Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Jonghyun Kim]

great! thanks lucas!

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> *>**Which software do you use in the screenshot?*
>
>
> Hi Jonghyun,
>
> We don't have the screenshot but most likely he was using:
>
> http://www.dependencywalker.com/
>
>
>
> Salutti,
> Lucarda.
>
>
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Pd-list <pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at> on behalf of Jonghyun Kim <
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:17 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)
>
> Thanks Rolf for the clue. Which software do you use in the screenshot? is
> it like DLL checker?
>
> Jonghyun
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:09 AM, <ro...@dds.nl> wrote:
>
>> Roman wrote:
>>
>> Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
>>> approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
>>> means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
>>> be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
>>> DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
>>> missing or not found.
>>>
>>
>> thanks Roman.
>> running DependencyWalker gives a lot of yellow warnings and a red one in
>> the dep.tree.
>>
>> and in the log window:
>>
>> Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not
>> found.
>> Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing
>> export function in an implicitly dependent module.
>> Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
>> Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing
>> export function in a delay-load dependent module.
>>
>> attached are 2 png's which show 2 items i think could be causing the
>> problem:
>> -msvcrt.dll which appears to generate one or both of the above mentioned
>> errors.
>> -msvcr71.dll; in pd/bin exists msvcr90.dll.
>>
>> any hints how to proceed?
>>
>> rolf
>>
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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

>Which software do you use in the screenshot?

Hi Jonghyun,

We don't have the screenshot but most likely he was using:

http://www.dependencywalker.com/



Salutti,
Lucarda.




Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.



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Subject: Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

Thanks Rolf for the clue. Which software do you use in the screenshot? is it 
like DLL checker?

Jonghyun

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:09 AM, <ro...@dds.nl<mailto:ro...@dds.nl>> wrote:
Roman wrote:

Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
missing or not found.

thanks Roman.
running DependencyWalker gives a lot of yellow warnings and a red one in the 
dep.tree.

and in the log window:

Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found.
Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export 
function in an implicitly dependent module.
Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export 
function in a delay-load dependent module.

attached are 2 png's which show 2 items i think could be causing the problem:
-msvcrt.dll which appears to generate one or both of the above mentioned errors.
-msvcr71.dll; in pd/bin exists msvcr90.dll.

any hints how to proceed?

rolf


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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Jonghyun Kim]

Thanks Rolf for the clue. Which software do you use in the screenshot? is
it like DLL checker?

Jonghyun

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:09 AM,  wrote:

> Roman wrote:
>
> Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
>> approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
>> means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
>> be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
>> DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
>> missing or not found.
>>
>
> thanks Roman.
> running DependencyWalker gives a lot of yellow warnings and a red one in
> the dep.tree.
>
> and in the log window:
>
> Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not
> found.
> Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing
> export function in an implicitly dependent module.
> Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
> Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing
> export function in a delay-load dependent module.
>
> attached are 2 png's which show 2 items i think could be causing the
> problem:
> -msvcrt.dll which appears to generate one or both of the above mentioned
> errors.
> -msvcr71.dll; in pd/bin exists msvcr90.dll.
>
> any hints how to proceed?
>
> rolf
>
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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Jonghyun Kim]

Hi rolf,


> great Dan, MSVCR71.dll was present in my system, but apparently not at the
> 'right' place for Pd/Gem.
> copying the file to a 'better' location did the trick.
>

Where is the actual BETTER LOCATION? C:\Windows\System or System32?

Thanks,
Jonghyun Kim
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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Jonghyun Kim]

Copy *msvcr71.dll* to *C:\Windows\System *Folder?

Is it right? I looks work, but not confirmed...

I'm on Windows 10 / Pd-0.47-1


On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:51 PM,  wrote:

> Dan Wilcox schreef op 02-06-2016 22:50:
>
>> When the app needs a different version of the built in windows libs,
>> that usually means it was build on a different version of Windows.
>>
>> Sometimes, you have to include a copy of the lib itself with the app
>> and/or the user needs to install it. Hacky I know, but that’s what
>> I’ve done in the past…
>>
>> IE:
>> https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-U
>> S/7f5a39ee-e089-4330-a67c-e8e24090939c/msvcp71dll-missing?
>> forum=windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues
>>
>> Often times, I’ve quickly had to go to one of these sites that hosts
>> various Windows api dlls just to get something to work. Either that or
>> copy it from another machine with an older OS. Seems like this might
>> be an option for now.
>>
>>
> great Dan, MSVCR71.dll was present in my system, but apparently not at the
> 'right' place for Pd/Gem.
> copying the file to a 'better' location did the trick.
>
> thanks everybody who contributed in my groping around to get Gem working.
>
>
> rolf
>
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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Roman Haefeli]

On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 10:51 +0200, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
> Dan Wilcox schreef op 02-06-2016 22:50:
> > When the app needs a different version of the built in windows libs,
> > that usually means it was build on a different version of Windows.
> > 
> > Sometimes, you have to include a copy of the lib itself with the app
> > and/or the user needs to install it. Hacky I know, but that’s what
> > I’ve done in the past…
> > 
> > IE:
> > https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-US/7f5a39ee-e089-4330-a67c-e8e24090939c/msvcp71dll-missing?forum=windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues
> > 
> > Often times, I’ve quickly had to go to one of these sites that hosts
> > various Windows api dlls just to get something to work. Either that or
> > copy it from another machine with an older OS. Seems like this might
> > be an option for now.
> > 
> 
> great Dan, MSVCR71.dll was present in my system, but apparently not at 
> the 'right' place for Pd/Gem.
> copying the file to a 'better' location did the trick.
> 
> thanks everybody who contributed in my groping around to get Gem 
> working.
> 

Great to hear about your success. 

Would be good though, if other Gem users on Windows 10 wouldn't have go
through those hoops in the future. Maybe you report that on the Gem-dev
mailing list, hoping that there is solution that will automatically
detect the dll at its original location.

Roman



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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[rolfm]

Dan Wilcox schreef op 02-06-2016 22:50:

When the app needs a different version of the built in windows libs,
that usually means it was build on a different version of Windows.

Sometimes, you have to include a copy of the lib itself with the app
and/or the user needs to install it. Hacky I know, but that’s what
I’ve done in the past…

IE:
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-US/7f5a39ee-e089-4330-a67c-e8e24090939c/msvcp71dll-missing?forum=windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues

Often times, I’ve quickly had to go to one of these sites that hosts
various Windows api dlls just to get something to work. Either that or
copy it from another machine with an older OS. Seems like this might
be an option for now.



great Dan, MSVCR71.dll was present in my system, but apparently not at 
the 'right' place for Pd/Gem.

copying the file to a 'better' location did the trick.

thanks everybody who contributed in my groping around to get Gem 
working.


rolf

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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Dan Wilcox]

When the app needs a different version of the built in windows libs, that 
usually means it was build on a different version of Windows.

Sometimes, you have to include a copy of the lib itself with the app and/or the 
user needs to install it. Hacky I know, but that’s what I’ve done in the past…

IE: 
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-US/7f5a39ee-e089-4330-a67c-e8e24090939c/msvcp71dll-missing?forum=windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues
 
<https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-US/7f5a39ee-e089-4330-a67c-e8e24090939c/msvcp71dll-missing?forum=windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues>

Often times, I’ve quickly had to go to one of these sites that hosts various 
Windows api dlls just to get something to work. Either that or copy it from 
another machine with an older OS. Seems like this might be an option for now.


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:09 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: ro...@dds.nl <mailto:ro...@dds.nl>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)
> Date: June 2, 2016 at 2:09:31 PM MDT
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
> 
> 
> Roman wrote:
> 
>> Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
>> approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
>> means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
>> be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
>> DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
>> missing or not found.
> 
> thanks Roman.
> running DependencyWalker gives a lot of yellow warnings and a red one in the 
> dep.tree.
> 
> and in the log window:
> 
> Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found.
> Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export 
> function in an implicitly dependent module.
> Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
> Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export 
> function in a delay-load dependent module.
> 
> attached are 2 png's which show 2 items i think could be causing the problem:
> -msvcrt.dll which appears to generate one or both of the above mentioned 
> errors.
> -msvcr71.dll; in pd/bin exists msvcr90.dll.
> 
> any hints how to proceed?

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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Roman Haefeli]

On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 13:48 +0200, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.m_i386 and failed
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.dll and failed
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.m_i386 and failed
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.dll and succeeded
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.pd and failed
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.pat and failed
> tried C:/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd and failed
> Gem: can't load library
> 
> above the relevant part of the verbose output.
> 
> Gem.dll is found
> but apperently not accepted
> 
> how come?

Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
missing or not found.

Roman



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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[rolfm]

tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.dll and failed
tried C:/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.dll and succeeded
tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.pd and failed
tried C:/pd/extra/Gem.pat and failed
tried C:/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd and failed
Gem: can't load library

above the relevant part of the verbose output.

Gem.dll is found
but apperently not accepted

how come?

rolf

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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Py Fave]

i always install pd near the root of the drive.

i had problems with spaces in path.

so my path is c:/pd/







2016-05-31 21:28 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig :

> On 05/31/2016 07:32 PM, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
> >
> > downloaded Gem installer (is not in deken)
>
> and will never be, as deken does not know how to handle installers
> (executables).
>
>
> apart from that: iirc the Gem zip archive and the gem installer really
> use the very same binaries. the big differences are:
> - the installer knows (approx) where to put the files
> - the installer lets you choose which components you (do not) want to
> install
>
> >
> > in Prefernces added new lib: Gem
> >
> > startup Pd:
> > Gem can't load library
>
> please start pd.com from the cmdline and use the "-verbose" flag to see
> whether you can get any more information *why* it fails.
> you might have to to raise the verbosity in the Pd-console as well, to
> see any hidden messages.
>
> gfrdsa
> IOhannes
>
>
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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 05/31/2016 07:32 PM, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
> 
> downloaded Gem installer (is not in deken)

and will never be, as deken does not know how to handle installers
(executables).


apart from that: iirc the Gem zip archive and the gem installer really
use the very same binaries. the big differences are:
- the installer knows (approx) where to put the files
- the installer lets you choose which components you (do not) want to
install

> 
> in Prefernces added new lib: Gem
> 
> startup Pd:
> Gem can't load library

please start pd.com from the cmdline and use the "-verbose" flag to see
whether you can get any more information *why* it fails.
you might have to to raise the verbosity in the Pd-console as well, to
see any hidden messages.

gfrdsa
IOhannes




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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[rolfm]

@pyfave

windows 10

Pd 47.0 is in Program Files(x86)

downloaded Gem installer (is not in deken)

Gem installer puts Gem in pd/extra

in Prefernces added new lib: Gem

startup Pd:
Gem can't load library

[declare -stdpath Gem -stdlib Gem] doesn't work either.

can you tell me how is your setup in which it works?

thanks,
rolf

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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Py Fave]

gem 93.3 loads here when installed via exe installer.



2016-05-30 0:18 GMT+02:00 :

> hi,
>
> just shortly i started this thread about Gem on Windows 10
>
> [PD] how to get GEM working in Vanilla?
> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-05/114954.html
>
> no solution, yet.
> the library is not loaded;
> neither with Gem from deken nor from iem.
>
> it looks like there are very few people working with Gem and Windows 10
> (and reading this list).
>
> rolf
>
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