Re: [PD] getting vanilla gui objects into standalone builds

[henry birdseye]

As a relative newbie to PD, let me suggest that PurrData is old, and 
incomplete. Unless you have a very specific reason for using it, PD 
Vanilla is the one to use.


On 6/28/2020 9:42 AM, Jakob Laue wrote:

Hi!
Alright, so I have looked a little bit into pdparty and mobmuplat. 
Seriously these are cool projects!
But I would like to have standalone apps, so it seems that I cannot 
use both of them..

Maybe I need to go for ofelia then or try native coding.
But it is also interesting what you mentioned about purr-data. I have 
heard of it a lot, but i dont know what it is. You mentioned that 
purr-data is able to port the native guis to non-tk-frameworks. Does 
this mean e.g. porting to iOS? I guess I need to take a look into 
purr-data as well:)

All the best, jakob
*Gesendet:* Sonntag, 21. Juni 2020 um 20:15 Uhr
*Von:* "Dan Wilcox" 
*An:* "Jakob Laue" 
*Cc:* "Pd-List" , "Christof Ressi" 
, "enrike" 

*Betreff:* Re: [PD] getting vanilla gui objects into standalone builds
Howdy Jakob,
There is no "standalone GUI" for mobile. The UI widgets for 
PdDroidParty and my own PdParty are custom re-implementations which 
intercept messages using sends/receives. Both apps are open source, so 
you can reuse the widgets but PdDroidParty's implementation is not 
feature complete, ie. no radio buttons, etc. MobMuPlat, for instance, 
uses the Pd UI implementation form PdParty.
For mobile, it's often better to use the native sliders and buttons 
and send the state changes to/from libpd. Either way, you will have to 
do native platform coding & integration, unless you simply want to run 
patches, in which case try using PdParty and/or PdDroidParty.
My long-term plan is to bring changes into libpd & the pd core so GUI 
messaging could be abstracted to make porting the native UIs to non-Tk 
frameworks easier. Purr-data has achieved this, for instance, so we 
know it's possible.


On Jun 21, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Christof Ressi
mailto:i...@christofressi.com>> wrote:

Hi,

on desktop it's easy: just bundle Pd with your patch, add a simple
starter script and maybe use the KIOSK plugin to hide the console.

Mobile is tricky, because of the locked down nature of the
platforms (especially iOS). There are projects to run Pd patches
on Android (http://droidparty.net/) and iOS
(http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty) with some compatibility
between the two
(http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty/guide#pddroid-party-compatibility).
You have to follow some conventions, though.

If you design your patch for PdParty and/or PdDroidParty and don't
use mobile specific features, it should automatically work in
desktop Pd vanilla. I think @Dan can tell you more about it.

Christof

On 21.06.2020 12:16, Jakob Laue wrote:

Hey dear friends,
i am currently building an instrument with many vanilla-native
gui objects (mainly buttons).
I would like to build standalone versions of that patch,
preferably for linux, osx, ios and android.
I know that building standalones is possible eg with ofxPof or
ofelia. But as far as i know, if i use ofxPof or ofelia, I
will need to use "their" gui objects, which means re-working
my patch.
Do you know of a tool that allows building standalone versions
from a pd patch that will keep the original pd-vanilla-gui
objects - or even better - a tool that is able to "convert"
pd-vanilla-gui objects into its own types of gui objects,
which look maybe a bit different from the pd-object, but
fulfill the same purpose?
:-)))
Best, jakob

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Re: [PD] missing libraries - Purr Data/Arduino/Firmata

[henry birdseye]

Thank for your suggestions. Let me phrase my question another way:

Have you, or anyone you know, successfully gotten Purr Data to work with 
Firmata?


H


On 12/22/2019 3:12 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Sun, 2019-12-22 at 10:23 -0500, henry birdseye wrote:

I have landed on Firmata to get external analog signals into my Pi,
using an Arduino. Arduino Firmata compiles just fine, but when I load
arduino-test.pd I get errors, indicating I'm missing some libraries,
right? Where TF can I find them?

You could use [arduino] from here:
https://github.com/reduzent/pduino

Its only dependency is comport.

Roman




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[PD] missing libraries - Purr Data/Arduino/Firmata

[henry birdseye]

I have landed on Firmata to get external analog signals into my Pi, 
using an Arduino. Arduino Firmata compiles just fine, but when I load 
arduino-test.pd I get errors, indicating I'm missing some libraries, 
right? Where TF can I find them?


Here is the list of errors. I can't find some of these legacy libraries 
anywhere and the woefully outdated Floss Manuals is no help:


mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

mapping/resample 100

... couldn't create

zexy/makesymbol Firmata-%s.%s

... couldn't create

zexy/unpack float float

... couldn't create

mapping/tolist

... couldn't create

mapping/tolist

... couldn't create

comport $1 57600

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

mapping/debytemask

... couldn't create

moocow/string2any 32 -1

... couldn't create

mapping/tolist

... couldn't create

mapping/tolist

... couldn't create

cyclone/prepend

... couldn't create

zexy/makesymbol %s-%s.%s

... couldn't create

moocow/string2any 32 -1

... couldn't create

moocow/any2string

... couldn't create

pddp/print

... couldn't create

cyclone/prepend string

... couldn't create

moocow/any2string

... couldn't create

pddp/print

... couldn't create

cyclone/prepend sysex

... couldn't create

cyclone/prepend 40

... couldn't create

moocow/string2any 32 -1

... couldn't create

cyclone/gate 2

... couldn't create

[arduino]: version_0.5



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[PD] Reading from an MPC3008 adc in PD?

[henry birdseye]

I want to add some external controllers to my pd patches. Is it possible 
to get analog data from a GPIO (and adc) directly from within pd, or do 
I need to use Python ?


Anybody here ever try this?

H




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[PD] pd for oscilloscopes again

[henry birdseye]

N00b problems...

Following up on my previous thread, my first goal was to get dac~ from 
pd-0.50-2 into my DAW, Reaper, which is easy to do using ReaRoute.


There are several versions of PureData out there, and I'm stuck on a 
couple bits.


The master of oscilloscope music, Jerobeam Fenderson, suggests 
pd-extended, which I later learned is out of date, so I'm using 
pd-0.50-2, and some things won't work.


GEM is one of them. I'd like see my results better. I cannot make a 
gemwin to save my life.


One of the .pd's I'd like to use makes use of the triangle~ object, but 
I get a "can't create" message in the console. Is there a library of 
objects I can use instead?


I made a very simple .pd, and no sound comes out.

What am I missing?

More q's will surely follow and I thank you for your help.

HB



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[PD] current versions and resources only

[henry birdseye]

Alrighty, let me ask where are the most current and recommended release 
versions? Links, please. Let's uninstall all the potentially ancient 
versions are, and start from scratch.


I am a Windows 64-bit guy, so Linux and source code files are useless to me.

Thanks in anticip.

H





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Re: [PD] pd for oscilloscopes

[henry birdseye]

Wow, I ran Vanilla, and most of the .pd's I load are severely broken. 
"Cannot create osc~", really?



On 11/29/2019 8:31 AM, Simon Iten wrote:

try PD (vanilla), pd-extended is seriously outdated:

http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html

also, there is a scope~ object in PD, maybe that already suits your needs?

On 29 Nov 2019, at 13:56, henry birdseye <mailto:henry.birds...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello PD List... noob here.

I intend to use pd-extended to generate waveforms that look nice on a 
vector display, and have a couple questions.


1) I'd like to see what I'm doing, so I'm looking for a way to 
display my patterns without having to use a physical oscilloscope, so 
what's a good vector oscilloscope app that I can somehow route those 
dac~ objects to. Can this be a GEM thing, which so far just isn't 
working for me?


2) And/Or I'd like to get my audio output into my DAW, Reaper, for 
recording as .wav files. Has anyone done this? I use a MOTU828 to 
record my modular synthesizer now.


The work of Jerobeam Fenderson is what's inspiring me now.

Thanks, list.

Henry




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Re: [PD] pd for oscilloscopes

[henry birdseye]

I'll look into JACK. Does it still not work on 64-bit? So few of the 
sites I've cruised have included the date, so I'm sure sure how far back 
ancient these links go.




On 11/29/2019 8:49 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

Hi,

On 29/11/2019 12:56, henry birdseye wrote:
what's a good vector oscilloscope app that I can somehow route those 
dac~ objects to
You can use JACK Audio Connection Kit to route audio signals betweeen 
apps.


I wrote a very simple XY oscilloscope using JACK and OpenGL:
https://mathr.co.uk/exwhyscope
(note: Fridays are strike days)
I only tested it on Linux, may need some adjustments for other OS.

I'd like to get my audio output into my DAW, Reaper, for recording as 
.wav files
You can either investigate if Reaper supports JACK, or use [writesf~] 
to write WAV files from Pd.



Claude




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Re: [PD] pd for oscilloscopes

[henry birdseye]

Sweet. I have not been able to get squat out of GEM.

On 11/29/2019 9:27 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

Am 29. November 2019 15:15:55 MEZ schrieb henry birdseye 
:

an "xy-scope~ would be nice.

Gem has a `[scopeXYZ~]`.

iirc, it's working for me.


mfg.hft.fsl
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] pd for oscilloscopes

[henry birdseye]

an "xy-scope~ would be nice.

On 11/29/2019 8:31 AM, Simon Iten wrote:

try PD (vanilla), pd-extended is seriously outdated:

http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html

also, there is a scope~ object in PD, maybe that already suits your needs?

On 29 Nov 2019, at 13:56, henry birdseye <mailto:henry.birds...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello PD List... noob here.

I intend to use pd-extended to generate waveforms that look nice on a 
vector display, and have a couple questions.


1) I'd like to see what I'm doing, so I'm looking for a way to 
display my patterns without having to use a physical oscilloscope, so 
what's a good vector oscilloscope app that I can somehow route those 
dac~ objects to. Can this be a GEM thing, which so far just isn't 
working for me?


2) And/Or I'd like to get my audio output into my DAW, Reaper, for 
recording as .wav files. Has anyone done this? I use a MOTU828 to 
record my modular synthesizer now.


The work of Jerobeam Fenderson is what's inspiring me now.

Thanks, list.

Henry




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Re: [PD] pd for oscilloscopes

[henry birdseye]

This drives me nuts: so many conflicting and very ancient pages for PD 
that I haven't caught yet caught on to what's the latest greatest.


On 11/29/2019 8:31 AM, Simon Iten wrote:

try PD (vanilla), pd-extended is seriously outdated:

http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html

also, there is a scope~ object in PD, maybe that already suits your needs?

On 29 Nov 2019, at 13:56, henry birdseye <mailto:henry.birds...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello PD List... noob here.

I intend to use pd-extended to generate waveforms that look nice on a 
vector display, and have a couple questions.


1) I'd like to see what I'm doing, so I'm looking for a way to 
display my patterns without having to use a physical oscilloscope, so 
what's a good vector oscilloscope app that I can somehow route those 
dac~ objects to. Can this be a GEM thing, which so far just isn't 
working for me?


2) And/Or I'd like to get my audio output into my DAW, Reaper, for 
recording as .wav files. Has anyone done this? I use a MOTU828 to 
record my modular synthesizer now.


The work of Jerobeam Fenderson is what's inspiring me now.

Thanks, list.

Henry




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[PD] pd for oscilloscopes

[henry birdseye]

Hello PD List... noob here.

I intend to use pd-extended to generate waveforms that look nice on a 
vector display, and have a couple questions.


1) I'd like to see what I'm doing, so I'm looking for a way to display 
my patterns without having to use a physical oscilloscope, so what's a 
good vector oscilloscope app that I can somehow route those dac~ objects 
to. Can this be a GEM thing, which so far just isn't working for me?


2) And/Or I'd like to get my audio output into my DAW, Reaper, for 
recording as .wav files. Has anyone done this? I use a MOTU828 to record 
my modular synthesizer now.


The work of Jerobeam Fenderson is what's inspiring me now.

Thanks, list.

Henry




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