Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[S.E.P.]

OK!

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:00 PM Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> Best would be to print the strings somehow. My laptop is away for repair.
> When I get it back, I can write a small bit of tcl you can add to the Pd
> gui that will print the devices to the console and you can then export the
> console log. I'll get back to you...
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:08 AM S.E.P. <
> dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm very sorry I never saw your reply, Dan. I just kept using PD without
>> access to the Audio Settings... Today, I finally changed the OS language
>> and system region to English (U.S.) and can open Audio Settings.
>>
>> To answer your questions, I'm not tech-savvy enough to know how to "get a
>> copy of the string that causes the error". I've used error logs for Android
>> before, do I need to open something like that, but for Windows and look at
>> it while I click on Media>Audio Settings?
>>
>> As for the setup, it's Windows 10 on a Dell Inspiron 15 7577 NG55VR-7WL.
>>
>> Let me know how I can help.
>>
>> Best,
>> Elliot
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:56 PM Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>>
>>> Internationalization support is definitely high on my list. Is there
>>> some way you could get a copy of the string that causes the error? It's
>>> hard to debug/fix things without the same set up, ie. it could be a problem
>>> with Tcl/Tk or Portaudio string handling on Windows, etc. In any case, the
>>> audio dialog shouldn't crash Pd on our friends in Japan!
>>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 5:52 AM, S.E.P. <
>>> dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess I'll have to change my system settings to a European language
>>> then. Too bad! It was good for my vocabulary to have the JP settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika 
>>> danomatika.com
>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[Dan Wilcox]

Best would be to print the strings somehow. My laptop is away for repair.
When I get it back, I can write a small bit of tcl you can add to the Pd
gui that will print the devices to the console and you can then export the
console log. I'll get back to you...

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:08 AM S.E.P. <
dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm very sorry I never saw your reply, Dan. I just kept using PD without
> access to the Audio Settings... Today, I finally changed the OS language
> and system region to English (U.S.) and can open Audio Settings.
>
> To answer your questions, I'm not tech-savvy enough to know how to "get a
> copy of the string that causes the error". I've used error logs for Android
> before, do I need to open something like that, but for Windows and look at
> it while I click on Media>Audio Settings?
>
> As for the setup, it's Windows 10 on a Dell Inspiron 15 7577 NG55VR-7WL.
>
> Let me know how I can help.
>
> Best,
> Elliot
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:56 PM Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
>> Internationalization support is definitely high on my list. Is there some
>> way you could get a copy of the string that causes the error? It's hard to
>> debug/fix things without the same set up, ie. it could be a problem with
>> Tcl/Tk or Portaudio string handling on Windows, etc. In any case, the audio
>> dialog shouldn't crash Pd on our friends in Japan!
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 5:52 AM, S.E.P. <
>> dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I'll have to change my system settings to a European language
>> then. Too bad! It was good for my vocabulary to have the JP settings.
>>
>>
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com
>> robotcowboy.com
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[S.E.P.]

Hello!

I'm very sorry I never saw your reply, Dan. I just kept using PD without
access to the Audio Settings... Today, I finally changed the OS language
and system region to English (U.S.) and can open Audio Settings.

To answer your questions, I'm not tech-savvy enough to know how to "get a
copy of the string that causes the error". I've used error logs for Android
before, do I need to open something like that, but for Windows and look at
it while I click on Media>Audio Settings?

As for the setup, it's Windows 10 on a Dell Inspiron 15 7577 NG55VR-7WL.

Let me know how I can help.

Best,
Elliot




On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:56 PM Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> Internationalization support is definitely high on my list. Is there some
> way you could get a copy of the string that causes the error? It's hard to
> debug/fix things without the same set up, ie. it could be a problem with
> Tcl/Tk or Portaudio string handling on Windows, etc. In any case, the audio
> dialog shouldn't crash Pd on our friends in Japan!
>
> On Aug 2, 2018, at 5:52 AM, S.E.P. <
> dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I guess I'll have to change my system settings to a European language
> then. Too bad! It was good for my vocabulary to have the JP settings.
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:21 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
>> It might then be a lower-level issue with the device strings returned by
>> Portaudio.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 11:56 AM, S.E.P. <
>> dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hm, I made those changes to dialog_audio.tlc and it didn't help. After
>> that, I tried making the pd-lang.bat file as per the github link's
>> instructions and that also didn't work (It launches PD, but I still get the
>> error when trying to open Audio Settings.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>>
>>> Can you do a test by modifying the Audio dialog's TCL script? It's in
>>> the Pd folder: tcl/audio_dialog.tcl
>>>
>>> Modify the "set audio_indev" & "set audio_outdev" lines starting at 103
>>> from:
>>>
>>> set audio_indev1 $indev1
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> set audio_indev1 [encoding convertfrom $indev1]
>>>
>>> This should convert the device name from the system encoding to UTF8
>>> which the Tk GUI should be able to handle.
>>>
>>> Basically, modify those lines, then save the file and (re)start Pd. If
>>> it doesn't appear or crashes right away, then there is a low-level script
>>> error. It's a good idea to make a backup of the file just in case this
>>> happens.
>>>
>>> We may have to escape more strings throughout the GUI and probably
>>> re-encode the device strings when sending them back to the pd-core.
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting
>>> Pd to English as detailed in
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
>>> Settings:
>>>
>>> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
>>> while executing
>>> "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
>>> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>>> lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
>>> ("uplevel" body line 2)
>>> invoked from within
>>> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
>>>
>>> My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
>>> https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html), I need to change
>>> the
>>> language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
>>> would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass
>>> this
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
>>> change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
>>> would be.
>>>
>>>
> 
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> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[Dan Wilcox]

Internationalization support is definitely high on my list. Is there some way 
you could get a copy of the string that causes the error? It's hard to 
debug/fix things without the same set up, ie. it could be a problem with Tcl/Tk 
or Portaudio string handling on Windows, etc. In any case, the audio dialog 
shouldn't crash Pd on our friends in Japan!

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 5:52 AM, S.E.P.  
> wrote:
> 
> I guess I'll have to change my system settings to a European language then. 
> Too bad! It was good for my vocabulary to have the JP settings. 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:21 AM, Dan Wilcox  > wrote:
> It might then be a lower-level issue with the device strings returned by 
> Portaudio.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 11:56 AM, S.E.P. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hm, I made those changes to dialog_audio.tlc and it didn't help. After that, 
>> I tried making the pd-lang.bat file as per the github link's instructions 
>> and that also didn't work (It launches PD, but I still get the error when 
>> trying to open Audio Settings.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> Can you do a test by modifying the Audio dialog's TCL script? It's in the Pd 
>> folder: tcl/audio_dialog.tcl
>> 
>> Modify the "set audio_indev" & "set audio_outdev" lines starting at 103 from:
>> 
>> set audio_indev1 $indev1
>> 
>> to 
>>   
>> set audio_indev1 [encoding convertfrom $indev1]
>> 
>> This should convert the device name from the system encoding to UTF8 which 
>> the Tk GUI should be able to handle.
>> 
>> Basically, modify those lines, then save the file and (re)start Pd. If it 
>> doesn't appear or crashes right away, then there is a low-level script 
>> error. It's a good idea to make a backup of the file just in case this 
>> happens.
>> 
>> We may have to escape more strings throughout the GUI and probably re-encode 
>> the device strings when sending them back to the pd-core.
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting Pd 
>>> to English as detailed in 
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42 
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
 Settings:
 
 (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
 while executing
 "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
 global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
 ("uplevel" body line 2)
 invoked from within
 "uplevel #0 $docmds"
 
 My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
 https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html 
 ), I need to change the
 language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
 would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
 system.
 
 Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
 change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
 would be.


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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[S.E.P.]

I guess I'll have to change my system settings to a European language then.
Too bad! It was good for my vocabulary to have the JP settings.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:21 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> It might then be a lower-level issue with the device strings returned by
> Portaudio.
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2018, at 11:56 AM, S.E.P.  @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hm, I made those changes to dialog_audio.tlc and it didn't help. After
> that, I tried making the pd-lang.bat file as per the github link's
> instructions and that also didn't work (It launches PD, but I still get the
> error when trying to open Audio Settings.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
>> Can you do a test by modifying the Audio dialog's TCL script? It's in the
>> Pd folder: tcl/audio_dialog.tcl
>>
>> Modify the "set audio_indev" & "set audio_outdev" lines starting at 103
>> from:
>>
>> set audio_indev1 $indev1
>>
>> to
>>
>> set audio_indev1 [encoding convertfrom $indev1]
>>
>> This should convert the device name from the system encoding to UTF8
>> which the Tk GUI should be able to handle.
>>
>> Basically, modify those lines, then save the file and (re)start Pd. If it
>> doesn't appear or crashes right away, then there is a low-level script
>> error. It's a good idea to make a backup of the file just in case this
>> happens.
>>
>> We may have to escape more strings throughout the GUI and probably
>> re-encode the device strings when sending them back to the pd-core.
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>>
>> It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.
>>
>> In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting
>> Pd to English as detailed in https://github.com/pure-dat
>> a/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
>> Settings:
>>
>> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
>> while executing
>> "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
>> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
>> ("uplevel" body line 2)
>> invoked from within
>> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
>>
>> My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
>> https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html), I need to change the
>> language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
>> would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
>> system.
>>
>> Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
>> change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
>> would be.
>>
>>
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com
>> robotcowboy.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com
>> robotcowboy.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[Dan Wilcox]

It might then be a lower-level issue with the device strings returned by 
Portaudio.

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 11:56 AM, S.E.P.  
> wrote:
> 
> Hm, I made those changes to dialog_audio.tlc and it didn't help. After that, 
> I tried making the pd-lang.bat file as per the github link's instructions and 
> that also didn't work (It launches PD, but I still get the error when trying 
> to open Audio Settings.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Dan Wilcox  > wrote:
> Can you do a test by modifying the Audio dialog's TCL script? It's in the Pd 
> folder: tcl/audio_dialog.tcl
> 
> Modify the "set audio_indev" & "set audio_outdev" lines starting at 103 from:
> 
> set audio_indev1 $indev1
> 
> to 
>   
> set audio_indev1 [encoding convertfrom $indev1]
> 
> This should convert the device name from the system encoding to UTF8 which 
> the Tk GUI should be able to handle.
> 
> Basically, modify those lines, then save the file and (re)start Pd. If it 
> doesn't appear or crashes right away, then there is a low-level script error. 
> It's a good idea to make a backup of the file just in case this happens.
> 
> We may have to escape more strings throughout the GUI and probably re-encode 
> the device strings when sending them back to the pd-core.
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.
>> 
>> In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting Pd 
>> to English as detailed in 
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
>>> Settings:
>>> 
>>> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
>>> while executing
>>> "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
>>> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>>> lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
>>> ("uplevel" body line 2)
>>> invoked from within
>>> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
>>> 
>>> My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
>>> https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html 
>>> ), I need to change the
>>> language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
>>> would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
>>> system.
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
>>> change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
>>> would be.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika 
>> danomatika.com 
>> robotcowboy.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[S.E.P.]

Hm, I made those changes to dialog_audio.tlc and it didn't help. After
that, I tried making the pd-lang.bat file as per the github link's
instructions and that also didn't work (It launches PD, but I still get the
error when trying to open Audio Settings.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> Can you do a test by modifying the Audio dialog's TCL script? It's in the
> Pd folder: tcl/audio_dialog.tcl
>
> Modify the "set audio_indev" & "set audio_outdev" lines starting at 103
> from:
>
> set audio_indev1 $indev1
>
> to
>
> set audio_indev1 [encoding convertfrom $indev1]
>
> This should convert the device name from the system encoding to UTF8 which
> the Tk GUI should be able to handle.
>
> Basically, modify those lines, then save the file and (re)start Pd. If it
> doesn't appear or crashes right away, then there is a low-level script
> error. It's a good idea to make a backup of the file just in case this
> happens.
>
> We may have to escape more strings throughout the GUI and probably
> re-encode the device strings when sending them back to the pd-core.
>
> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.
>
> In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting
> Pd to English as detailed in https://github.com/pure-
> data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42
>
> Hello,
>
> Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
> Settings:
>
> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
> while executing
> "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
> lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
> ("uplevel" body line 2)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
>
> My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
> https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html), I need to change the
> language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
> would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
> system.
>
> Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
> change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
> would be.
>
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[Dan Wilcox]

Can you do a test by modifying the Audio dialog's TCL script? It's in the Pd 
folder: tcl/audio_dialog.tcl

Modify the "set audio_indev" & "set audio_outdev" lines starting at 103 from:

set audio_indev1 $indev1

to 
  
set audio_indev1 [encoding convertfrom $indev1]

This should convert the device name from the system encoding to UTF8 which the 
Tk GUI should be able to handle.

Basically, modify those lines, then save the file and (re)start Pd. If it 
doesn't appear or crashes right away, then there is a low-level script error. 
It's a good idea to make a backup of the file just in case this happens.

We may have to escape more strings throughout the GUI and probably re-encode 
the device strings when sending them back to the pd-core.

> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.
> 
> In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting Pd 
> to English as detailed in 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42 
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
>> Settings:
>> 
>> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
>> while executing
>> "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
>> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
>> ("uplevel" body line 2)
>> invoked from within
>> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
>> 
>> My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
>> https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html 
>> ), I need to change the
>> language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
>> would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
>> system.
>> 
>> Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
>> change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
>> would be.
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem

[Dan Wilcox]

It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case.

In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting Pd to 
English as detailed in 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42 


> Hello,
> 
> Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
> Settings:
> 
> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
> while executing
> "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
> lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
> ("uplevel" body line 2)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
> 
> My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
> https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html 
> ), I need to change the
> language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
> would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
> system.
> 
> Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
> change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
> would be.


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[PD] Japanese language problem

[S.E.P.]

Hello,

Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio
Settings:

(Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace
while executing
"lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition}
global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..."
("uplevel" body line 2)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $docmds"

My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page (
https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html), I need to change the
language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages
would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this
system.

Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to
change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it
would be.

Best,
Elliot
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