Re: [PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 3. Oktober 2021 11:41:10 MESZ schrieb "hans w. koch" :
>but admittedly, i have a poor understanding of whats going on behind the 
>scenes.

Come to think of it, I have none - and might be completely wrong...


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Re: [PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[hans w. koch]

thanks for the clarification, johannes.
since the “deep learning with audio” examples do require to activate a magenta 
environment via terminal prior to launching pd and the py external, i was under 
the impression, that there is some communication taking place between that 
environment and pd.
but admittedly, i have a poor understanding of whats going on behind the scenes.

best
hans

> Am 02.10.2021 um 21:14 schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig :
> 
> Am 2. Oktober 2021 14:23:39 MESZ schrieb "hans w. koch" 
> :
>> 
>> on may machine that prints a lot of info to pd´s console and i´d take it as 
>> an indication that communication is not blocked.
>> 
> 
> I think this is quite unrelated (apart from involving Pd and Python in both 
> cases)
> 
> 'Py' (which I think is used here) does,not launch a separate "Python3" 
> executable and then communicates with it in the way `[command]` would do.
> Instead it hosts an interpreter within Pd by using "libpython"
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 2. Oktober 2021 14:23:39 MESZ schrieb "hans w. koch" :
>
>on may machine that prints a lot of info to pd´s console and i´d take it as an 
>indication that communication is not blocked.
>

I think this is quite unrelated (apart from involving Pd and Python in both 
cases)

'Py' (which I think is used here) does,not launch a separate "Python3" 
executable and then communicates with it in the way `[command]` would do.
Instead it hosts an interpreter within Pd by using "libpython"


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Re: [PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[hans w. koch]

hi yann,

for hypothesis 1 + 3 i am out of my depth (don´t have an M1)

for testing 2 you could maybe use romans  [command] utility, which he posted 
yesterday. its up on deken.
send it an "exec python3 -v” and watch it print via the right outlet
on may machine that prints a lot of info to pd´s console and i´d take it as an 
indication that communication is not blocked.

i´d wager your problem is either 1 or/and 3, for which i have no clue 
unfortunately :-(

best
hans

> Am 02.10.2021 um 07:31 schrieb Yann Seznec :
> 
> Thanks Hans, that’s very good to know. 
> 
> Here’s what my Pd window says about python when I launch:
> --
> py/pyext 0.2.2 - python script objects
> (C)2002-2019 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext
> 
> using Python 3.7.11 (default, Jul 27 2021, 07:05:34) 
> [Clang 10.0.0 ]
> 
> Python array support enabled
> —
> 
> 
> My current working theories (apart from user error) are:
> 
> 1. This is something to do with the M1 chip, maybe one of the packages isn’t 
> fully compatible?
> 2. I’m using a work computer, and despite having admin rights perhaps it is 
> quietly blocking something (like the communication between Pd and Python)
> 3. This is something to do with Python 3.7.11 vs 3.7.10?
> 
> You’ve helped me eliminate my fourth theory, which was that it was something 
> to do with Pd 0.51.4 vs 0.51.3. So, thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2021, at 19:14, hans w. koch  wrote:
>> 
>> hello yann,
>> 
>> probably not much help, but i am running the patches from example 1 + 2 
>> succesfully on pd 0.51.4
>> my machine is intel mbp os x 11.6.
>> 
>> pd console gives this for python:
>> py/pyext 0.2.2 - python script objects
>> (C)2002-2019 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext
>> 
>> using Python 3.7.10 (default, Feb 26 2021, 10:18:37) 
>> [Clang 10.0.0 ]
>> 
>> Python array support enabled
>> 
>> installing the dependencies for 02_ddsp was a bit like jumping thhru moving 
>> loops, trying to settle for the minimum amount of error messages, but in the 
>> end i somehow managed.
>> even if it makes my 2015 13inch mbp really sweat…
>> 
>> best
>> hans
>> 
>>> Am 01.10.2021 um 10:19 schrieb Yann Seznec :
>>> 
>>> Hello hello,
>>> 
>>> I’ve posted this issue on GitHub but I’m wondering if anyone on this list 
>>> has run into this before me: 
>>> https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/issues/8
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to get started on the Deep Learning With Audio resources, and 
>>> I’m reasonably certain I’ve managed to set up Python, Conda, Magenta, and 
>>> PyExt correctly. However none of the Pd patches will launch. A few more 
>>> details at the link above, but to be honest I’m finding it hard to track 
>>> down any more clues as I’m not seeing any error messages anywhere and there 
>>> are no crash logs or anything that I can see.
>>> 
>>> I’m on a MacBook Pro M1, macOS 11.6, Pd 0.51.4. 
>>> 
>>> Any tips appreciated,
>>> 
>>> Yann
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Re: [PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[Yann Seznec]

Thanks Hans, that’s very good to know. 

Here’s what my Pd window says about python when I launch:
--
py/pyext 0.2.2 - python script objects
(C)2002-2019 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext

using Python 3.7.11 (default, Jul 27 2021, 07:05:34) 
[Clang 10.0.0 ]

Python array support enabled
—


My current working theories (apart from user error) are:

1. This is something to do with the M1 chip, maybe one of the packages isn’t 
fully compatible?
2. I’m using a work computer, and despite having admin rights perhaps it is 
quietly blocking something (like the communication between Pd and Python)
3. This is something to do with Python 3.7.11 vs 3.7.10?

You’ve helped me eliminate my fourth theory, which was that it was something to 
do with Pd 0.51.4 vs 0.51.3. So, thanks!




> On 1 Oct 2021, at 19:14, hans w. koch  wrote:
> 
> hello yann,
> 
> probably not much help, but i am running the patches from example 1 + 2 
> succesfully on pd 0.51.4
> my machine is intel mbp os x 11.6.
> 
> pd console gives this for python:
> py/pyext 0.2.2 - python script objects
> (C)2002-2019 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext
> 
> using Python 3.7.10 (default, Feb 26 2021, 10:18:37) 
> [Clang 10.0.0 ]
> 
> Python array support enabled
> 
> installing the dependencies for 02_ddsp was a bit like jumping thhru moving 
> loops, trying to settle for the minimum amount of error messages, but in the 
> end i somehow managed.
> even if it makes my 2015 13inch mbp really sweat…
> 
> best
> hans
> 
>> Am 01.10.2021 um 10:19 schrieb Yann Seznec :
>> 
>> Hello hello,
>> 
>> I’ve posted this issue on GitHub but I’m wondering if anyone on this list 
>> has run into this before me: 
>> https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/issues/8
>> 
>> I’m trying to get started on the Deep Learning With Audio resources, and I’m 
>> reasonably certain I’ve managed to set up Python, Conda, Magenta, and PyExt 
>> correctly. However none of the Pd patches will launch. A few more details at 
>> the link above, but to be honest I’m finding it hard to track down any more 
>> clues as I’m not seeing any error messages anywhere and there are no crash 
>> logs or anything that I can see.
>> 
>> I’m on a MacBook Pro M1, macOS 11.6, Pd 0.51.4. 
>> 
>> Any tips appreciated,
>> 
>> Yann
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Re: [PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[hans w. koch]

hello yann,

probably not much help, but i am running the patches from example 1 + 2 
succesfully on pd 0.51.4
my machine is intel mbp os x 11.6.

pd console gives this for python:
py/pyext 0.2.2 - python script objects
(C)2002-2019 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext

using Python 3.7.10 (default, Feb 26 2021, 10:18:37) 
[Clang 10.0.0 ]

Python array support enabled

installing the dependencies for 02_ddsp was a bit like jumping thhru moving 
loops, trying to settle for the minimum amount of error messages, but in the 
end i somehow managed.
even if it makes my 2015 13inch mbp really sweat…

best
hans

> Am 01.10.2021 um 10:19 schrieb Yann Seznec :
> 
> Hello hello,
> 
> I’ve posted this issue on GitHub but I’m wondering if anyone on this list has 
> run into this before me: 
> https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/issues/8
> 
> I’m trying to get started on the Deep Learning With Audio resources, and I’m 
> reasonably certain I’ve managed to set up Python, Conda, Magenta, and PyExt 
> correctly. However none of the Pd patches will launch. A few more details at 
> the link above, but to be honest I’m finding it hard to track down any more 
> clues as I’m not seeing any error messages anywhere and there are no crash 
> logs or anything that I can see.
> 
> I’m on a MacBook Pro M1, macOS 11.6, Pd 0.51.4. 
> 
> Any tips appreciated,
> 
> Yann
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[PD] Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches

[Yann Seznec]

Hello hello,

I’ve posted this issue on GitHub but I’m wondering if anyone on this list has 
run into this before me: 
https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/issues/8 


I’m trying to get started on the Deep Learning With Audio resources, and I’m 
reasonably certain I’ve managed to set up Python, Conda, Magenta, and PyExt 
correctly. However none of the Pd patches will launch. A few more details at 
the link above, but to be honest I’m finding it hard to track down any more 
clues as I’m not seeing any error messages anywhere and there are no crash logs 
or anything that I can see.

I’m on a MacBook Pro M1, macOS 11.6, Pd 0.51.4. 

Any tips appreciated,

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