Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
Happy Holiday! https://github.com/gogo2/pd-ndi Popesz On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:12 PM IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 12/21/18 3:51 PM, Csaba Láng wrote: > > Good day! > > > > I just wanted to inform you that we have created an ndisender obiect for > > Gem, right now testing on Windows and Mac, soon on Linux. > > If ready, will send you the github link! No sound yet, but if needed we > can > > add on request. > > > > very cool. looking forward to it. > > in any case: please implement this as a "record" plugin (rather than a > separate [pix_ndisend] (or whatever) object). > > > mfgadsr > IOhannes > > PS: and don't hesitate to publish the sources, even if it is not yet > "ready". (chances are that it will never be ready, for some levels of > readiness) > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
On 12/21/18 3:51 PM, Csaba Láng wrote: > Good day! > > I just wanted to inform you that we have created an ndisender obiect for > Gem, right now testing on Windows and Mac, soon on Linux. > If ready, will send you the github link! No sound yet, but if needed we can > add on request. > very cool. looking forward to it. in any case: please implement this as a "record" plugin (rather than a separate [pix_ndisend] (or whatever) object). mfgadsr IOhannes PS: and don't hesitate to publish the sources, even if it is not yet "ready". (chances are that it will never be ready, for some levels of readiness) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
Good day! I just wanted to inform you that we have created an ndisender obiect for Gem, right now testing on Windows and Mac, soon on Linux. If ready, will send you the github link! No sound yet, but if needed we can add on request. Best, Popesz On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:07 PM Jack wrote: > Le 13/11/2018 à 18:58, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > > On 11/13/18 6:36 PM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > >> I'd so much love a faster/better way for video-accross-network-from-PD > >> (from linux) then pdp_netsend and friends :D > > > > i've always been using v4l2loopback and gstreamer for such kind of > things. > > A question about this : > v4l2loopback works with gstreamer 1.0 ? > ++ > > Jack > > > > > > gfmdsar > > IOhannes > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
Le 13/11/2018 à 18:58, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > On 11/13/18 6:36 PM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: >> I'd so much love a faster/better way for video-accross-network-from-PD >> (from linux) then pdp_netsend and friends :D > > i've always been using v4l2loopback and gstreamer for such kind of things. A question about this : v4l2loopback works with gstreamer 1.0 ? ++ Jack > > gfmdsar > IOhannes > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
On 11/13/18 6:36 PM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > I'd so much love a faster/better way for video-accross-network-from-PD > (from linux) then pdp_netsend and friends :D i've always been using v4l2loopback and gstreamer for such kind of things. gfmdsar IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
On 11/13/18 6:28 PM, Antoine Villeret wrote: > maybe it's time to dig up the idea of a texture in/out plugin framework in > Gem > I would like to know Iohannes point of view on this : should we use actual > framework (record and video plugin) or should we develop a new one for > texture in/out which can be later extended with syphon and spout (there > should be already a syphon external somewhere iirc) the latter, as texture sharing is much more performant than pixel-sharing. gfmasrd IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
I'd so much love a faster/better way for video-accross-network-from-PD (from linux) then pdp_netsend and friends :D ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
maybe it's time to dig up the idea of a texture in/out plugin framework in Gem I would like to know Iohannes point of view on this : should we use actual framework (record and video plugin) or should we develop a new one for texture in/out which can be later extended with syphon and spout (there should be already a syphon external somewhere iirc) Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 12:44, baptiste chatel a écrit : > Antoine : my mistake, i typed too fast. I can't run it on windows 10 64 > bit, for some reason. > > Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:39, Antoine Rousseau a > écrit : > >> >> @baptiste note that spout seems to be Windows only (the github title is >> even "A video frame sharing system for Microsoft Windows"). >> >> >> Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:12, baptiste chatel >> a écrit : >> >>> A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) >>> http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. >>> There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't >>> work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver >>> would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. >>> >>> Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : >>> >>> >>> Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more >>> efficient. >>> >>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser < >>> joson.andr...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng geschrieben: > Dear Gem Lovers, > > recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. > The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send > the video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no > adapters needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through > LAN. > > What do you think? Could be useful. > > Best, > > Popesz > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
Antoine : my mistake, i typed too fast. I can't run it on windows 10 64 bit, for some reason. Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:39, Antoine Rousseau a écrit : > > @baptiste note that spout seems to be Windows only (the github title is > even "A video frame sharing system for Microsoft Windows"). > > > Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:12, baptiste chatel > a écrit : > >> A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) >> http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. >> There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't >> work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver >> would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. >> >> Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : >> >> >> Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more >> efficient. >> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser >> wrote: >> >>> That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a >>> syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). >>> >>> Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng >>> geschrieben: >>> Dear Gem Lovers, recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send the video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no adapters needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through LAN. What do you think? Could be useful. Best, Popesz >>> ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
Spout/Syphon and NDI are not the same, the formers are meant to share GPU texture across applications (on the same computer) while the later aims at sending video frame over the network. Concerning an external to do so, I think there should be 2 : a recordNDI plugin for sink and a videoNDI plugin for source. I might be interested in making some externals like that. Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:56, Csaba Láng a écrit : > > But that’s the point, we do not need any spout or tcp/IP or Syphon in > between. Just let the signal go directly on ndi for all systems. > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 11:48, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > >> >> @baptiste note that spout seems to be Windows only (the github title is >> even "A video frame sharing system for Microsoft Windows"). >> >> >> Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:12, baptiste chatel >> a écrit : >> >>> A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) >>> http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. >>> There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't >>> work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver >>> would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. >>> >>> Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : >>> >>> >>> Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more >>> efficient. >>> >>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser < >>> joson.andr...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng geschrieben: > Dear Gem Lovers, > > recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. > The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send > the video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no > adapters needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through > LAN. > > What do you think? Could be useful. > > Best, > > Popesz > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
Antoine, You are partly right, they just pointed out that there is a work around to achieve already the ndi outpost through Syphon to ndi on Mac or spout to ndi on windows. The aim is a native ndi output through network. But true, the server client relationships is a good idea. Best, Popesz On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 12:28, Antoine Villeret wrote: > Spout/Syphon and NDI are not the same, the formers are meant to share GPU > texture across applications (on the same computer) while the later aims at > sending video frame over the network. > > Concerning an external to do so, I think there should be 2 : a recordNDI > plugin for sink and a videoNDI plugin for source. > > > I might be interested in making some externals like that. > > > Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:56, Csaba Láng a écrit : > >> >> But that’s the point, we do not need any spout or tcp/IP or Syphon in >> between. Just let the signal go directly on ndi for all systems. >> >> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 11:48, Antoine Rousseau >> wrote: >> >>> >>> @baptiste note that spout seems to be Windows only (the github title is >>> even "A video frame sharing system for Microsoft Windows"). >>> >>> >>> Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:12, baptiste chatel >>> a écrit : >>> A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more efficient. On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser < joson.andr...@googlemail.com> wrote: > That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be > a syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). > > Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng > geschrieben: > >> Dear Gem Lovers, >> >> recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. >> The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send >> the video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no >> adapters needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through >> LAN. >> >> What do you think? Could be useful. >> >> Best, >> >> Popesz >> > ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
But that’s the point, we do not need any spout or tcp/IP or Syphon in between. Just let the signal go directly on ndi for all systems. On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 11:48, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > > @baptiste note that spout seems to be Windows only (the github title is > even "A video frame sharing system for Microsoft Windows"). > > > Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:12, baptiste chatel > a écrit : > >> A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) >> http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. >> There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't >> work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver >> would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. >> >> Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : >> >> >> Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more >> efficient. >> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser >> wrote: >> >>> That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a >>> syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). >>> >>> Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng >>> geschrieben: >>> Dear Gem Lovers, recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send the video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no adapters needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through LAN. What do you think? Could be useful. Best, Popesz >>> ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
@baptiste note that spout seems to be Windows only (the github title is even "A video frame sharing system for Microsoft Windows"). Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 11:12, baptiste chatel a écrit : > A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) > http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. > There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't > work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver > would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. > > Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : > > > Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more > efficient. > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser > wrote: > >> That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a >> syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). >> >> Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng >> geschrieben: >> >>> Dear Gem Lovers, >>> >>> recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. >>> The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send the >>> video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no adapters >>> needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through LAN. >>> >>> What do you think? Could be useful. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Popesz >>> >> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
A lot of live video softwares also use Spout (processing, Isadora, etc.) http://spout.zeal.co/ , which looks like an NDI / syphon alternative. There is an external available on the French codelab forum, but I doesn't work for 64 bit pd for me (running with Ubuntu). A pd spout sender/receiver would actually be a godsend to me in my current work. Le 13 nov. 2018 00:23, "Csaba Láng" a écrit : Yes I know it, but truely GPU consumer. A direct way could be more efficient. On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 21:23, Johnny Mauser wrote: > That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a > syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). > > Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng > geschrieben: > >> Dear Gem Lovers, >> >> recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. >> The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send the >> video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no adapters >> needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through LAN. >> >> What do you think? Could be useful. >> >> Best, >> >> Popesz >> > ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NDI for Gem
That would definitely be useful!! Workaround on OSX could allready be a syhon NDI connection (didnt test, just quick research...). Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat Csaba Láng geschrieben: > Dear Gem Lovers, > > recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. > The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send the > video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no adapters > needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through LAN. > > What do you think? Could be useful. > > Best, > > Popesz > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
