Re: [PD] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Roman Haefeli]

On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 06:04 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> Am 14. Mai 2024 22:57:01 MESZ schrieb Roman Haefeli
> :
> > 
> > It appears the Pd console suppresses all output from start-up,
> > including library messages, error messages, stuff printed with
> > [print]
> > triggerd by [loadbang]. Everything is printed normally to the
> > terminal
> > when using -stderr.
> > 
> > Roman
> 
> 


👍

Roman


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Re: [PD] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 14. Mai 2024 22:57:01 MESZ schrieb Roman Haefeli :

>On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 17:15 +0200, Edwin van der Heide wrote:
>> One observation:
>> 
>> The PD Window doesn’t display the text from the external libraries
>> that are loaded at startup anymore. 
>> The libraries are still visible in Preferences > Startup and work as
>> usual.
>
>It appears the Pd console suppresses all output from start-up,
>including library messages, error messages, stuff printed with [print]
>triggerd by [loadbang]. Everything is printed normally to the terminal
>when using -stderr.
>
>Hm.. it's not only suppressed at [loadbang]. Even a message triggered
>by loadbang sent to server and sent back is not printed.
>
>Roman



mfg.sfg.jfd
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[PD] How to open attachments sent to the list in MacOS?

[Julián Villegas]

Hi, 

I wanted to see the examples of the 3-body problem and then I realized that I 
cannot open “bin” files sent to the list in my macOS system. Google says to use 
the Unarchiver app, but that didn’t work either. I wonder whether the bin files 
were corrupt or how you guys open these files in macOS…

Thanks for your advice,

Julian.





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> Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 10:38:11 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [PD] Solving the three-body problem [1] with pmpd and
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> Hello Winfried,
> 
> It's really easy to simulate this problem.
> Benjamin Wesch send me a patch off list. I added it to mine, so here are 4 
> different way to go. (using mass2d, pmpd2d, pmpd2d~ and pmpd3d~)
> 
> The biggest challenge is finding initial conditions that did not result in a 
> very fast divergence of the masses.
> 
> cheers
> C
> 
> Le 12/05/2024 ? 21:32, Winfried Ritsch a ?crit?:
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-body_problem
>> 
>> mfG winfried
>> 
>> PS.:just curious... wanted it for a demonstration.
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Re: [PD] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Roman Haefeli]

Hey

Thanks to everyone involved in that release. All the things mentioned
in the release notes are much appreciated changes/improvements,
especially the new audio back-end handling and scheduler.


On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 17:15 +0200, Edwin van der Heide wrote:
> One observation:
> 
> The PD Window doesn’t display the text from the external libraries
> that are loaded at startup anymore. 
> The libraries are still visible in Preferences > Startup and work as
> usual.

It appears the Pd console suppresses all output from start-up,
including library messages, error messages, stuff printed with [print]
triggerd by [loadbang]. Everything is printed normally to the terminal
when using -stderr.

Hm.. it's not only suppressed at [loadbang]. Even a message triggered
by loadbang sent to server and sent back is not printed.

Roman


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Re: [PD] Solving the three-body problem [1] with pmpd and GEM, anyone ?

[Winfried Ritsch]

Hello,

Thanks for the reply and the examples and thanks to the really well designed 
pmpd, it is easy to find a working simulation and can be solved and visualized 
in different ways and the three body problem is a classic task for that. So I 
guessed that some, from the pd patch family, were looking for and found a 
solution to create music and sound art. 

Of course, the three-body system is only stable for a small range of initial 
conditions and is not mathematically solvable.

The solution Benjamin sent me is really cool: Simulation in the signal domain 
and visualization with scope and audio rendering in the ambisonics domain, 
which was the initial motivation for it. 

So thanks Benjamin for the solution and artwork and Henry for the wonderful 
library.

mfg winfried

Am Dienstag, 14. Mai 2024, 10:38:11 CEST schrieb cyrille henry:
> Hello Winfried,
> 
> It's really easy to simulate this problem.
> Benjamin Wesch send me a patch off list. I added it to mine, so here are 4
> different way to go. (using mass2d, pmpd2d, pmpd2d~ and pmpd3d~)
> 
> The biggest challenge is finding initial conditions that did not result in a
> very fast divergence of the masses.
> 
> cheers
> C
> 
> Le 12/05/2024 à 21:32, Winfried Ritsch a écrit :
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-body_problem
> > 
> > mfG winfried
> > 
> > PS.:just curious... wanted it for a demonstration.
> > 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 15:19, Christof Ressi 
escreveu:

> It used to be XP, but since Pd 0.54 it's Vista because of the new WASAPI
> backend. The 32-bit version, however, still runs on XP because it is built
> without WASAPI.
>

Awesome, Miller, I think it seems worth mentioning "Windows Vista or newer"
in http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm


> On 14.05.2024 20:13, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> What is the minimal Windows OS version you can install Pd (the 64 bit
> one)? Every other option seems to mention the minimum OS, but this one is
> missing.
>
> cheers
>
> Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 11:26, Miller Puckette <
> mpucke...@cloud.ucsd.edu> escreveu:
>
>> To Pd-announce:
>>
>> Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from
>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>>
>> There was no "test1" - it never made it through the release process.
>> Also,
>> for Mac users, the app will show up as "Pd-0.55-0test2c" but in fact
>> it's just test2.
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Christof Ressi]

It used to be XP, but since Pd 0.54 it's Vista because of the new WASAPI 
backend. The 32-bit version, however, still runs on XP because it is 
built without WASAPI.


On 14.05.2024 20:13, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
What is the minimal Windows OS version you can install Pd (the 64 bit 
one)? Every other option seems to mention the minimum OS, but this one 
is missing.


cheers

Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 11:26, Miller Puckette 
 escreveu:


To Pd-announce:

Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

There was no "test1" - it never made it through the release
process.  Also,
for Mac users, the app will show up as "Pd-0.55-0test2c" but in fact
it's just test2.

cheers
Miller





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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

What is the minimal Windows OS version you can install Pd (the 64 bit one)?
Every other option seems to mention the minimum OS, but this one is missing.

cheers

Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 11:26, Miller Puckette <
mpucke...@cloud.ucsd.edu> escreveu:

> To Pd-announce:
>
> Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> There was no "test1" - it never made it through the release process.  Also,
> for Mac users, the app will show up as "Pd-0.55-0test2c" but in fact
> it's just test2.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Peter P.]

* Christof Ressi  [2024-05-14 18:40]:
> > I wonder what the updates to the audio interfacing and scheduler are?
> 
> See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756.
Thanks, amazing!
best, P



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em ter., 14 de mai. de 2024 às 12:17, Edwin van der Heide 
escreveu:

> The PD Window doesn’t display the text from the external libraries that
> are loaded at startup anymore. The libraries are still visible in
> Preferences > Startup and work as usual.


I can confirm it doesn't load the texts, but that is not the only issue.
For 'ELSE', loading the library at startup also loads a plugin for object
browsing and this doesn't work anymore. I think the order of loading things
have changed and we're skipping an important step.

cheers
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Christof Ressi]

I wonder what the updates to the audio interfacing and scheduler are?


See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756.

Christof
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Peter P.]

* Miller Puckette  [2024-05-14 16:24]:
> To Pd-announce:
> 
> Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm

Thanks Miller,

just reading the changelog at
https://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x5.htm#s5.1
I wonder what the updates to the audio interfacing and scheduler are?

best, Peter



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Edwin van der Heide]

One observation:

The PD Window doesn’t display the text from the external libraries that are 
loaded at startup anymore. 
The libraries are still visible in Preferences > Startup and work as usual.

Best!

Edwin

> On 14 May 2024, at 16:23, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> 
> To Pd-announce:
> 
> Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
> 
> There was no "test1" - it never made it through the release process.  Also,
> for Mac users, the app will show up as "Pd-0.55-0test2c" but in fact it's 
> just test2.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

[Miller Puckette]

To Pd-announce:

Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

There was no "test1" - it never made it through the release process.  Also,
for Mac users, the app will show up as "Pd-0.55-0test2c" but in fact 
it's just test2.


cheers
Miller





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Re: [PD] Solving the three-body problem [1] with pmpd and GEM, anyone ?

[cyrille henry]

Hello Winfried,

It's really easy to simulate this problem.
Benjamin Wesch send me a patch off list. I added it to mine, so here are 4 
different way to go. (using mass2d, pmpd2d, pmpd2d~ and pmpd3d~)

The biggest challenge is finding initial conditions that did not result in a 
very fast divergence of the masses.

cheers
C

Le 12/05/2024 à 21:32, Winfried Ritsch a écrit :

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-body_problem

mfG winfried

PS.:just curious... wanted it for a demonstration.


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