Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Dan Wilcox]

Probably. We added some math to handle multi-monitor placement which may be 
showing this problem.

Please open a bug report with the patch.

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 7:27 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:21:09 +0200
> From: Csaba Láng mailto:langcs...@gmail.com>>
> To: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1
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> So it looks like the crash is caused by saving the patch on a second
> screen. After that I am unable to reopen the patch, and pd quits
> unexpectedly..
> Changing the first line back as Lucas suggested, opens the patch again on
> the first screen.
> is it a bug?


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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Csaba Láng]

just one last word, if I have the second screen anywhere else than above my
main screen, and there is no negative number in the first line after saving,
the patch opens normally
like this:
#N canvas 2527 187 908 638 10;

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 7:21 PM Csaba Láng  wrote:

> So it looks like the crash is caused by saving the patch on a second
> screen. After that I am unable to reopen the patch, and pd quits
> unexpectedly..
> Changing the first line back as Lucas suggested, opens the patch again on
> the first screen.
> is it a bug?
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:49 PM Csaba Láng  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, that helped.
>> Back to the malfunction part of my mail, which anyway could cause the
>> strange behaving of the canvas size, is the next:
>>
>> if I patch on a second screen and resizing the window, when crossing an
>> object with the edge of the window, then the window jumps into a minimal
>> size, which is only the minimise, maximise and close buttons, and when I
>> release the mouse button, the whole window jumps down to the bottom of the
>> main screen.
>>
>> Let me know if anyone can this reproduce.
>>
>> Popesz
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:03 AM Lucas Cordiviola 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Csaba:
>>>
>>> Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
>>>
>>> I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my
>>> monitor.
>>>
>>> Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
>>>
>>> #N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> #N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
>>>
>>> May be is just that?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
>>>
>>> IOhannes,
>>>
>>> thanks for your reply.
>>> There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes
>>> at opening the patch itself.
>>> I am on 64bit version from binary.
>>>
>>> Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first
>>> time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
>>>
>>> Popesz
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
 > Dear list,
 >
 > already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
 namely,
 > none of the shortcuts work for me.

 all of them work for me.
 i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their
 would have been at least one other complaint.

 > Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash
 again
 > and again.

 again and again?
 how often can you crash Pd?

 but seriously, i doesn't crash for me.
 also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash.
 please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to)
 reproduce your problem.
 something like:
 #1 click here
 #2 click here
 #3 click here to make it crash

 > I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5

 self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere
 else? 64bit or 32bit?

 gfamdsr
 IOhannes

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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Csaba Láng]

So it looks like the crash is caused by saving the patch on a second
screen. After that I am unable to reopen the patch, and pd quits
unexpectedly..
Changing the first line back as Lucas suggested, opens the patch again on
the first screen.
is it a bug?

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:49 PM Csaba Láng  wrote:

> Thanks, that helped.
> Back to the malfunction part of my mail, which anyway could cause the
> strange behaving of the canvas size, is the next:
>
> if I patch on a second screen and resizing the window, when crossing an
> object with the edge of the window, then the window jumps into a minimal
> size, which is only the minimise, maximise and close buttons, and when I
> release the mouse button, the whole window jumps down to the bottom of the
> main screen.
>
> Let me know if anyone can this reproduce.
>
> Popesz
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:03 AM Lucas Cordiviola 
> wrote:
>
>> @Csaba:
>>
>> Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
>>
>> I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my
>> monitor.
>>
>> Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
>>
>> #N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
>>
>> to
>>
>> #N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
>>
>> May be is just that?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
>>
>> IOhannes,
>>
>> thanks for your reply.
>> There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes
>> at opening the patch itself.
>> I am on 64bit version from binary.
>>
>> Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first
>> time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
>>
>> Popesz
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
>>> > Dear list,
>>> >
>>> > already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
>>> namely,
>>> > none of the shortcuts work for me.
>>>
>>> all of them work for me.
>>> i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their
>>> would have been at least one other complaint.
>>>
>>> > Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash
>>> again
>>> > and again.
>>>
>>> again and again?
>>> how often can you crash Pd?
>>>
>>> but seriously, i doesn't crash for me.
>>> also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash.
>>> please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to)
>>> reproduce your problem.
>>> something like:
>>> #1 click here
>>> #2 click here
>>> #3 click here to make it crash
>>>
>>> > I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
>>>
>>> self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere
>>> else? 64bit or 32bit?
>>>
>>> gfamdsr
>>> IOhannes
>>>
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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Csaba Láng]

Thanks, that helped.
Back to the malfunction part of my mail, which anyway could cause the
strange behaving of the canvas size, is the next:

if I patch on a second screen and resizing the window, when crossing an
object with the edge of the window, then the window jumps into a minimal
size, which is only the minimise, maximise and close buttons, and when I
release the mouse button, the whole window jumps down to the bottom of the
main screen.

Let me know if anyone can this reproduce.

Popesz

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:03 AM Lucas Cordiviola 
wrote:

> @Csaba:
>
> Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.
>
> I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my
> monitor.
>
> Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:
>
> #N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;
>
> to
>
> #N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;
>
> May be is just that?
>
> --
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
>
> IOhannes,
>
> thanks for your reply.
> There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes
> at opening the patch itself.
> I am on 64bit version from binary.
>
> Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first
> time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.
>
> Popesz
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig 
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
>> > Dear list,
>> >
>> > already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
>> namely,
>> > none of the shortcuts work for me.
>>
>> all of them work for me.
>> i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their
>> would have been at least one other complaint.
>>
>> > Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again
>> > and again.
>>
>> again and again?
>> how often can you crash Pd?
>>
>> but seriously, i doesn't crash for me.
>> also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash.
>> please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to)
>> reproduce your problem.
>> something like:
>> #1 click here
>> #2 click here
>> #3 click here to make it crash
>>
>> > I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
>>
>> self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere
>> else? 64bit or 32bit?
>>
>> gfamdsr
>> IOhannes
>>
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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Lucas Cordiviola]

@Csaba:

Your test patch does not crash my windows machine.

I have problems visualizing it because is outside of the bounds of my monitor.

Open your patch with a text editor and change the first line:

#N canvas 1306 -1075 590 601 10;

to

#N canvas 1 1 590 601 10;

May be is just that?

--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 7/12/2018 10:32 AM, Csaba Láng wrote:
IOhannes,

thanks for your reply.
There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at 
opening the patch itself.
I am on 64bit version from binary.

Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first time 
today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.

Popesz

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig 
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> wrote:
On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions, namely,
> none of the shortcuts work for me.

all of them work for me.
i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their
would have been at least one other complaint.

> Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again
> and again.

again and again?
how often can you crash Pd?

but seriously, i doesn't crash for me.
also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash.
please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to)
reproduce your problem.
something like:
#1 click here
#2 click here
#3 click here to make it crash

> I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5

self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere
else? 64bit or 32bit?

gfamdsr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 07/12/2018 03:32 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
> IOhannes,
> 
> thanks for your reply.
> There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at
> opening the patch itself.

then you should:
- open a terminal
- start Pd from the console and tell it to print to stderr. something like:

$ /Applications/Pd-0.48-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -verbose -stderr
/path/to/texttest.pd

see whether it gives you something meaningful.
if it doesn't, try hooking up a debugger, like gdb or lldb.

gfdasr
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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Csaba Láng]

IOhannes,

thanks for your reply.
There is no instruction about clicking in the right order, as Pd crashes at
opening the patch itself.
I am on 64bit version from binary.

Regarding the shortcuts, I had already this before on pd-extended, first
time today it happened using 0.48.1. It must be something local then.

Popesz

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:26 PM IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:

> On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions,
> namely,
> > none of the shortcuts work for me.
>
> all of them work for me.
> i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their
> would have been at least one other complaint.
>
> > Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again
> > and again.
>
> again and again?
> how often can you crash Pd?
>
> but seriously, i doesn't crash for me.
> also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash.
> please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to)
> reproduce your problem.
> something like:
> #1 click here
> #2 click here
> #3 click here to make it crash
>
> > I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5
>
> self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere
> else? 64bit or 32bit?
>
> gfamdsr
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 07/12/2018 03:12 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions, namely,
> none of the shortcuts work for me.

all of them work for me.
i also suspect, that they work for most other people, as otherwise their
would have been at least one other complaint.

> Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again
> and again.

again and again?
how often can you crash Pd?

but seriously, i doesn't crash for me.
also, i have no clue how you interact with the patch to make it crash.
please add a step-by-step guide to your patch, so people can (try to)
reproduce your problem.
something like:
#1 click here
#2 click here
#3 click here to make it crash

> I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5

self compiled, or the binaries from miller's website, or from somewhere
else? 64bit or 32bit?

gfamdsr
IOhannes



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[PD] malfunction of pd-0.48.1

[Csaba Láng]

Dear list,

already for a while I have realised that pd has some malfunctions, namely,
none of the shortcuts work for me.
To put in any object, message or number etc elements is possible only from
the menu line.
Furthermore, a simple patch (see in the attachment) makes pd crash again
and again.
What else I have realised, if I have all patch windows on a second screen,
resizing the window made my window disappear totally, or appeared down of
the screen.

I am on Mac OS X 10.13.5

Best,

Popesz


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