[PD] Pduino issue?

2023-04-13 Thread Rick Snow
Hello list,

I am helping someone use pd with an arduino mega.  They would like to use all 
of the digital output pins.  I’ve used pduino in the past in this way and not 
had trouble, but I seem to be bumping into something now.

I started by using the arduino help patch.  StandardFirmata sketch on the Mega. 
 Connection via usb works fine.

I set all the pins to output by sending "pinMode 2 output” -> “pinMode 45 
output” messages to the arduino object. No errors.

Then, I use the messages “digital 2 1” “digital 2 0” -> “digital 45 1” “digital 
45 0” sent to the arduino object to check the pins.  When checking with a 
multimeter I am not able to get output from pins 2-7.  I do get output from 
8-20.  Between 20-40 some pins work and others not at all.  Other pins will 
turn on but not turn off.

Checking the pins using a simple blink sketch shows all the pins working fine.

Any advice would be greatly appreciate!

Cheers,
Rick





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Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread Patco
Hello,
 I'm using crontab to load pd, the only way I've found to have sound when pd 
starts at boot is about adding delay into the script that starts PureData like 
this:

#!/bin/bash
env sleep 10
,pd -nogui mypatch
 
on some computer 5s is enough, on some other it's about 10s...

How could we know that soundcard is ready?

I've been reading somewhere that pd needs pulse loaded to get sound working so 
I've tried this before in the script:

 while [ ! -d /run/user/1000/pulse ]
do
  sleep 0.2
done

but it has no effect.

this is happening on raspberryOS lite, and on patchboxOS which have a realtime 
kernel, the main user added to audio group, same problem...

One thing I didn't try yet is about using this service file provided by Orac:

[Unit]
Description=Run Orac at boot
DefaultDependencies=no
Wants=network-online.target
After=network-online.target
Conflicts=shutdown.target
Before=shutdown.target 

[Service]
Type=simple
User=patch
Group=patch
Environment=HOME=/home/patch
EnvironmentFile=/etc/environment
LimitRTPRIO=infinity
LimitMEMLOCK=infinity
KillMode=process
Restart=always
WorkingDirectory=/usr/local/orac
ExecStart=/usr/bin/pd -rt -alsamidi -nogui -audiobuf 4 mother.pd main.pd 

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target

I'd be glad to get any hint about what would prevent pd to have audio working 
at boot.

Maybe there is something to do into PureData for accessing soundcard when it is 
ready?

> Le 13 avr. 2023 à 12:48, Lucas Cordiviola  a écrit :
> 
> sounds that you have to delay "pd starts up on boot" part. seems Pd is 
> started before the soundcard is ready.
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> On 13/04/2023 07:39, Simon Iten wrote:
>> Or as a workaround, is there a way to hit that apply button automagically 
>> from within a pd patch on loadbang?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2023, at 12:36, Simon Iten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have a strange one…
>>> 
>>> I have a raspberry PI 4 with a usb sound card as in/output and a patch that 
>>> starts up on boot (via the simple autostart in 
>>> /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart)
>>> 
>>> Since I also need graphics from puredata.
>>> 
>>> Whenever pd is auto-started, it does not get any sound input.
>>> As soon as I go to the media -> audio settings menu, I can see that the 
>>> card is correctly specified.
>>> Now a simple “Apply” (without changing anything else) makes the sound work.
>>> 
>>> Opening a pd patch manually I have correct sound input without going to the 
>>> menu…
>>> 
>>> Any tips?
>>> 
>>> I tried delaying the dsp 1 message on loadbang by 200ms since I read 
>>> somewhere this could be the problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [PD] pd for android and abl_link~

2023-04-13 Thread Daniel Iglesia
Regarding 'adapting for Google's updates' I've just pushed a new version of
MobMuPlat (Android) to the play store; I'll push the changes to github
momentarily.
(Google was no longer allowing apps with an older SDK)

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 9:12 AM João Pais  wrote:

> I can still use and compile the mobmuplat code, it's the base for my
> click tracker App. It works fine, the only problem is adapting for
> google's updates.
>
> jmmmp
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >   unfortunately it seems Mobmuplat can't be opened by Android Studio
> > anymore as it complains about not being able to create the
> > com.intellij.java plugin extension. I created an issue on github. I
> > tried to open it on an old machine where it used to work but the java
> > runtime on that machine won't cooperate.
> >
> > Supersad, but it's beyond my skillset to resurrect the code. I guess
> > we'll just have to hope the .apk of the current version keeps working.
> >
> > ---
> > Orm
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, den 16. Februar 2023 um 14:21:44 Uhr (-0800) schrieb
> Daniel Iglesia:
> >> Thanks Tal
> >>
> >> So building with that remote dependency should be swapping out the
> >> destination in the gradle file. I will update that at some point, or
> >> someone feel free to send a pull request.
> >>
> >> However, building with a custom object to include means building from a
> >> local version of pd-for-android and libpd, as including that object is
> part
> >> of the libpd compilation, not the android app compilation. I haven't
> tried
> >> building Android on top of the local library in a long time, so I don't
> >> have help there. Tal may have more info on local build setup.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 1:33 PM Tal Kirshboim 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>
> >>> pd-for-android is available on maven central.
> >>>
> >>> https://search.maven.org/artifact/io.github.libpd.android/pd-core
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 22:10 Daniel Iglesia 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Didn't know that jcenter is no longer active. Is pd-for-android
> available
>  on maven? Or does it need to be a locally-available dependency?
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:27 PM Orm Finnendahl <
>  orm.finnend...@selma.hfmdk-frankfurt.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >   I'd like to build MobMuPlat with pdlib including the abl_link~
> > external. As far as I've understood, the original MobMuPlat code uses
> > jcenter which is not active anymore and has been replaced by maven.
> It
> > seems I need to add the maven repository to MobMuPlat's build scripts
> > and somehow add the dependencies of abl_link~. Can anybody give
> > information or point me to references how to accomplish this?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated!
> >
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Max pd~ object test compiled for M1 processors

2023-04-13 Thread João Pais
According to reports from users, the external is also working on my 
Click Tracker patch (both as max patch and standalone).



This is great, thank you! Just tested on my M1 machine using Rosetta 
and then not and all seems to work fine in the help patches at first 
glance. I did get a macOS quarantine popup the first time, but 
approving that worked and it didn't re-appear.


On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:44 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-announce 
 wrote:


To Pd announce -

The pd~ Max object (which allows you to embed Pd patches in
Max/MSP) is now
available for the M1 architecture in a test version (0.55test1). 
You can
get it at the usual spot: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html

It _should_ be possible to run it in Max version 8 for either
intel or "M1"
(apple) architecture, using Pd compiled for either architecture -
but I haven't
tried out all the permutations yet.

Bug reports are most welcome, either to Pd list or to me personally.

cheers
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Re: [PD] pd for android and abl_link~

2023-04-13 Thread João Pais
I can still use and compile the mobmuplat code, it's the base for my 
click tracker App. It works fine, the only problem is adapting for 
google's updates.


jmmmp



Hi,

  unfortunately it seems Mobmuplat can't be opened by Android Studio
anymore as it complains about not being able to create the
com.intellij.java plugin extension. I created an issue on github. I
tried to open it on an old machine where it used to work but the java
runtime on that machine won't cooperate.

Supersad, but it's beyond my skillset to resurrect the code. I guess
we'll just have to hope the .apk of the current version keeps working.

---
Orm

Am Donnerstag, den 16. Februar 2023 um 14:21:44 Uhr (-0800) schrieb Daniel 
Iglesia:

Thanks Tal

So building with that remote dependency should be swapping out the
destination in the gradle file. I will update that at some point, or
someone feel free to send a pull request.

However, building with a custom object to include means building from a
local version of pd-for-android and libpd, as including that object is part
of the libpd compilation, not the android app compilation. I haven't tried
building Android on top of the local library in a long time, so I don't
have help there. Tal may have more info on local build setup.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 1:33 PM Tal Kirshboim 
wrote:


Hi Daniel,

pd-for-android is available on maven central.

https://search.maven.org/artifact/io.github.libpd.android/pd-core

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 22:10 Daniel Iglesia 
wrote:


Didn't know that jcenter is no longer active. Is pd-for-android available
on maven? Or does it need to be a locally-available dependency?

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:27 PM Orm Finnendahl <
orm.finnend...@selma.hfmdk-frankfurt.de> wrote:


Hi,

  I'd like to build MobMuPlat with pdlib including the abl_link~
external. As far as I've understood, the original MobMuPlat code uses
jcenter which is not active anymore and has been replaced by maven. It
seems I need to add the maven repository to MobMuPlat's build scripts
and somehow add the dependencies of abl_link~. Can anybody give
information or point me to references how to accomplish this?

Any help is appreciated!

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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

2023-04-13 Thread Ico Bukvic
Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.

Best,

Ico

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On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo  wrote:

> Thanks, Ico!
>
> This sounds great!
>
> But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian
> 9.5) ?
> Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that
> includes
> all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from
> all of
> the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
> transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an
> ability
> to track clicks, including their location.
>
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
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> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
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>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
> Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
> addition for making a good looking user interface.
> When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
> alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated
> code in
> Pd.
>
> One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background
> (for
> background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
> Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
> more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to
> me.
>
> Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
> It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
> picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
> placement and size.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
> work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.
>
> Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
> higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
> tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can
> handle
> jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten
> me
>
> cheers
>
> Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
> look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.
>
> Ingo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
>
> http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&descriptions
> =
> returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
> https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd
>
> Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
> deken search engine.
>
> * Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> > images which is working fine.
> >
> > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
> >
> > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help is appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ingo
> >
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Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread Simon Iten
thanks everybody, a combination of a delayed PD start and a delayed dsp 1
message did the trick!!

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, 13:39 Christof Ressi,  wrote:

> I tried delaying the dsp 1 message on loadbang by 200ms since I read 
> somewhere this could be the problem.
>
> Try
>
> [loadbang] --> [del 1000] --> [; pd dsp 0, dsp1(
>
> If the audio device has already been opened (albeit unsuccessfully), you
> might need to turn DSP off first, so that turning DSP on will reopen the
> device.
>
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Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread Christof Ressi

I tried delaying the dsp 1 message on loadbang by 200ms since I read somewhere 
this could be the problem.

Try

[loadbang] --> [del 1000] --> [; pd dsp 0, dsp1(

If the audio device has already been opened (albeit unsuccessfully), you 
might need to turn DSP off first, so that turning DSP on will reopen the 
device.


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Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

On 4/13/23 12:39, Simon Iten wrote:

Or as a workaround, is there a way to hit that apply button automagically from 
within a pd patch on loadbang?


yes, with the [mediasettings] library.

in RPi, you should be able to install it with
$ apt-get install pd-mediasettings

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Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
sounds that you have to delay "pd starts up on boot" part. seems Pd is 
started before the soundcard is ready.




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On 13/04/2023 07:39, Simon Iten wrote:

Or as a workaround, is there a way to hit that apply button automagically from 
within a pd patch on loadbang?




On 13 Apr 2023, at 12:36, Simon Iten  wrote:

Ok, I have a strange one…

I have a raspberry PI 4 with a usb sound card as in/output and a patch that 
starts up on boot (via the simple autostart in 
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart)

Since I also need graphics from puredata.

Whenever pd is auto-started, it does not get any sound input.
As soon as I go to the media -> audio settings menu, I can see that the card is 
correctly specified.
Now a simple “Apply” (without changing anything else) makes the sound work.

Opening a pd patch manually I have correct sound input without going to the 
menu…

Any tips?

I tried delaying the dsp 1 message on loadbang by 200ms since I read somewhere 
this could be the problem.






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Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread Simon Iten
Or as a workaround, is there a way to hit that apply button automagically from 
within a pd patch on loadbang?



> On 13 Apr 2023, at 12:36, Simon Iten  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have a strange one…
> 
> I have a raspberry PI 4 with a usb sound card as in/output and a patch that 
> starts up on boot (via the simple autostart in 
> /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart)
> 
> Since I also need graphics from puredata.
> 
> Whenever pd is auto-started, it does not get any sound input. 
> As soon as I go to the media -> audio settings menu, I can see that the card 
> is correctly specified.
> Now a simple “Apply” (without changing anything else) makes the sound work.
> 
> Opening a pd patch manually I have correct sound input without going to the 
> menu…
> 
> Any tips?
> 
> I tried delaying the dsp 1 message on loadbang by 200ms since I read 
> somewhere this could be the problem.
> 
> 




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[PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread Simon Iten
Ok, I have a strange one…

I have a raspberry PI 4 with a usb sound card as in/output and a patch that 
starts up on boot (via the simple autostart in 
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart)

Since I also need graphics from puredata.

Whenever pd is auto-started, it does not get any sound input. 
As soon as I go to the media -> audio settings menu, I can see that the card is 
correctly specified.
Now a simple “Apply” (without changing anything else) makes the sound work.

Opening a pd patch manually I have correct sound input without going to the 
menu…

Any tips?

I tried delaying the dsp 1 message on loadbang by 200ms since I read somewhere 
this could be the problem.





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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

2023-04-13 Thread Ingo
Thanks, Ico!

This sounds great!

But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ?
Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes 
all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of 
the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports 
transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability 
to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

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Blacksburg, VA 24061
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On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
addition for making a good looking user interface.
When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in
Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for
background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
placement and size.

Ingo



From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle
jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&descriptions
=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> images which is working fine.
>
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>
>
>
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>
>
>
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
>
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ingo
>

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