Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)
You got me. When I saw "You will be," I was expecting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOb3DlB7WA Which applies to VST3 regarding both "confused" and "afraid". Soap was one of the best shows ever made. I'm trying to work through Steinberg's licensing explanations. It looks like all they have control over is distributing code from the SDK or binaries compiled with it. That would make it seem like it's not my problem. I'm even thinking of using libpd to access this external. I'm not touching Steinberg's SDK, only linking to an existing binary made by someone else. Anyone know more about this aspect? On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 3:44 PM Julian Brooks wrote: > 'Confused, you will be...' > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BHQT3Omqtw > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:14, Chuckk Hubbard > wrote: > >> Point taken. This is equally true of Python, though, and it is likewise >> not clear to me whether a Python program written by me, linking to a binary >> library built with VST SDK 2.4 (distributed by a VST2-licensed developer), >> would be subject to their decrees. I mean, you are allowed to continue to >> publish programs made with 2.4, but the vstplugin~ extern is not a program. >> And Pd the program does not use the VST standard, only the program I would >> write with it. >> Confusing. >> Chuckk >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 1:57 PM IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >> >>> On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: >>> > Pd itself, >>> > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language, >>> won't >>> >>> according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific >>> Railway. >>> >>> what is Pd "itself"? >>> wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but >>> you cannot *run* any code in a programming language. >>> for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is >>> provided by the eponymous *program*. >>> >>> >>> gsmddt >>> IOhannes >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)
'Confused, you will be...' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BHQT3Omqtw On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:14, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Point taken. This is equally true of Python, though, and it is likewise > not clear to me whether a Python program written by me, linking to a binary > library built with VST SDK 2.4 (distributed by a VST2-licensed developer), > would be subject to their decrees. I mean, you are allowed to continue to > publish programs made with 2.4, but the vstplugin~ extern is not a program. > And Pd the program does not use the VST standard, only the program I would > write with it. > Confusing. > Chuckk > > > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 1:57 PM IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >> On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: >> > Pd itself, >> > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language, >> won't >> >> according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific >> Railway. >> >> what is Pd "itself"? >> wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but >> you cannot *run* any code in a programming language. >> for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is >> provided by the eponymous *program*. >> >> >> gsmddt >> IOhannes >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)
Point taken. This is equally true of Python, though, and it is likewise not clear to me whether a Python program written by me, linking to a binary library built with VST SDK 2.4 (distributed by a VST2-licensed developer), would be subject to their decrees. I mean, you are allowed to continue to publish programs made with 2.4, but the vstplugin~ extern is not a program. And Pd the program does not use the VST standard, only the program I would write with it. Confusing. Chuckk On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 1:57 PM IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > Pd itself, > > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language, > won't > > according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific > Railway. > > what is Pd "itself"? > wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but > you cannot *run* any code in a programming language. > for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is > provided by the eponymous *program*. > > > gsmddt > IOhannes > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)
On 3/8/19 7:04 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Pd itself, > according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language, won't according to LinkedIn Chuck Hubbard is director at the Canadian Pacific Railway. what is Pd "itself"? wikipedia says it's a programming language, which is fair enough. but you cannot *run* any code in a programming language. for running code, you need an interpreter ("a runtime"), which is provided by the eponymous *program*. gsmddt IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list