Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-30 Thread Dan Wilcox
You can use aconnectgui if you don't want to use qjackctl.

Also, you can use the device name with aconnect. Here's an excerpt of a script 
I rote to start Pd on my wearable 10 years ago. The trick is that you need to 
wait until Pd sets up its MIDI ports before trying to connect to them in a 
script.

-

echo "rc_starts_pd: strating pd"
pd -rt -nogui -alsa -audiodev 4 -audiobuf 10 -alsamidi $PATCH &

# wait for pd to initialize
KA=$(aconnect -i -o | grep "Pure Data")
while [ "$KA" = "" ]
do
sleep 1
echo "rc_starts_pd: pd alsamidi not ready"
KA=$(aconnect -i -o | grep "Pure Data")
done
echo "rc_starts_pd: pd alsmidi is ready"

# connect the UA-25 midi to Pure Data
echo "rc_starts_pd: alsa midi connect 'UA-25' <-> 'Pure Data'"
aconnect 'UA-25' 'Pure Data'
aconnect 'Pure Data':1 'UA-25':0

-

> On Nov 30, 2018, at 4:57 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:47:21 +0100
> From: "Ingo" mailto:i...@miamiwave.com>>
> To: "'Jaime Oliver'"  <mailto:jaime.oliv...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: "'Pd-List'" mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian
>   9.5)
> Message-ID: <002b01d488c3$fb7c13c0$f2743b40$@miamiwave.com 
> <mailto:002b01d488c3$fb7c13c0$f2743b40$@miamiwave.com>>
> 
> Thanks, Jamie!
> 
> got it finally to connect or disconnect now.
> 
> I didn't have the correct client and ID numbers.
> I'll have to find a way to retrieve the port number of an unknown USB 
> interface first automatically before I can connect it to Pd automatically.
> I couldn't find any way to connect an existing new port without knowing its 
> number.
> 
> I tried   aconnect *:0 128:0  instead of  aconnect 24:0 128:0 
> but it didn't work.
> Obviously havin * become 128 would cause a feedback loop - so it makes sense 
> not to work.
> 
> I had also installed qjackctl as IOhannes suggested.
> This also works.


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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-30 Thread Dan Wilcox
Pd on macOS uses portmidi for it's backend and portmidi, like portaudio, does 
not support device hot plugging.

I imagine it works on Linux using the alsamidi backend instead...

> On Nov 30, 2018, at 5:49 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:29:41 +0100
> From: Simon Iten mailto:itensi...@gmail.com>>
> To: Ingo mailto:i...@miamiwave.com>>
> Cc: Jaime Oliver mailto:jaime.oliv...@gmail.com>>, 
> Pd-List
>   mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian
>   9.5)
> Message-ID:  <mailto:c3b84f2e-b351-44b8-9208-d1f49f5b1...@gmail.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> on osx at least you had to restart pd for new midi devices to work since 
> “ages”… (not talking about extended)


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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-30 Thread Ingo
Thanks, Jamie!

got it finally to connect or disconnect now.

I didn't have the correct client and ID numbers.
I'll have to find a way to retrieve the port number of an unknown USB 
interface first automatically before I can connect it to Pd automatically.
I couldn't find any way to connect an existing new port without knowing its 
number.

I tried aconnect *:0 128:0  instead of  aconnect 24:0 128:0 but it 
didn't work.
Obviously havin * become 128 would cause a feedback loop - so it makes sense 
not to work.

I had also installed qjackctl as IOhannes suggested.
This also works.

Thanks, IOhannes!

But I would have to figure out how to connect the ports without the graphical 
part by command lines.
I'll check both options. Aconnect seems to be the way to go for now.

Thanks everybody!
I'm on my way to have it back to the way it used to be with a few more tweaks.

Now I only have to get my write protected OS to boot up which seems to be 
different on Debian Stretch as compared to my old Ubuntu.


Ingo



From: Ingo [mailto:i...@miamiwave.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:05 PM
To: 'Jaime Oliver'
Cc: 'Pd-List'
Subject: RE: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

Exactly!
connect with any option does not connect the MIDI devices to Pd while running 
Pd.

I tried aconnect -l, aconnect -i, aconnect -o, aconnect -d, aconnect -e and 
aconnect -x from Pd with [shell] and from a terminal.
I tried alsa-midi and oss-midi with or without sending the midi-dialog.

aconnect -i, aconnect -o and aconnect -l listed the USB-MIDI interface 
correctly but did not connect it.
The Pd console says:

opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 output device(s)

Using OSS-MIDI nothing further happened.
Using ALSA-MIDI it crashed after alsaconnect -i and sending any midi-dialog 
like  [1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 4 4( or  [2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 4 4( twice.

When connecting the USB device during startup of Pd it works fine - but 
aconnect -d or -x does not disconnect it either.

I just noticed that on my machine that I used for testing Pd 0.47.1 was 
installed.
Were there any changes since 0.47.1 and 0.48.1?
I have another box with 0.48.1 installed and will try again tomorrow.

Ingo




From: Jaime Oliver [mailto:jaime.oliv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:26 PM
To: i...@fixitinthemix.de
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

you mean "aconnect -l" in the terminal does not give you any devices?

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:25 PM Ingo  wrote:
Doesn't work here.



From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Jaime Oliver
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:48 PM
To: IOhannes m zmoelnig
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

You can also use alsa-midi in pd and "aconnect" to connect your device to pd
without using jack.
J

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:
On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
> Mmmhh,
>
> I really don't want to use jack for this.

i didn't propose anything with jack.
qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
- jack audio connections
- jack midi connections
- alsa midi connections

i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent
of of JACK.

qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd
once they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.

i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.


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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Simon Iten
on osx at least you had to restart pd for new midi devices to work since 
“ages”… (not talking about extended)

> On 29 Nov 2018, at 23:05, Ingo  wrote:
> 
> Exactly!
> connect with any option does not connect the MIDI devices to Pd while running 
> Pd.
>  
> I tried aconnect -l, aconnect -i, aconnect -o, aconnect -d, aconnect -e and 
> aconnect -x from Pd with [shell] and from a terminal.
> I tried alsa-midi and oss-midi with or without sending the midi-dialog.
>  
> aconnect -i, aconnect -o and aconnect -l listed the USB-MIDI interface 
> correctly but did not connect it.
> The Pd console says:
>  
> opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 output device(s)
>  
> Using OSS-MIDI nothing further happened.
> Using ALSA-MIDI it crashed after alsaconnect -i and sending any midi-dialog 
> like  [1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 4 4( or  [2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 4 4( twice.
>  
> When connecting the USB device during startup of Pd it works fine - but 
> aconnect -d or -x does not disconnect it either.
>  
> I just noticed that on my machine that I used for testing Pd 0.47.1 was 
> installed.
> Were there any changes since 0.47.1 and 0.48.1?
> I have another box with 0.48.1 installed and will try again tomorrow.
>  
> Ingo
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: Jaime Oliver [mailto:jaime.oliv...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:26 PM
> To: i...@fixitinthemix.de
> Cc: Pd-List
> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
>  
> you mean "aconnect -l" in the terminal does not give you any devices?
>  
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:25 PM Ingo  <mailto:i...@fixitinthemix.de>> wrote:
>> Doesn't work here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at 
>> <mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at>] On Behalf Of Jaime Oliver
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:48 PM
>> To: IOhannes m zmoelnig
>> Cc: Pd-List
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
>> 
>> You can also use alsa-midi in pd and "aconnect" to connect your device to pd 
>> without using jack.
>> J
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM IOhannes m zmölnig > <mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> wrote:
>> On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
>> > Mmmhh,
>> >
>> > I really don't want to use jack for this.
>> 
>> i didn't propose anything with jack.
>> qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
>> - jack audio connections
>> - jack midi connections
>> - alsa midi connections
>> 
>> i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent
>> of of JACK.
>> 
>> qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd
>> once they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.
>> 
>> i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.
>> 
>> 
>> fmadr
>> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Ingo
Exactly!

connect with any option does not connect the MIDI devices to Pd while running 
Pd.

 

I tried aconnect -l, aconnect -i, aconnect -o, aconnect -d, aconnect -e and 
aconnect -x from Pd with [shell] and from a terminal.

I tried alsa-midi and oss-midi with or without sending the midi-dialog.

 

aconnect -i, aconnect -o and aconnect -l listed the USB-MIDI interface 
correctly but did not connect it.

The Pd console says:

 

opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 output device(s)

 

Using OSS-MIDI nothing further happened.

Using ALSA-MIDI it crashed after alsaconnect -i and sending any midi-dialog 
like  [1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 4 4( or  [2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 4 4( twice.

 

When connecting the USB device during startup of Pd it works fine - but 
aconnect -d or -x does not disconnect it either.

 

I just noticed that on my machine that I used for testing Pd 0.47.1 was 
installed.

Were there any changes since 0.47.1 and 0.48.1?
I have another box with 0.48.1 installed and will try again tomorrow.

 

Ingo

 

 

 

 

From: Jaime Oliver [mailto:jaime.oliv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:26 PM
To: i...@fixitinthemix.de
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

 

you mean "aconnect -l" in the terminal does not give you any devices?

 

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:25 PM Ingo mailto:i...@fixitinthemix.de> > wrote:

Doesn't work here.



From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at 
<mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at> ] On Behalf Of Jaime Oliver
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:48 PM
To: IOhannes m zmoelnig
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

You can also use alsa-midi in pd and "aconnect" to connect your device to pd 
without using jack.
J

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM IOhannes m zmölnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at> > wrote:
On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
> Mmmhh,
>
> I really don't want to use jack for this.

i didn't propose anything with jack.
qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
- jack audio connections
- jack midi connections
- alsa midi connections

i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent
of of JACK.

qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd
once they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.

i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.


fmadr
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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Jaime Oliver
you mean "aconnect -l" in the terminal does not give you any devices?

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:25 PM Ingo  wrote:

> Doesn't work here.
>
>
>
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Jaime
> Oliver
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:48 PM
> To: IOhannes m zmoelnig
> Cc: Pd-List
> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
>
> You can also use alsa-midi in pd and "aconnect" to connect your device to
> pd
> without using jack.
> J
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM IOhannes m zmölnig 
> wrote:
> On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
> > Mmmhh,
> >
> > I really don't want to use jack for this.
>
> i didn't propose anything with jack.
> qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
> - jack audio connections
> - jack midi connections
> - alsa midi connections
>
> i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent
> of of JACK.
>
> qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd
> once they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.
>
> i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.
>
>
> fmadr
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Ingo
It was working fine on Pd-extended.
Once you opened the midi dialog or sent a pd-message with the settings new 
MIDIinterfaces were there.

I was monitoring the /dev/ folder every 2 or 3 seconds to see if midi1, midi2, 
midi3 or midi 4 was present or better has changed.
If a change happened I sent the message with the MIDI setup to Pd and the new 
devices were there.

e.g. [pd midi-dialog 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4  4 4(  meaning open input 1,2,3 and 4 
and 
output 1,2,3 and 4.
(1st 4 digits are inputs, 2nd four digits are outputs, then number of midi ins 
and number of midi outs)

Now this doesn't do anything anymore.

Ingo



> -Original Message-
> From: Christof Ressi [mailto:christof.re...@gmx.at]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:47 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Aw: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian
> 9.5)
>
> > I cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.
>
> just curious: did this actually work before? at least on Windows I've always
> had to restart Pd when I plug in a new MIDI device, but maybe that's because
> of portmidi.
>
> Christof
>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. November 2018 um 18:56 Uhr
> > Von: Ingo 
> > An: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian
> > 9.5)
> >
> > Mmmhh,
> >
> > I really don't want to use jack for this.
> > I simply need to know what I can do so that Pd sees new MIDI
> > interfaces when I reload the the midi dialog after connecting a new USB
> MIDI device.
> >
> > The way it was on Pd-exended was that Pd would search for MIDI devices
> > when when you opened the MIDI dialog "OSS-MIDI" while running Pd.
> > Now it doesn't do this anymore ...
> >
> > Pd actually ignores the Media/MIDI settings.
> > If I set the input to "none" and hit apply it still uses the MIDI
> > input from the startup - even though it shows "none" in the MIDI settings.
> > Please someone tell me that there is a way to do this!
> >
> > Is there any kind of a command to send to Pd to update the MIDI device
> list?
> > I really need to stay compatible with my previous software and
> > operating systems.
> > Reloading the patch is not an option.
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
> > > IOhannes m zmoelnig
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:47 AM
> > > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > > Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1
> > > (Debian 9.5)
> > >
> > > On 29.11.18 09:27, Ingo wrote:
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > I know this has been coverd before but somehow I can't find it.
> > > >
> > > > I'm having a problem that after switching to Pd 0.48.1 on Debian
> > > > 9.5 I cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting
> Pd.
> > > > Can anybody tell me how to do this or point me to the relevant
> > > information?
> > > >
> > > > I used to simply recall the MIDI dialog and it was there - that's
> > > > not the case anymore.
> > > >
> > >
> > > use alsa-midi and some external software (like qjackctl) to manage
> > > the connection between the devices and Pd.
> > >
> > > fmasdr
> > > IOhannes
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Ingo
Oh, I see.

I'll give it a try and see if it works with OSS-MIDI.

Thanks
Ingo



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> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes m
> zmölnig
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:41 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
>
> On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
> > Mmmhh,
> >
> > I really don't want to use jack for this.
>
> i didn't propose anything with jack.
> qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
> - jack audio connections
> - jack midi connections
> - alsa midi connections
>
> i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent of of
> JACK.
>
> qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd once
> they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.
>
> i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.
>
>
> fmadr
> IOhannes






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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Jaime Oliver
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:49 PM Christof Ressi 
wrote:

> > I cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.
>
> just curious: did this actually work before? at least on Windows I've
> always had to restart Pd when I plug in a new MIDI device, but maybe that's
> because of portmidi.
>

yes!

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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Jaime Oliver
You can also use alsa-midi in pd and "aconnect" to connect your device to
pd without using jack.
J

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:

> On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
> > Mmmhh,
> >
> > I really don't want to use jack for this.
>
> i didn't propose anything with jack.
> qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
> - jack audio connections
> - jack midi connections
> - alsa midi connections
>
> i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent
> of of JACK.
>
> qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd
> once they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.
>
> i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.
>
>
> fmadr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Christof Ressi
> I cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.

just curious: did this actually work before? at least on Windows I've always 
had to restart Pd when I plug in a new MIDI device, but maybe that's because of 
portmidi.

Christof

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. November 2018 um 18:56 Uhr
> Von: Ingo 
> An: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
>
> Mmmhh,
> 
> I really don't want to use jack for this.
> I simply need to know what I can do so that Pd sees new MIDI interfaces when 
> I 
> reload the the midi dialog after connecting a new USB MIDI device.
> 
> The way it was on Pd-exended was that Pd would search for MIDI devices when 
> when you opened the MIDI dialog "OSS-MIDI" while running Pd.
> Now it doesn't do this anymore ...
> 
> Pd actually ignores the Media/MIDI settings.
> If I set the input to "none" and hit apply it still uses the MIDI input from 
> the startup - even though it shows "none" in the MIDI settings.
> Please someone tell me that there is a way to do this!
> 
> Is there any kind of a command to send to Pd to update the MIDI device list?
> I really need to stay compatible with my previous software and operating 
> systems.
> Reloading the patch is not an option.
> 
> Ingo
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes m
> > zmoelnig
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:47 AM
> > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
> >
> > On 29.11.18 09:27, Ingo wrote:
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > I know this has been coverd before but somehow I can't find it.
> > >
> > > I'm having a problem that after switching to Pd 0.48.1 on Debian 9.5 I
> > > cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.
> > > Can anybody tell me how to do this or point me to the relevant
> > information?
> > >
> > > I used to simply recall the MIDI dialog and it was there - that's not
> > > the case anymore.
> > >
> >
> > use alsa-midi and some external software (like qjackctl) to manage the
> > connection between the devices and Pd.
> >
> > fmasdr
> > IOhannes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 11/29/18 6:56 PM, Ingo wrote:
> Mmmhh,
> 
> I really don't want to use jack for this.

i didn't propose anything with jack.
qjackctl (despite it's name) is a tool that allows to manage
- jack audio connections
- jack midi connections
- alsa midi connections

i was only talking about the last option, which is totally independent
of of JACK.

qjcackctl would allow you to magically connect your new devices to Pd
once they are plugged in, without having the need to open any dialog.

i don't know about OSS-MIDI. i never use it.


fmadr
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Ingo
Mmmhh,

I really don't want to use jack for this.
I simply need to know what I can do so that Pd sees new MIDI interfaces when I 
reload the the midi dialog after connecting a new USB MIDI device.

The way it was on Pd-exended was that Pd would search for MIDI devices when 
when you opened the MIDI dialog "OSS-MIDI" while running Pd.
Now it doesn't do this anymore ...

Pd actually ignores the Media/MIDI settings.
If I set the input to "none" and hit apply it still uses the MIDI input from 
the startup - even though it shows "none" in the MIDI settings.
Please someone tell me that there is a way to do this!

Is there any kind of a command to send to Pd to update the MIDI device list?
I really need to stay compatible with my previous software and operating 
systems.
Reloading the patch is not an option.

Ingo



> -Original Message-
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of IOhannes m
> zmoelnig
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:47 AM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)
>
> On 29.11.18 09:27, Ingo wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I know this has been coverd before but somehow I can't find it.
> >
> > I'm having a problem that after switching to Pd 0.48.1 on Debian 9.5 I
> > cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.
> > Can anybody tell me how to do this or point me to the relevant
> information?
> >
> > I used to simply recall the MIDI dialog and it was there - that's not
> > the case anymore.
> >
>
> use alsa-midi and some external software (like qjackctl) to manage the
> connection between the devices and Pd.
>
> fmasdr
> IOhannes






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Re: [PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 29.11.18 09:27, Ingo wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I know this has been coverd before but somehow I can't find it.
> 
> I'm having a problem that after switching to Pd 0.48.1 on Debian 9.5 I
> cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.
> Can anybody tell me how to do this or point me to the relevant information?
> 
> I used to simply recall the MIDI dialog and it was there - that's not the
> case anymore.
> 

use alsa-midi and some external software (like qjackctl) to manage the
connection between the devices and Pd.

fmasdr
IOhannes



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[PD] Recognizing USB MIDI interfaces on Pd 0.48.1 (Debian 9.5)

2018-11-29 Thread Ingo
Hi everybody,

I know this has been coverd before but somehow I can't find it.

I'm having a problem that after switching to Pd 0.48.1 on Debian 9.5 I
cannot recognize USB MIDI interfaces anymore without restarting Pd.
Can anybody tell me how to do this or point me to the relevant information?

I used to simply recall the MIDI dialog and it was there - that's not the
case anymore.

Thanks a lot!
Ingo





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