Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

You might wait for some more feedback, but I don't anticipate changing too many 
more of the base strings so far.

You can make a PR to the `feature/docsdir` branch.

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Federico Camara Halac  
> wrote:
> 
> translating: I noticed newer strings. When and where would it be safe to make 
> a PR for spanish before the release?


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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Federico Camara Halac]

>
> I'm not seeing that behavior, unless you mean under the audio or midi
> dialogs which are always on top of other windows when open.
>

You're right. That's what I was encountering.



> I can change the naming of Libraries to Externals, but I am not changing
> the listing behavior for now. Especially after spending time just putting
> it back together after the user search path stuff was removed previously.
>
 That's fine, i'm just being picky now.



> That's because I limited the max # of cols to 3 because there is no
> horizontal scroll bar aka if you keep opening new columns, you can scroll
> back unless you click back or use the keyboard. We can bump the max to 4 if
> you want. I didn't feel like spending another *1-2 whole days* on adding &
> testing browser horz scrolling...
>

Ha! ok, 4 colums should do it, but that's about the limit for 13.3''
display i guess


About the Deken issue, I thought it was it but it wasnt.

I think what happened was that the first time i opened your previous built,
Pd created Pd/externals, and I immediately tried getting gem, and had
issues with the extraction, getting duplicate folders + tar file (same with
zexy, tof, cyclone,etc)

Now I just tried  Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath4.app and Deken could download
and extract Gem perfectly to Pd/extenals

I think it is because pd/externals was already created beforehand, but i
havent tested that


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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

New macOS 10.9+ test build Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath4.app.zip: 
http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ 

Includes latest bug fix from test3-docspath3.


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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Federico Camara Halac  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> I tried Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath3.app.zip on osx 10.11.6
> 
> Paths Documents/Pd, and the sub dir 'externals' were all created
> 
> It also gets added, after about one second delay, with message (log 4), which 
> is puzzling, but i guess needed:
> "
> Pd documents directory: /Users/federicocamarahalac/Documents/Pd
> "

There is 1 second delay after starting the GUI before the docs directory path 
is checked. The print comes after that to confirm the current path at start.

> Whenever I manually change something (verbose, standar paths, add path, etc) 
> and hit OK, I get an app error, with these details:
> 
> invalid command name "1"
> invalid command name "1"
> while executing
> "[::pd_docsdir::update_path $docspath]"
> (procedure "dialog_path::commit" line 21)

Fixed.

> Startup Dialog: Not a huge deal, but it doesn't come to front when another 
> dialog is open.

I'm not seeing that behavior, unless you mean under the audio or midi dialogs 
which are always on top of other windows when open.

> Will this dialog disappear in the future? I think it's going in that direction

If someone wants to work on that, maybe. Probably not me any time soon after 
this release. I have some ideas, but I *really* have to get work on other 
things after this release.

> Side note: In the Pd Browser it shows "-Libraries" and you have them 
> created under "Pd/externals". I know there's been conversations in the list 
> about this, but I wonder if these shouldn't be at least unified temporarily 
> within pd. I believe Deken already says 'externals' everywhere. It would be 
> useful for translating as well. I like "libraries", because it's more 
> encompassing, but this is confusing when the library is of one external, like 
> those in the extra folder. It might be just easier to think of the 'extra' as 
> a library in itself i guess, and have this as a directory entry. 

I can change the naming of Libraries to Externals, but I am not changing the 
listing behavior for now. Especially after spending time just putting it back 
together after the user search path stuff was removed previously.

Browser updates won't appear in the docs path test builds as that work is in 
another branch.

> Pd Browser:
> 
> navigating to more than 3 sub directories are not showing. For example, the 
> only option here is to open up the Finder, with double-click or with Return: 
> 
>   externals/Gem/examples/01.basic

That's because I limited the max # of cols to 3 because there is no horizontal 
scroll bar aka if you keep opening new columns, you can scroll back unless you 
click back or use the keyboard. We can bump the max to 4 if you want. I didn't 
feel like spending another *1-2 whole days* on adding & testing browser horz 
scrolling...

> I had some issues with Deken, where should I write these? 

Open an issue on the deken GitHub repo: 
https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues 




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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

Yes, my build will probably not run on anything older than macOS 10.9.

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 11:46 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> I can't give feedback on this. I'm running osx 10.6 on a virtual machine.
> 
> Terminal:
> 
> exit;
> Illegal instruction
> logout
> 
> :-(
> 
> 10.6 is rather old.


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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Federico Camara Halac]

Hi Dan,

I tried Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath3.app.zip on osx 10.11.6

Paths Documents/Pd, and the sub dir 'externals' were all created

It also gets added, after about one second delay, with message (log 4),
which is puzzling, but i guess needed:
"
Pd documents directory: /Users/federicocamarahalac/Documents/Pd
"

Whenever I manually change something (verbose, standar paths, add path,
etc) and hit OK, I get an app error, with these details:


invalid command name "1"

invalid command name "1"

while executing

"[::pd_docsdir::update_path $docspath]"

(procedure "dialog_path::commit" line 21)

invoked from within

"$commit_method $listdata"

(procedure "do_apply" line 2)

invoked from within

"do_apply $mytoplevel $commit_method $listdata"

(procedure "::scrollboxwindow::ok" line 4)

invoked from within

"::scrollboxwindow::ok .gfxstub79f80d60 dialog_path::commit"

invoked from within

".gfxstub79f80d60.nb.buttonframe.ok invoke"

("uplevel" body line 1)

invoked from within

"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"

(procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 23)

invoked from within

"tk::ButtonUp .gfxstub79f80d60.nb.buttonframe.ok"

(command bound to event)


Changes get made, though, so the error is puzzling. Other dialogs works
fine.

Startup Dialog: Not a huge deal, but it doesn't come to front when another
dialog is open. Will this dialog disappear in the future? I think it's
going in that direction

Side note: In the Pd Browser it shows "-Libraries" and you have
them created under "Pd/externals". I know there's been conversations in the
list about this, but I wonder if these shouldn't be at least unified
temporarily within pd. I believe Deken already says 'externals' everywhere.
It would be useful for translating as well. I like "libraries", because
it's more encompassing, but this is confusing when the library is of one
external, like those in the extra folder. It might be just easier to think
of the 'extra' as a library in itself i guess, and have this as a directory
entry.


Pd Browser:

navigating to more than 3 sub directories are not showing. For example, the
only option here is to open up the Finder, with double-click or with
Return:

  externals/Gem/examples/01.basic



I had some issues with Deken, where should I write these?


Thanks for all the changes, you're really sharpening the hell out of the
gui.. Very nice!!

fede

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> There is a new macOS test build with the Pd documents directory feature
> with bugfixes: Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath2.app.zip at
> http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
>
>
> This also includes other bug fixes from the past couple of days.
>
> On Aug 2, 2017, at 1:49 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is
> available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.
> danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
>
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/
> pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
>
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents
> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>
> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>
> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
>
> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches
> and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is
> not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it
> can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits
> Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for
> externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once
> set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs
> to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
>
> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories
> to the user search paths via a popup after download.
>
> *mic drop*
>
> sleep
>
>
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Lucas Cordiviola]

I can't give feedback on this. I'm running osx 10.6 on a virtual machine.

Terminal:

exit;
Illegal instruction
logout

:-(

10.6 is rather old.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

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> There is a new macOS test build with the Pd documents directory 
> feature with bugfixes: Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath2.app.zip at 
> http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
>
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

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There is a new macOS test build with the Pd documents directory feature with 
bugfixes: Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath2.app.zip at 
http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ 
This also includes other bug fixes from the past couple of days.

> On Aug 2, 2017, at 1:49 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, 
> look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: 
> http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Here's the PR and relevant details: 
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
>>> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>>> 
>>> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc 
>>> 
>>> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches 
>>> and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is 
>>> not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it 
>>> can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits 
>>> Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for 
>>> externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once 
>>> set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs 
>>> to help those new to filesystem hierarchy. 
>>> 
>>> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to 
>>> the user search paths via a popup after download.
>>> 
>>> *mic drop*
>>> 
>>> sleep
>> 
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

Not everyone may want this functionality... Disabling it means Pd won't nag you 
if the docs path is not set and new/open panels start in the home directory (as 
before), not the docs path.

The other stuff you are seeing are bugs from my rewrite earlier today, so easy 
fixes. Please post bugs only to the GitHub PR. 

> On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:15 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres  wrote:
> 
> I don't know what "disabling" the Pd Documents folder is supposed to do


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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

PLEASE

Post to the GitHub PR.

Also, the help browser issue is fixed in a different branch.

> On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:15 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres  wrote:
> 
> Second report:
> 
> - I don't know what "disabling" the Pd Documents folder is supposed to do, 
> but I just get an error
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-08-01 21:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres  >:
> Ok, first bug report:
> 
> - if I choose a different Externals install Directory other than the 
> "externals" subfolder (say "libs" for example) and hit ok, it still creates 
> an "externals" subdirectory and adds it to the search path, whereas "libs" is 
> not added! Though deken still asks me to download to "libs". As I see, it 
> shouldn't create "externals" nor add it to the path, and then add "libs" to 
> the path.
> 
> 2017-08-01 20:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres  >:
> Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's 
> because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?
> 
> 2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox  >:
> A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, 
> look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: 
> http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Here's the PR and relevant details: 
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
>>> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>>> 
>>> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc 
>>> 
>>> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches 
>>> and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is 
>>> not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it 
>>> can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits 
>>> Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for 
>>> externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once 
>>> set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs 
>>> to help those new to filesystem hierarchy. 
>>> 
>>> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to 
>>> the user search paths via a popup after download.
>>> 
>>> *mic drop*
>>> 
>>> sleep
>> 
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Ok, first bug report:

- if I choose a different *Externals install Directory* other than the
"externals" subfolder (say "libs" for example) and hit ok, it still creates
an "externals" subdirectory and adds it to the search path, whereas "libs"
is not added! Though deken still asks me to download to "libs". As I see,
it shouldn't create "externals" nor add it to the path, and then add "libs"
to the path.

2017-08-01 20:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's
> because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?
>
> 2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox :
>
>> A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is
>> available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip:
>> http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>>
>> Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/pu
>> re-data/pure-data/pull/152
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>>
>> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents
>> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>>
>> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>>
>> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
>>
>> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches
>> and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is
>> not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it
>> can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits
>> Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for
>> externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once
>> set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs
>> to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
>>
>> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories
>> to the user search paths via a popup after download.
>>
>> *mic drop*
>>
>> sleep
>>
>>
>> 
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[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Cool, I still don't see the added folder in the help browser, but that's
because of another issue that's being solved in parallel, right?

2017-08-01 20:49 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox :

> A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is
> available, look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.
> danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
>
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> Here's the PR and relevant details: https://github.com/
> pure-data/pure-data/pull/152
>
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents
> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>
> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>
> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
>
> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches
> and externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is
> not set when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it
> can be changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits
> Cancel, the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for
> externals is also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once
> set, the docs path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs
> to help those new to filesystem hierarchy.
>
> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories
> to the user search paths via a popup after download.
>
> *mic drop*
>
> sleep
>
>
> 
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

A macOS test build with the docspath (Pd Documents directory) is available, 
look for Pd-0.48.0-test6-docspath.app.zip: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ 


> On Jul 31, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Here's the PR and relevant details: 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/152 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
>> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>> 
>> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>> 
>> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc 
>> 
>> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and 
>> externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set 
>> when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be 
>> changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, 
>> the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is 
>> also created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs 
>> path becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those 
>> new to filesystem hierarchy. 
>> 
>> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to 
>> the user search paths via a popup after download.
>> 
>> *mic drop*
>> 
>> sleep
> 
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

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+1

!!!

> On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:43 AM, Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at> wrote:
> 
> Dan, this is brilliant! This makes it dead simple for beginners to get 
> started. I also love the docs path setting! Hope this will be merged in!
>  
>  
> 
> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 um 02:32 Uhr
> Von: "Dan Wilcox" <danomat...@gmail.com>
> An: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
> Betreff: [PD] Pd documents path proposal
> 
> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
>  
> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
>  
> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
>  
> 
> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and 
> externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set 
> when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be 
> changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, 
> the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also 
> created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path 
> becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to 
> filesystem hierarchy. 
>  
> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to 
> the user search paths via a popup after download.
>  
> *mic drop*
>  
> sleep 
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Christof Ressi]

Dan, this is brilliant! This makes it dead simple for beginners to get started. 
I also love the docs path setting! Hope this will be merged in!
 
 

Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 um 02:32 Uhr
Von: "Dan Wilcox" <danomat...@gmail.com>
An: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
Betreff: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
 
Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
 
Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
 

The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and 
externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set 
when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be 
changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, 
the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also 
created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path 
becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to 
filesystem hierarchy. 
 
Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the 
user search paths via a popup after download.
 
*mic drop*
 
sleep 


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika[http://twitter.com/danomatika]
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Re: [PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Jesse Mejia]

This is great!! Thanks so much Dan! Ideal!


> On Jul 30, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
> directory. Also includes deken-workingness.
> 
> Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.
> 
> Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc
> 
> The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and 
> externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set 
> when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be 
> changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, 
> the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also 
> created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path 
> becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to 
> filesystem hierarchy. 
> 
> Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to 
> the user search paths via a popup after download.
> 
> *mic drop*
> 
> sleep
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
> 
> 
> 
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[PD] Pd documents path proposal

[Dan Wilcox]

Here is my *working* proposal for beginner-friendliness: the Pd Documents 
directory. Also includes deken-workingness.

Thanks to Miller for the new "add-to-path" message.

Video demo: https://youtu.be/YWMnynyIeoc 

The documents path is an optional beginner-friendly location for patches and 
externals and defaults to USERHOME/Documents/Pd. If the docs path is not set 
when Pd is started, the user is prompted about creating it and it can be 
changed or disabled in the Path preferences dialog. If the user hits Cancel, 
the docs path functionality is disabled. A subdirectory for externals is also 
created and is set as the deken install directory. Once set, the docs path 
becomes the preferred initial directory for file dialogs to help those new to 
filesystem hierarchy. 

Included in this work: deken can now optionally add external directories to the 
user search paths via a popup after download.

*mic drop*

sleep


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
danomatika.com 
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