pd-L2Ork 2.x, a.k.a. Purr-Data running inside the Chrome web browser, including 
the support for third-party externals (to the extent that the current browser 
supports, e.g. 3D Gem objects are not yet supported).   Special thanks to the 
Google Summer of Code participants Zack Lee, Hugo Carvalo, and Guillem Bartrina 
Moreno for some truly fantastic work! Stay tuned for more exciting updates 
soon!L2Ork: Virginia Tech Linux Laptop Orchestra  #pdl2ork  
 
Article on CDM: 
https://cdm.link/2020/10/pure-data-is-running-in-the-browser-for-free-web-based-sound-patching/?fbclid=IwAR37aB_T5C6tTifCHnq7W9ToOEYUqeT1XXEE6VtGDP6vrbvETdixgO52wEQ
 
 
Demo: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVU-tz8Wxl4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2wkOKJMzJ3gMKSkdUDv-c50XlaonXufmEmlG-vJ6KaNBNkL4Jna_vOlEg
 
About Purr-Data: https://agraef.github.io/purr-data/
 
 
About L2Ork: http://l2ork.icat.vt.edu/main/
 
---
 
Note that Claude Heiland-Allen has already been working on compiling libpd 
(without GUI) to WASM via Emscripten https://mathr.co.uk/empd/
 
 
---
 
Christof
 
 

 
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Re: [PD] compiling extenrals for mac 32 bits

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 10/20/20 10:36 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:

Ideally, I'd also have to
repack and reupload earlier 0.5-x versions, as I did it wrong and didn't
upload the linux capital letter aliases... how would that go if it's
immutable?


simple: you wouldn't.

mfgrds
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Christof Ressi]

Yay!

- the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the 
search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) 
rather than up to 24 hours. 

+1000

Christof

On 04.11.2020 16:12, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the 
deken externals finder.


   https://deken.puredata.info/

highlights:
- you can now search for externals (and objects) in your favourite 
browser. https://deken.puredata.info/
  - as a bonus you can also see which objects a library contains 
(provided this information was uploaded)
- the delay between uploading a package and making it available in the 
search should be "almost immediate" (as in: a couple of minutes) 
rather than up to 24 hours. this is true for both the web-frontend and 
the "Find externals" menu in Pd.


as always, i hope i didn't break anything (esp. with older versions of 
the deken-plugin).

if i did, please don't hesitate to complain.

gfdsmt
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] announce: deken.puredata.info

[Chris McCormick]

On 4/11/20 11:12 pm, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
as of today, i have launched a new version of the backend for the deken 
externals finder.


    https://deken.puredata.info/

[such feature]



Awesome! Thank you for your efforts.

Chris.


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