Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)

2019-03-08 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
You got me. When I saw "You will be," I was expecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOb3DlB7WA
Which applies to VST3 regarding both "confused" and "afraid".
Soap was one of the best shows ever made.

I'm trying to work through Steinberg's licensing explanations. It looks
like all they have control over is distributing code from the SDK or
binaries compiled with it. That would make it seem like it's not my problem.
I'm even thinking of using libpd to access this external. I'm not touching
Steinberg's SDK, only linking to an existing binary made by someone else.
Anyone know more about this aspect?


On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 3:44 PM Julian Brooks  wrote:

> 'Confused, you will be...'
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BHQT3Omqtw
>
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:14, Chuckk Hubbard 
> wrote:
>
>> Point taken. This is equally true of Python, though, and it is likewise
>> not clear to me whether a Python program written by me, linking to a binary
>> library built with VST SDK 2.4 (distributed by a VST2-licensed developer),
>> would be subject to their decrees. I mean, you are allowed to continue to
>> publish programs made with 2.4, but the vstplugin~ extern is not a program.
>> And Pd the program does not use the VST standard, only the program I would
>> write with it.
>> Confusing.
>> Chuckk
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 1:57 PM IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>>> > Pd itself,
>>> > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language,
>>> won't
>>>
>>> according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific
>>> Railway.
>>>
>>> what is Pd "itself"?
>>> wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but
>>> you cannot *run* any code in a programming language.
>>> for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is
>>> provided by the eponymous *program*.
>>>
>>>
>>> gsmddt
>>> IOhannes
>>>
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Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)

2019-03-08 Thread Julian Brooks
'Confused, you will be...'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BHQT3Omqtw

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:14, Chuckk Hubbard 
wrote:

> Point taken. This is equally true of Python, though, and it is likewise
> not clear to me whether a Python program written by me, linking to a binary
> library built with VST SDK 2.4 (distributed by a VST2-licensed developer),
> would be subject to their decrees. I mean, you are allowed to continue to
> publish programs made with 2.4, but the vstplugin~ extern is not a program.
> And Pd the program does not use the VST standard, only the program I would
> write with it.
> Confusing.
> Chuckk
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 1:57 PM IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:
>
>> On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>> > Pd itself,
>> > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language,
>> won't
>>
>> according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific
>> Railway.
>>
>> what is Pd "itself"?
>> wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but
>> you cannot *run* any code in a programming language.
>> for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is
>> provided by the eponymous *program*.
>>
>>
>> gsmddt
>> IOhannes
>>
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Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)

2019-03-08 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Point taken. This is equally true of Python, though, and it is likewise not
clear to me whether a Python program written by me, linking to a binary
library built with VST SDK 2.4 (distributed by a VST2-licensed developer),
would be subject to their decrees. I mean, you are allowed to continue to
publish programs made with 2.4, but the vstplugin~ extern is not a program.
And Pd the program does not use the VST standard, only the program I would
write with it.
Confusing.
Chuckk



On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 1:57 PM IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:

> On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> > Pd itself,
> > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language,
> won't
>
> according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific
> Railway.
>
> what is Pd "itself"?
> wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but
> you cannot *run* any code in a programming language.
> for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is
> provided by the eponymous *program*.
>
>
> gsmddt
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)

2019-03-08 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> Pd itself,
> according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language, won't

according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific
Railway.

what is Pd "itself"?
wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but
you cannot *run* any code in a programming language.
for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is
provided by the eponymous *program*.


gsmddt
IOhannes



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