Re: [PD] OsX : pd 53.0 or pd 52.2 now :)

[Simon Iten]

ouch...

i can see that happenig on these PIs, so will have to update, thanks for
bringing it to my attention.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022, 07:22 Christof Ressi,  wrote:

> See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1672
>
> If you try to open a new stream while a stream is still running (in the
> helper thread), [readsf~] will just go silent.
>
> Christof
> On 23.11.2022 21:23, Simon Iten wrote:
>
> hi christof,
>
> i have used readsf~ for an art installation with pd 0.52.2 on a raspberry
> pi 4. (it should run for 18 months now)
>
> i completely missed the serious regression bit, what was it?
>
> i am wondering now, if i have to go and update those PIs..
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022, 17:29 Christof Ressi,  wrote:
>
>> > and all what has to be found on the net now, thanks to everyone and
>> > particularly Miller, is the brand new pd 53.0 :
>>
>> At the bottom of http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html click
>>  click on "directory listing of
>> all downloadable files" and it will lead you to
>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
>>
>> BTW, be careful with 0.52-2 because there is a serious regression in the
>> [readsf~] object (which has been fixed in 0.53)
>>
>> Christof
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] OsX : pd 53.0 or pd 52.2 now :)

[Christof Ressi]

See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1672

If you try to open a new stream while a stream is still running (in the 
helper thread), [readsf~] will just go silent.


Christof

On 23.11.2022 21:23, Simon Iten wrote:

hi christof,

i have used readsf~ for an art installation with pd 0.52.2 on a 
raspberry pi 4. (it should run for 18 months now)


i completely missed the serious regression bit, what was it?

i am wondering now, if i have to go and update those PIs..


On Wed, 23 Nov 2022, 17:29 Christof Ressi,  wrote:

> and all what has to be found on the net now, thanks to everyone and
> particularly Miller, is the brand new pd 53.0 :

At the bottom of http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html click
 click on "directory
listing of
all downloadable files" and it will lead you to
http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/

BTW, be careful with 0.52-2 because there is a serious regression
in the
[readsf~] object (which has been fixed in 0.53)

Christof




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Re: [PD] Apple Silicon (M1 Pro, M1 Max, M2) questions

[Dan Wilcox]

My home machine is an M1 laptop and the work machine is an M1 Pro. Both run Pd 
fine and any externals which are compiled for arm64. If the external is built 
using pd-lib-builder, it's relatively easy to build for arm64 and there are 
already numerous external builds which support arm64 on "deken' aka "Find 
externals."

What you may be finding is that early on, people weren't able to run native 
externals because there weren't any precompiled for amr64 yet. Now there are 
many. Worst case, you can force running as x86_64 using Rosetta: Right-click on 
.app -> Get Info, check Open in Rosetta.

> On Nov 23, 2022, at 5:19 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
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> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 11:03:49 +
> From: "kerry l. hagan" mailto:klha...@gmail.com>>
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
> Subject: [PD] Apple Silicon (M1 Pro, M1 Max, M2) questions
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I need to update my laptop, and I?m trying to decide between M1 Pro, M1 Max 
> and M2. CPU benchmarks show that M1 Max runs fastest, but Miller told me that 
> it may not handle Pd?s real time processes, that he saw messages about 
> problems. So when I Googled and also searched this list, I?m finding issues 
> with externals and compiling, but nothing specific about vanilla Pd, no 
> externals, running poorly on Apple chips.
> 
> They?ve been out for a while (except M2), so maybe you all can advise?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kerry


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
danomatika.com 
robotcowboy.com 



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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 212, Issue 35

[Philip Stone via Pd-list]

Hi Kerry,

I’ve been running my system on M1/Monterrey-Pd 53.0 with no issues, and am 
enjoying the performance boost immensely. Any externals I haven’t been able to 
get, I’ve compiled (I can’t speak for GEM, though).

You say: “Miller told me that it may not handle Pd’s real time processes, that 
he saw messages about problems.”

That would certainly be a concern!  I haven’t heard anything about this; can 
you (or Miller) please elaborate?


Phil Stone
Davis, CA  USA



>From: "kerry l. hagan" 
>Subject: [PD] Apple Silicon (M1 Pro, M1 Max, M2) questions
>Message-ID: 

>Hi all,

>I need to update my laptop, and I?m trying to decide between M1 Pro, M1 Max 
>and M2. CPU benchmarks show that M1 Max runs fastest, >but Miller told me that 
>it may not handle Pd?s real time processes, that he saw messages about 
>problems. So when I Googled and also >searched this list, I?m finding issues 
>with externals and compiling, but nothing specific about vanilla Pd, no 
>externals, running poorly on >Apple chips.

>They’ve been out for a while (except M2), so maybe you all can advise?

>Thanks,

>Kerry


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Re: [PD] OsX : pd 53.0 or pd 52.2 now :)

[Christof Ressi]

and all what has to be found on the net now, thanks to everyone and 
particularly Miller, is the brand new pd 53.0 : 


At the bottom of http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html click 
 click on "directory listing of 
all downloadable files" and it will lead you to 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/


BTW, be careful with 0.52-2 because there is a serious regression in the 
[readsf~] object (which has been fixed in 0.53)


Christof




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[PD] OsX : pd 53.0 or pd 52.2 now :)

[Jean-Marie Adrien]

Hello list
I have an important production in January, and have to do it on OsX Monterey M1.

The thing is that I have to upgrade old complicated  historical things in 32 
bits (yes !) finally to 64 bits at this occasion and, 
I began last month to have a feel about this task,   by running pd 52.2 with 
rosetta on Monterey a couple of hours, and it seemed feasible.

Went back to this job today, and pd disappeared from the apple mini Mac 
(because of automartic upgrade of Monterey !) and all what has to be found on 
the net now, thanks to everyone and particularly Miller, is the brand new pd 
53.0 :

Basic questions concerning this new version

1- no need of rosetta (on Monterey M1) I guess ?
2 - are most common libraries (gem) available in this format or is it better to 
find somewhere a pd 52.2 and go with rosetta and old 64 bits libraries until 
everything is « available » 

Thanks to all :)
JM





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Re: [PD] RNBO in Max, streamlined export workflow

[Patko nytkophilus]

Hello,
 I'm working on a project where raspberry pi would share both PureData
patches and max RNBO. I'm actually planning to use OSCquery with the help
of ossia external to evaluate OSCquery's json with PureData, for having
both working same way on raspberry pi. Here is my one cent...

Le mer. 23 nov. 2022, 02:08, Max  a écrit :

> Hi list,
>
> you probably have heard what happened in Max-land: There is a new export
> workflow which lets Max users create C++ code, RPi code or VST3 plugins
> from a subset of Max objects called RNBO [1].
> It's kind of like what Heavy/HVCC [2] and Camomile [3] are for Pd, but
> with a streamlined point and click workflow.
> This left me wondering if something like that could be possible in Pd.
> Have a menu item to export as a plugin running libpd or exporting a
> patch to C/C++ using heavy (or highlighting not supported objects in the
> patch in case it fails). What do you think?
>
> m.
>
>
> [1] https://rnbo.cycling74.com
> [2] https://github.com/Wasted-Audio/hvcc
> [3] https://github.com/pierreguillot/Camomile
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Apple Silicon (M1 Pro, M1 Max, M2) questions

[Patko nytkophilus]

Hello,
 if you have some specific need of  an external for Apple silicon I would
add it to dépend packages.

Le mer. 23 nov. 2022, 12:12, kerry l. hagan  a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> I need to update my laptop, and I’m trying to decide between M1 Pro, M1
> Max and M2. CPU benchmarks show that M1 Max runs fastest, but Miller told
> me that it may not handle Pd’s real time processes, that he saw messages
> about problems. So when I Googled and also searched this list, I’m finding
> issues with externals and compiling, but nothing specific about vanilla Pd,
> no externals, running poorly on Apple chips.
>
> They’ve been out for a while (except M2), so maybe you all can advise?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[PD] Apple Silicon (M1 Pro, M1 Max, M2) questions

[kerry l. hagan]

Hi all,

I need to update my laptop, and I’m trying to decide between M1 Pro, M1 Max and 
M2. CPU benchmarks show that M1 Max runs fastest, but Miller told me that it 
may not handle Pd’s real time processes, that he saw messages about problems. 
So when I Googled and also searched this list, I’m finding issues with 
externals and compiling, but nothing specific about vanilla Pd, no externals, 
running poorly on Apple chips.

They’ve been out for a while (except M2), so maybe you all can advise?

Thanks,

Kerry






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Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

[Peter P.]

* Chris McCormick  [2022-11-23 03:45]:
> On 23/11/22 4:58 am, Peter P. wrote:
> > more views from others.
> 
> 
> Whoever paints the community bike shed gets to pick the colours.
Haha, lovely! Thanks Chris!



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