Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Julian Brooks]

Hey Alexandre,

Glad you got it sorted.

Hope you don't mind me saying... it's not good form to be dissing those
offering assistance (esp. when asking for more help). Wouldn't have
troubled you to just upload the object, and your responses came over a bit
arsey to be honest (though am sure they weren't meant to be:).

Peace amigo,

Julian

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 18:15, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> SOLVED!
>
> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 15:30, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>>
>> My best guess was to comment out line 455  - if (glist->gl_havewindow) -
>> in the comment_vis method, but that wasn't it, and all the other
>> attempts I did were more gratuitous guesses that led nowhere.
>>
>
> I was close!  If I also comment out the  if (!glist->gl_havewindow) function
> set in line 331, it shows up!!!
>
> Now I need more experiments so I can better understand all this. But hey,
> did it!
>
> Thanks anyway! If anyone has more guides and hints on learning how to code
> GUIs, I'd appreciate it.
>
> cheers
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

SOLVED!

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 15:30, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

>
> My best guess was to comment out line 455  - if (glist->gl_havewindow) -
> in the comment_vis method, but that wasn't it, and all the other attempts
> I did were more gratuitous guesses that led nowhere.
>

I was close!  If I also comment out the  if (!glist->gl_havewindow) function
set in line 331, it shows up!!!

Now I need more experiments so I can better understand all this. But hey,
did it!

Thanks anyway! If anyone has more guides and hints on learning how to code
GUIs, I'd appreciate it.

cheers
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

There's no need to test it, it's been tested and it ain't visible inside a
subpatch with GOP, no doubt about it. I just needed help in the code to
figure out how to make it visible or what's wrong with it:
https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/blob/master/cyclone_
objects/binaries/control/comment.c - a test patch makes more sense if you
were trying to edit this code and see if it'd work after compiling it.

My best guess was to comment out line 455  - if (glist->gl_havewindow) - in
the comment_vis method, but that wasn't it, and all the other attempts I
did were more gratuitous guesses that led nowhere.

Still trying to figure it out though

cheers

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 14:57, Simon Iten 
escreveu:

> and i would gladly test it, if the external would be included, but i have
> no intention to install the whole cyclone package.
>
>
>
> On 13 Feb 2019, at 17:05, Simon Iten  wrote:
>
> thanks, yes that was it. :-)
>
>
> On 13 Feb 2019, at 16:56, Lucas Cordiviola  wrote:
>
> I think Simon was saying that he external was not included in the "Attach"
> of the "test patch" you send a couple of messages back in this thread.
>
>
> :)
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 2/13/2019 12:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> I can only assume you're trying to load this object in purr data, if so, I
> have to say:
>
> - This is not the pd-l2ork/purr data list :)
> - All GUI objects in Purr Data had to be rewritten as it uses a different
> programming language. So no GUI object written for Pure Data in tcl/tk
> works in Purr Data. Not only that, but other objects that are seemingly not
> a GUI (that is, they're a regular object box) may use tcl/tk and won't work
> in Purr either.
> - Purr Data ported many (about most) of Pd Extended's objects, but they
> did not port [comment], so it isn't included, and this is why I'm assuming
> you tried this there. There are other objects from cyclone that haven't
> been fully ported either as they use tcl/tk. Moreover, cyclone is outdated
> in Purr Data, so any developments and code from my repository in the last 3
> years are not part of Purr Data. And again, even if it was the case that
> this had been ported and updated in Purr, it uses a different language, so
> it wouldn't be the case.
>
> Other than that, if you're in Vanilla or Extended, I can't think of
> anything in this universe that would explain why you have cyclone with
> [comment] not included but other with objects working...
>
> cheers
>
> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 11:23, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You
>> can test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the
>>> console for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
>>>
>>> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's
>>> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
>>>
>>> here's a test patch
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
 On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
 > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to
 update
 > in cyclone, and I need help.

 so what is the problem?

 fgsmdr
 IOhannes

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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Simon Iten]

and i would gladly test it, if the external would be included, but i have no 
intention to install the whole cyclone package.



> On 13 Feb 2019, at 17:05, Simon Iten  wrote:
> 
> thanks, yes that was it. :-)
> 
> 
>> On 13 Feb 2019, at 16:56, Lucas Cordiviola > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think Simon was saying that he external was not included in the "Attach" 
>> of the "test patch" you send a couple of messages back in this thread.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>> On 2/13/2019 12:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>> I can only assume you're trying to load this object in purr data, if so, I 
>>> have to say:
>>> 
>>> - This is not the pd-l2ork/purr data list :) 
>>> - All GUI objects in Purr Data had to be rewritten as it uses a different 
>>> programming language. So no GUI object written for Pure Data in tcl/tk 
>>> works in Purr Data. Not only that, but other objects that are seemingly not 
>>> a GUI (that is, they're a regular object box) may use tcl/tk and won't work 
>>> in Purr either.
>>> - Purr Data ported many (about most) of Pd Extended's objects, but they did 
>>> not port [comment], so it isn't included, and this is why I'm assuming you 
>>> tried this there. There are other objects from cyclone that haven't been 
>>> fully ported either as they use tcl/tk. Moreover, cyclone is outdated in 
>>> Purr Data, so any developments and code from my repository in the last 3 
>>> years are not part of Purr Data. And again, even if it was the case that 
>>> this had been ported and updated in Purr, it uses a different language, so 
>>> it wouldn't be the case.
>>> 
>>> Other than that, if you're in Vanilla or Extended, I can't think of 
>>> anything in this universe that would explain why you have cyclone with 
>>> [comment] not included but other with objects working...
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 11:23, Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>> mailto:por...@gmail.com>> escreveu:
>>> what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You 
>>> can test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten >> > escreveu:
>>> since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the 
>>> console for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres >>> > wrote:
 
 The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
 
 Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's 
 comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
 
 here's a test patch
 
 cheers
 
 
 Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig >>> > escreveu:
 On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
 > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to 
 > update
 > in cyclone, and I need help.
 
 so what is the problem?
 
 fgsmdr
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

I think Simon was saying that he external was not included in the "Attach" of 
the "test patch" you send a couple of messages back in this thread.


:)

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 2/13/2019 12:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I can only assume you're trying to load this object in purr data, if so, I have 
to say:

- This is not the pd-l2ork/purr data list :)
- All GUI objects in Purr Data had to be rewritten as it uses a different 
programming language. So no GUI object written for Pure Data in tcl/tk works in 
Purr Data. Not only that, but other objects that are seemingly not a GUI (that 
is, they're a regular object box) may use tcl/tk and won't work in Purr either.
- Purr Data ported many (about most) of Pd Extended's objects, but they did not 
port [comment], so it isn't included, and this is why I'm assuming you tried 
this there. There are other objects from cyclone that haven't been fully ported 
either as they use tcl/tk. Moreover, cyclone is outdated in Purr Data, so any 
developments and code from my repository in the last 3 years are not part of 
Purr Data. And again, even if it was the case that this had been ported and 
updated in Purr, it uses a different language, so it wouldn't be the case.

Other than that, if you're in Vanilla or Extended, I can't think of anything in 
this universe that would explain why you have cyclone with [comment] not 
included but other with objects working...

cheers

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 11:23, Alexandre Torres Porres 
mailto:por...@gmail.com>> escreveu:
what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You can 
test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?

cheers

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten 
mailto:itensi...@gmail.com>> escreveu:
since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the console 
for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…


On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres 
mailto:por...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).

Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's 
comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.

here's a test patch

cheers


Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> escreveu:
On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to update
> in cyclone, and I need help.

so what is the problem?

fgsmdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Simon Iten]

thanks, yes that was it. :-)


> On 13 Feb 2019, at 16:56, Lucas Cordiviola  wrote:
> 
> I think Simon was saying that he external was not included in the "Attach" of 
> the "test patch" you send a couple of messages back in this thread.
> 
> 
> 
> :)
> 
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
> On 2/13/2019 12:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> I can only assume you're trying to load this object in purr data, if so, I 
>> have to say:
>> 
>> - This is not the pd-l2ork/purr data list :) 
>> - All GUI objects in Purr Data had to be rewritten as it uses a different 
>> programming language. So no GUI object written for Pure Data in tcl/tk works 
>> in Purr Data. Not only that, but other objects that are seemingly not a GUI 
>> (that is, they're a regular object box) may use tcl/tk and won't work in 
>> Purr either.
>> - Purr Data ported many (about most) of Pd Extended's objects, but they did 
>> not port [comment], so it isn't included, and this is why I'm assuming you 
>> tried this there. There are other objects from cyclone that haven't been 
>> fully ported either as they use tcl/tk. Moreover, cyclone is outdated in 
>> Purr Data, so any developments and code from my repository in the last 3 
>> years are not part of Purr Data. And again, even if it was the case that 
>> this had been ported and updated in Purr, it uses a different language, so 
>> it wouldn't be the case.
>> 
>> Other than that, if you're in Vanilla or Extended, I can't think of anything 
>> in this universe that would explain why you have cyclone with [comment] not 
>> included but other with objects working...
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 11:23, Alexandre Torres Porres 
>> mailto:por...@gmail.com>> escreveu:
>> what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You 
>> can test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten > > escreveu:
>> since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the console 
>> for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
>>> 
>>> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's 
>>> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
>>> 
>>> here's a test patch
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig >> > escreveu:
>>> On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>> > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to 
>>> > update
>>> > in cyclone, and I need help.
>>> 
>>> so what is the problem?
>>> 
>>> fgsmdr
>>> IOhannes
>>> 
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

oh, well, then cyclone is easily available via deken or here :)
https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases/tag/cyclone0.3rc1 - we're
only missing Linux32 and arm/pi binaries

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 13:56, Lucas Cordiviola 
escreveu:

> I think Simon was saying that he external was not included in the "Attach"
> of the "test patch" you send a couple of messages back in this thread.
>
>
> :)
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 2/13/2019 12:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> I can only assume you're trying to load this object in purr data, if so, I
> have to say:
>
> - This is not the pd-l2ork/purr data list :)
> - All GUI objects in Purr Data had to be rewritten as it uses a different
> programming language. So no GUI object written for Pure Data in tcl/tk
> works in Purr Data. Not only that, but other objects that are seemingly not
> a GUI (that is, they're a regular object box) may use tcl/tk and won't work
> in Purr either.
> - Purr Data ported many (about most) of Pd Extended's objects, but they
> did not port [comment], so it isn't included, and this is why I'm assuming
> you tried this there. There are other objects from cyclone that haven't
> been fully ported either as they use tcl/tk. Moreover, cyclone is outdated
> in Purr Data, so any developments and code from my repository in the last 3
> years are not part of Purr Data. And again, even if it was the case that
> this had been ported and updated in Purr, it uses a different language, so
> it wouldn't be the case.
>
> Other than that, if you're in Vanilla or Extended, I can't think of
> anything in this universe that would explain why you have cyclone with
> [comment] not included but other with objects working...
>
> cheers
>
> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 11:23, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You
>> can test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the
>>> console for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
>>>
>>> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's
>>> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
>>>
>>> here's a test patch
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
 On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
 > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to
 update
 > in cyclone, and I need help.

 so what is the problem?

 fgsmdr
 IOhannes

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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

I can only assume you're trying to load this object in purr data, if so, I
have to say:

- This is not the pd-l2ork/purr data list :)
- All GUI objects in Purr Data had to be rewritten as it uses a different
programming language. So no GUI object written for Pure Data in tcl/tk
works in Purr Data. Not only that, but other objects that are seemingly not
a GUI (that is, they're a regular object box) may use tcl/tk and won't work
in Purr either.
- Purr Data ported many (about most) of Pd Extended's objects, but they did
not port [comment], so it isn't included, and this is why I'm assuming you
tried this there. There are other objects from cyclone that haven't been
fully ported either as they use tcl/tk. Moreover, cyclone is outdated in
Purr Data, so any developments and code from my repository in the last 3
years are not part of Purr Data. And again, even if it was the case that
this had been ported and updated in Purr, it uses a different language, so
it wouldn't be the case.

Other than that, if you're in Vanilla or Extended, I can't think of
anything in this universe that would explain why you have cyclone with
[comment] not included but other with objects working...

cheers

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 11:23, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You
> can test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?
>
> cheers
>
> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten 
> escreveu:
>
>> since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the
>> console for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…
>>
>>
>> On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
>>
>> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's
>> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
>>
>> here's a test patch
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>> > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to
>>> update
>>> > in cyclone, and I need help.
>>>
>>> so what is the problem?
>>>
>>> fgsmdr
>>> IOhannes
>>>
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

what do you mean it is not included? cause it's always been included! You
can test this even with Pd Extended. How did you download and install it?

cheers

Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 05:12, Simon Iten 
escreveu:

> since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the
> console for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres 
> wrote:
>
> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
>
> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's
> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
>
> here's a test patch
>
> cheers
>
>
> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> escreveu:
>
>> On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to
>> update
>> > in cyclone, and I need help.
>>
>> so what is the problem?
>>
>> fgsmdr
>> IOhannes
>>
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Simon Iten]

since the external is not included i get a “…couldn’t create” in the console 
for comment, and not surprisingly it does not display…


> On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:16, Alexandre Torres Porres  wrote:
> 
> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
> 
> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's 
> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
> 
> here's a test patch
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig  > escreveu:
> On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to update
> > in cyclone, and I need help.
> 
> so what is the problem?
> 
> fgsmdr
> IOhannes
> 
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

btw, are there any tutorials on how to write GUI externals for Pd out there?

Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 11:16, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).
>
> Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's
> comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.
>
> here's a test patch
>
> cheers
>
>
> Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> escreveu:
>
>> On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to
>> update
>> > in cyclone, and I need help.
>>
>> so what is the problem?
>>
>> fgsmdr
>> IOhannes
>>
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

The object is not visible in a GOP (graph on parent).

Unlike every other GUI object/external out there (and atom boxes or Pd's
comment), it is not visible in a subpath with a GOP.

here's a test patch

cheers


Em ter, 12 de fev de 2019 às 06:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
escreveu:

> On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to
> update
> > in cyclone, and I need help.
>
> so what is the problem?
>
> fgsmdr
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 12.02.19 06:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to update
> in cyclone, and I need help.

so what is the problem?

fgsmdr
IOhannes



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[PD] help making a GUI object visible in GOP (cyclone/comment)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hi folks, I'm working on cyclone/comment, the last object we need to update
in cyclone, and I need help.

I haven't learned much (if any) when it comes to GUIs in Pd. I've tried all
I could and I'm giving up, but I assume this must be so trivial and simple
for a more experienced GUI coder out there. So I appreciate if anyone could
help me out here.

here's the code
https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/blob/master/cyclone_objects/binaries/control/comment.c

and one can always also just send us a PR in the repository ;)

thanks
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