Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Simon Iten]

Hi Luca,

Interesting! I am away from my M1 for quite a while, might be able to do
some testing in a few weeks. Will [hidraw] also support writing to the
device? There are some devices that need 2 way communication to
enable/disable functions and states.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2022, 13:00 Lucas Cordiviola,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Next week or so i'll hopefully release hidraw. An object that reads raw
> bytes from HIDs.
>
> Can anyone test this builds on a mac M1 with arm64 or a Monterey x64 intel?
>
>  https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/Rk7HRq67eCqF7kQ
>
> i'm not sure if i did correctly the code sign. (the object seems to work
> on my monterey VM).
>
> If anyone (not on macOS) is willing to test the above link also has
> Linux and Windows binaries.
>
> feedback is welcomed.
>
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Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine

[alfonso santimone]

Hi Lucas. This Is great news! Is this new version multi-instance capable
and can use any external in the VST? Any plan for a VST3 and CLAP version?
thanks for your work adding another option beside Camomile and PlugData!

Il mar 4 ott 2022, 11:43 Lucas Cordiviola  ha
scritto:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Try with this new pdvst-0.52.
>
>  https://git.nubegris.com.ar/lucarda/pdvst-0.52/releases
>
> I think you already know how to use it.
>
> - get Pd-0.52
> - copy "pdvst-0.52-v0.1/pd-scheduler64/vstschedlib.dll" to "your-Pd/bin"
> - then adjust the .pdv files as needed.
>
> (later i need to do a proper README)
>
> ---
>
> Let me know if it worked for you (it works for me via
> https://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm)
>
>
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> On 04/10/2022 03:54, Chris McCormick wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Back in the day I used to run Modplug Tracker (OpenMPT) on Wine and
> > have Pd as a VST via the pdvst~ plugin. These days when I try this I
> > get crashes and segfaults. I have tried several of the new plugins but
> > none of them work except Camomile which has a bug where it won't find
> > the patch due to weird paths.
> >
> > I know it's a long shot but does anybody have a working setup with Pd
> > as a VST under Wine and can help?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Chris.
> >
>
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Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]

[Christof Ressi]

Hi Oliver,

there have been some regressions in Pd 0.52 concerning [readsf~] and 
[writesf~] that should be fixed with 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1672.


Can you try latest master and see if your problem persists?

Cheers,

Christof

On 05.10.2022 22:01, Dan Wilcox wrote:

Howdy Oliver,

I suggest opening an issue on Github. If this was working with 0.51, 
then my sound file overhaul did not change this but perhaps some 
additional regression fixes broke it in 0.52.



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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 21:36:19 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]
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Peter P. wrote:

Oliver,

can't really comment on your error, but am wondering why you might want
to trigger each dsp block separately, especially opening the file from
hard disk for each dsp block over and over again?


i'm using this method quite often for sync purposes (video-synching
mostly, but also sending synch messages with udp etc.), since readsf~
doesn't output it's playback position.

it's also nice, to scratch around in the the audio file without having
to load it into RAM.

As i said before,this method (as strange as it may seem) used to work
without any problem on basically any system i used (even on RPIs and old
slow netbooks) up until PD 0.52.

best

Oliver



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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Hi Simon,

Interesting! I am away from my M1 for quite a while, might be able to 
do some testing in a few weeks.



Thanks, i need this confirmation.


Will [hidraw] also support writing to the device? There are some 
devices that need 2 way communication to enable/disable functions and 
states.



Well from the wrapped hidapi (https://github.com/libusb/hidapi) that the 
object uses is totally easy to write to the device but i'm scared about 
it. They warm that writing (incorrect values i suppose) can brick the 
device.


I only have an cheap USB ps2 compatible joystick to test. I don't know 
yet how to start. In theory I can have a "write" method alla:


[write 1 0 255 255 127 0(
|
[hidraw]

but i'm unsure what to write.

Also I read in https://github.com/libusb/hidapi/issues/167 that certain 
things like making the joystick rumble is not possible directly via hidapi.


I'll have to dig more may be for version 0.2.0.

Any feature request, discussion or knowledge can continue on 
https://github.com/Lucarda/pd-hidraw


PS: as of v0.1.0 i'm totally happy that is so easy an cheap to hack an 
usb joystick an make an 12 foot-switch pedal. Or use the joystick as a 
modulation wheel, etc. :)


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On 06/10/2022 04:31, Simon Iten wrote:

Hi Luca,

Interesting! I am away from my M1 for quite a while, might be able to 
do some testing in a few weeks. Will [hidraw] also support writing to 
the device? There are some devices that need 2 way communication to 
enable/disable functions and states.


On Wed, 5 Oct 2022, 13:00 Lucas Cordiviola,  wrote:

Hi all,

Next week or so i'll hopefully release hidraw. An object that
reads raw
bytes from HIDs.

Can anyone test this builds on a mac M1 with arm64 or a Monterey
x64 intel?

https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/Rk7HRq67eCqF7kQ

i'm not sure if i did correctly the code sign. (the object seems
to work
on my monterey VM).

If anyone (not on macOS) is willing to test the above link also has
Linux and Windows binaries.

feedback is welcomed.


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Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Hi Alfonso,


Is this new version multi-instance capable?



I think it is but i'm not sure. IIRC you can have more than one Pd in 
your DAW and they work independently of each others (no cross-talks)



and can use any external in the VST?



Yes.


Any plan for a VST3 and CLAP version?



VST3 would be nice. I'm not so much C/C++ skilled yet (also for a CLAP 
version).


PS: The previous pdvst~ stopped working since on Pd-0-52 there was an 
overhaul in the audio and scheduler. Many functions change their names 
or were wiped out. The only affected project was pdvst~ (AFAICT).
I tried to make a simple build system and start to use the newer 
functions and (yes!) it worked.


:)

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On 06/10/2022 04:44, alfonso santimone wrote:
Hi Lucas. This Is great news! Is this new version multi-instance 
capable and can use any external in the VST? Any plan for a VST3 and 
CLAP version? thanks for your work adding another option beside 
Camomile and PlugData!


Il mar 4 ott 2022, 11:43 Lucas Cordiviola  ha 
scritto:


Hi Chris,

Try with this new pdvst-0.52.

https://git.nubegris.com.ar/lucarda/pdvst-0.52/releases

I think you already know how to use it.

- get Pd-0.52
- copy "pdvst-0.52-v0.1/pd-scheduler64/vstschedlib.dll" to
"your-Pd/bin"
- then adjust the .pdv files as needed.

(later i need to do a proper README)

---

Let me know if it worked for you (it works for me via
https://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm)


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On 04/10/2022 03:54, Chris McCormick wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Back in the day I used to run Modplug Tracker (OpenMPT) on Wine and
> have Pd as a VST via the pdvst~ plugin. These days when I try
this I
> get crashes and segfaults. I have tried several of the new
plugins but
> none of them work except Camomile which has a bug where it won't
find
> the patch due to weird paths.
>
> I know it's a long shot but does anybody have a working setup
with Pd
> as a VST under Wine and can help?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>



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Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]

[Dan Wilcox]

Howdy Oliver,

Actually, use the pure-data develop branch. I don't believe Miller has merged 
this fix into master yet.

If you are unsure about building Pd yourself, I could possibly make a test 
build tonight.

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 10:22 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 10:22:25 +0200
> From: Christof Ressi mailto:i...@christofressi.com>>
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
> Subject: Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]
> Message-ID: <93e39339-fa9a-3543-888a-b3af75c44...@christofressi.com 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> 
> Hi Oliver,
> 
> there have been some regressions in Pd 0.52 concerning [readsf~] and 
> [writesf~] that should be fixed with 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1672 
> .
> 
> Can you try latest master and see if your problem persists?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christof


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Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Is this new version multi-instance capable? 

Yes, as it opens two or more separate pd processes.

@ Lucas Cordiviola
Great to hear that you compiled pdVst to current Pd version.
I don't work anymore on Windows, so I'm happy if you can go further and  
maintain this project alive.


Cheers
Jean-Yves Gratius


Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine.eml

Subject:
Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine
From:
Lucas Cordiviola 
Date:
06/10/2022, 11:18

To:
alfonso santimone , Pd-List 




Hi Alfonso,


Is this new version multi-instance capable?



I think it is but i'm not sure. IIRC you can have more than one Pd in 
your DAW and they work independently of each others (no cross-talks)



and can use any external in the VST?



Yes.


Any plan for a VST3 and CLAP version?



VST3 would be nice. I'm not so much C/C++ skilled yet (also for a CLAP 
version).


PS: The previous pdvst~ stopped working since on Pd-0-52 there was an 
overhaul in the audio and scheduler. Many functions change their names 
or were wiped out. The only affected project was pdvst~ (AFAICT).
I tried to make a simple build system and start to use the newer 
functions and (yes!) it worked.


:)

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On 06/10/2022 04:44, alfonso santimone wrote:
Hi Lucas. This Is great news! Is this new version multi-instance 
capable and can use any external in the VST? Any plan for a VST3 and 
CLAP version? thanks for your work adding another option beside 
Camomile and PlugData!


Il mar 4 ott 2022, 11:43 Lucas Cordiviola  ha 
scritto:


    Hi Chris,

    Try with this new pdvst-0.52.

https://git.nubegris.com.ar/lucarda/pdvst-0.52/releases

    I think you already know how to use it.

    - get Pd-0.52
    - copy "pdvst-0.52-v0.1/pd-scheduler64/vstschedlib.dll" to
    "your-Pd/bin"
    - then adjust the .pdv files as needed.

    (later i need to do a proper README)

    ---

    Let me know if it worked for you (it works for me via
https://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm)


    --

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    On 04/10/2022 03:54, Chris McCormick wrote:
    > Hey all,
    >
    > Back in the day I used to run Modplug Tracker (OpenMPT) on Wine 
and

    > have Pd as a VST via the pdvst~ plugin. These days when I try
    this I
    > get crashes and segfaults. I have tried several of the new
    plugins but
    > none of them work except Camomile which has a bug where it won't
    find
    > the patch due to weird paths.
    >
    > I know it's a long shot but does anybody have a working setup
    with Pd
    > as a VST under Wine and can help?
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Chris.
    >



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[PD] faustgen~ still actively developed?

[alfonso santimone]

Hi guys, It seems that faustgen~ Is kinda adbandoned. It Is actively
updated as a Max external by Faust devel team. But i can't find any recent
Pure Data version. Is somebody working on It? thanks
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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[William Brent]

Hi Lucas - thanks for this! I just tested it on an M1 MacBook Pro under
macOS Monterey. I got the "malicious software" warning and had to go to
system prefs/security & privacy to allow the external to be run anyway, but
then it worked just fine to access my Logitech game controller.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 7:00 AM Lucas Cordiviola 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Next week or so i'll hopefully release hidraw. An object that reads raw
> bytes from HIDs.
>
> Can anyone test this builds on a mac M1 with arm64 or a Monterey x64 intel?
>
>  https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/Rk7HRq67eCqF7kQ
>
> i'm not sure if i did correctly the code sign. (the object seems to work
> on my monterey VM).
>
> If anyone (not on macOS) is willing to test the above link also has
> Linux and Windows binaries.
>
> feedback is welcomed.
>
>
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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Sebastian Lexer]

Amazing, I could only test running it on the M1 itself without any 
additional equipment, but all seems to work as expected.


After going through the 'malicious software stuff' I'm getting data 
results for devices 4-7. Ech of these report xy coordinate changes on 
the touchpad. Roughly >250 for right or up movements and <5 for left and 
down.


Would hidraw enable to get access multitouch data? Like fingerpincher on 
Max?


All best,
Sebastian

William Brent wrote on 06/10/2022 14:28:
Hi Lucas - thanks for this! I just tested it on an M1 MacBook Pro 
under macOS Monterey. I got the "malicious software" warning and had 
to go to system prefs/security & privacy to allow the external to be 
run anyway, but then it worked just fine to access my Logitech game 
controller.


On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 7:00 AM Lucas Cordiviola > wrote:


Hi all,

Next week or so i'll hopefully release hidraw. An object that
reads raw
bytes from HIDs.

Can anyone test this builds on a mac M1 with arm64 or a Monterey
x64 intel?

https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/Rk7HRq67eCqF7kQ

i'm not sure if i did correctly the code sign. (the object seems
to work
on my monterey VM).

If anyone (not on macOS) is willing to test the above link also has
Linux and Windows binaries.

feedback is welcomed.


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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Hi William,

Thanks for the test. I did an ad-hoc codesign but seems it is not 
enough. Now I signed with a self certificate:


    https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/KL3dF777TPwTkM9

I'm not sure if your mac can test this one as you already got the file 
in your white list.


If you know a way to not get false positives tests are welcomed.

(also for anyone else reading with an arm64 macOS).


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On 06/10/2022 10:28, William Brent wrote:
Hi Lucas - thanks for this! I just tested it on an M1 MacBook Pro 
under macOS Monterey. I got the "malicious software" warning and had 
to go to system prefs/security & privacy to allow the external to be 
run anyway, but then it worked just fine to access my Logitech game 
controller.


On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 7:00 AM Lucas Cordiviola 
 wrote:


Hi all,

Next week or so i'll hopefully release hidraw. An object that
reads raw
bytes from HIDs.

Can anyone test this builds on a mac M1 with arm64 or a Monterey
x64 intel?

https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/Rk7HRq67eCqF7kQ

i'm not sure if i did correctly the code sign. (the object seems
to work
on my monterey VM).

If anyone (not on macOS) is willing to test the above link also has
Linux and Windows binaries.

feedback is welcomed.


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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Dan Wilcox]

You also need to notarize binaries, not just codesign. I am actually working on 
a Makefile which automates mac-specific distribution stuff like this and I can 
send you a link once I have it finalized.

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 4:42 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 11:41:43 -0300
> From: Lucas Cordiviola mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>>
> To: William Brent mailto:william.br...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
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>   HID device current best practice?)
> Message-ID:
>   
>   
> >
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Hi William,
> 
> Thanks for the test. I did an ad-hoc codesign but seems it is not 
> enough. Now I signed with a self certificate:
> 
> ??? https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/KL3dF777TPwTkM9 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if your mac can test this one as you already got the file 
> in your white list.
> 
> If you know a way to not get false positives tests are welcomed.
> 
> (also for anyone else reading with an arm64 macOS).


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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

That would be fantastic. Please let me know when its done.


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You also need to notarize binaries, not just codesign. I am actually 
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Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 10/6/22 12:32, Dan Wilcox wrote:

Howdy Oliver,

Actually, use the pure-data develop branch. I don't believe Miller has merged 
this fix into master yet.


this one has been merged into master a few weeks ago.



If you are unsure about building Pd yourself, I could possibly make a test 
build tonight.


you can (always) get builds for the current master from


the topmost pipeline should have a "download" icon on the far right 
side, where you can pick your platform.


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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 10/6/22 17:14, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

That would be fantastic. Please let me know when its done.


and then there is 
 
which is what I use on our CI-infrastructure to codesign Pd-externals.


it's not a ready-to-use script, as it is wrapped in a YAML-file, but 
hopefully you get the idea.


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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for the test.

Would hidraw enable to get access multitouch data? Like fingerpincher 
on Max?



I doubt it but not sure. Looking at the sources of fingerincher from 
https://www.anyma.ch/2009/research/multitouch-external-for-maxmsp/ this 
looks to me as an apple exclusive device and software. I guess that 
someone with a an apple machine can port fingerpincher to Pd exclusively 
for macOS.


But what happens if you move two or more fingers in the touchpad? (you 
can get all the list of bytes in the listbox)


and afraid of saying something stupid: what happens if you create 4 
[hidraw] objects and open devices 4, 5, 6 and 7 (one per object). Do you 
get at least 4 different readings?




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On 06/10/2022 11:05, Sebastian Lexer wrote:
Amazing, I could only test running it on the M1 itself without any 
additional equipment, but all seems to work as expected.


After going through the 'malicious software stuff' I'm getting data 
results for devices 4-7. Ech of these report xy coordinate changes on 
the touchpad. Roughly >250 for right or up movements and <5 for left 
and down.


Would hidraw enable to get access multitouch data? Like fingerpincher 
on Max?


All best,
Sebastian




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Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]

[oliver]

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

On 10/6/22 12:32, Dan Wilcox wrote:

Howdy Oliver,

Actually, use the pure-data develop branch. I don't believe Miller has 
merged this fix into master yet.


this one has been merged into master a few weeks ago.



If you are unsure about building Pd yourself, I could possibly make a 
test build tonight.


you can (always) get builds for the current master from


the topmost pipeline should have a "download" icon on the far right 
side, where you can pick your platform.


Thanks a lot IOhannes !

Yes, the issue is fixed in the latest build that i downloaded


Much appreciated !

Best

Oliver



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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[hans w. koch]

hi lucas,

i just tested on mac os monterey / M1 and i still had to allow the same way as 
william.
then it worked fine (only had an external mouse to test - not very thrilling…)

thanks for the effort!

hans

> Am 06.10.2022 um 16:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola :
> 
> Hi William,
> 
> Thanks for the test. I did an ad-hoc codesign but seems it is not enough. Now 
> I signed with a self certificate:
> 
> https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/KL3dF777TPwTkM9 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if your mac can test this one as you already got the file in 
> your white list.
> 
> If you know a way to not get false positives tests are welcomed.
> 
> (also for anyone else reading with an arm64 macOS).
> 
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> On 06/10/2022 10:28, William Brent wrote:
>> Hi Lucas - thanks for this! I just tested it on an M1 MacBook Pro under 
>> macOS Monterey. I got the "malicious software" warning and had to go to 
>> system prefs/security & privacy to allow the external to be run anyway, but 
>> then it worked just fine to access my Logitech game controller.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 7:00 AM Lucas Cordiviola  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>Hi all,
>> 
>>Next week or so i'll hopefully release hidraw. An object that
>>reads raw
>>bytes from HIDs.
>> 
>>Can anyone test this builds on a mac M1 with arm64 or a Monterey
>>x64 intel?
>> 
>>https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/Rk7HRq67eCqF7kQ
>> 
>>i'm not sure if i did correctly the code sign. (the object seems
>>to work
>>on my monterey VM).
>> 
>>If anyone (not on macOS) is willing to test the above link also has
>>Linux and Windows binaries.
>> 
>>feedback is welcomed.
>> 
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Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Thanks Hans!

I thank all the M1 testers.

Seems I'll wait for Dan's makefile for the notarizing stuff. Or later 
try to update if possible my Xcode VM (as in iem-ci.yml) to be able to : 
"try to switch to the latest and greatest XCode, so we get 'altool'" and 
stuff.


M1 users please note that is not that simple (for me or you) to (build 
and) share arm64 binaries.


The worst case scenario I see from the tests is that you'll have to go 
ahead with "malicious software" warning or I simply build with an older 
VM and for intel x86_64.


Thanks again for all the testers.


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On 06/10/2022 16:06, hans w. koch wrote:

hi lucas,

i just tested on mac os monterey / M1 and i still had to allow the 
same way as william.
then it worked fine (only had an external mouse to test - not very 
thrilling…)


thanks for the effort!

hans




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