Re: [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released

2017-11-04 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-11-04 11:25 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> So I had a [togedge~] and [trigger~] object but was designing a third one
> named [past~], which ended up encompassing functionalities found in both of
> these other two objects, and I also hated the names of the former two
> objects
>

the thing about names, [trigger~] was actually a threshold detector, but I
couldn't use [threshold~] cause Pd uses it. I could also go for an
abbreviation, such [thresh~], but cyclone has one object named like that.
Since I don't want name conflicts with cyclone (cause I maintain it too).
Not only that, but as far as name precautions goes, I'm not taking any name
that belongs to any external from good old Pd Extended, that makes it hard.

So, [togedge~] was also a name that related to [togedge] from Max, but it
was a bad name and a bad relationship (cause max also has [edge~]). So
yeah, I couldn't use [edge~] either... Anyway the only solution I found
after struggling a lot was to have an object with a name that I also hate
called past~, that sends an impulse when you go past over a threshold and
another when it falls below it.

cheers
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released

2017-11-04 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yeah, that was intentionally removed, but the help file wasn't updated. Now
it has though.

If you want to create an impulse from a bang, use now [impseq~]

Generating impulses from bangs is something you can find in other
externals, like [ciclone/click~], so I didn't want to make one object just
for that and have it as one of the features of a more complex object. In
this case, it's an "impulse sequencer".

Now, as for trigger~, sorry, but it's going away in the next release. I'm
still in this experimental phase, designing many objects, and sometimes I
find redundancy. So I had a [togedge~] and [trigger~] object but was
designing a third one named [past~], which ended up encompassing
functionalities found in both of these other two objects, and I also hated
the names of the former two objects, so they're both being deprecated and
deleted.

This is mostly why I'm keeping the project at a beta stage, cause I'm still
not sure about the design of these tools, they're all pretty new. Once I'm
sure I have it right (even though I might regret it in the future) I'll
call it a final version and make the commitment that whatever I have there
will be there forever.

so take precaution (I'm actually warning this pretty clearly in every
release)

cheers

2017-11-04 3:55 GMT-02:00 school shoes :

> thanks for this it's a great library.
> I've noticed what I think is a bug in the latest release. It says in the
> help file for trigger~ that a bang will send an impulse but I get :
> trigger~:no method for 'bang' ". However sending a bang seems to work as
> expected in older releases of else. Tried on macos10.12 and ubuntu studio
> 16.04 . cheers
>
> --
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> *Sent:* Monday, 30 October 2017 8:39:23 AM
> *To:* pd-annou...@lists.iem.at
> *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released
>
> I did 4 updates this month because of a course I'm teaching, which ends
> now, so I'm gonna drop this for a while, sorry for polluting with so many
> updates. Anyway, it's up on deken already, and here are some details:
> https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases
>
> cheers
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released

2017-11-03 Thread school shoes
thanks for this it's a great library.

I've noticed what I think is a bug in the latest release. It says in the help 
file for trigger~ that a bang will send an impulse but I get : trigger~:no 
method for 'bang' ". However sending a bang seems to work as expected in older 
releases of else. Tried on macos10.12 and ubuntu studio 16.04 . cheers



From: Pd-list  on behalf of Alexandre Torres 
Porres 
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 8:39:23 AM
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Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released

I did 4 updates this month because of a course I'm teaching, which ends now, so 
I'm gonna drop this for a while, sorry for polluting with so many updates. 
Anyway, it's up on deken already, and here are some details: 
https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released

2017-10-30 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
him thanks, you mean my conputer music tutorial in portuguse? that's also
very outdated. I have plans next year to update it and use the new cyclone
and also this new library. If both libs make it in Purr Data I can upgrade
the tutorial and also translate it to english, but will try to make a book
out of it.

cheers

2017-10-30 6:52 GMT-02:00 Julian Brooks :

> Hi Alex,
>
> This is a broad, solid and highly useful set of tools - 'thanks for
> sharing' as they say:).
>
> Be a bugger of a job but an English translation of the tutorials would be
> a wonderful resource, particularly as so many pd tuts are now outdated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Julian
>
> On 29 October 2017 at 21:39, Alexandre Torres Porres 
> wrote:
>
>> I did 4 updates this month because of a course I'm teaching, which ends
>> now, so I'm gonna drop this for a while, sorry for polluting with so many
>> updates. Anyway, it's up on deken already, and here are some details:
>> https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases
>>
>> cheers
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] else 1.0 beta 5 released

2017-10-30 Thread Julian Brooks
Hi Alex,

This is a broad, solid and highly useful set of tools - 'thanks for
sharing' as they say:).

Be a bugger of a job but an English translation of the tutorials would be a
wonderful resource, particularly as so many pd tuts are now outdated.

Regards,

Julian

On 29 October 2017 at 21:39, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> I did 4 updates this month because of a course I'm teaching, which ends
> now, so I'm gonna drop this for a while, sorry for polluting with so many
> updates. Anyway, it's up on deken already, and here are some details:
> https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases
>
> cheers
>
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