Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> the problem might be that you are now running
> PdX in a different environment (e.g. yosemite)
> that simply lacks an X11 installation.

nope, I had yosemite for months now and always had X11, it was just
installing 0.43 that kinda messed it all up

cheers

2015-03-08 17:10 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig :

> On 03/08/2015 07:32 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > things. I believe that didn't happen for 0.42, but now that I'm back to
> 42
> > it's complaining it cant find these libraries anymore. I thought that
> > nuking everything and fresh re-installing 42 would make this error go
> away,
> > but it remains, here it is below in all its fullness.
> >
> >
> */Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin:
> >
> dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin,
> > 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib*
>
>
> wild guess: could it be that you are confusing "updating PdX-0.42 to
> PdX-0.43" with "upgrading OSX to yosemite and updating PdX-0.42 to
> PdX-0.43"?
>
> iirc, PdX (at least versions befor the French revolution) always tried
> to load dozens of externals, including pdp.
> now pdp *always* requires X11 to be installed (e.g. as
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib).
>
> now if suddenly pdp cannot be loaded anymore because it is missing
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib, then the problem might be that you are
> now running PdX in a different environment (e.g. yosemite) that simply
> lacks an X11 installation.
>
> gfmadsr
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Seiichiro MATSUMURA
Hi Alexandre,

I always use this for removing softwares. Is this enough?

AppCleaner
http://www.freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/

Sei

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2015-03-09 0:42 GMT+09:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> How to nuke it and make it as if Pd (vanilla or extended) had never ever
> existed and the system never saw it before?
>
> I had ways to do this before, but things seemed to have changed
>
> cheers
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Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 03/08/2015 07:32 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> things. I believe that didn't happen for 0.42, but now that I'm back to 42
> it's complaining it cant find these libraries anymore. I thought that
> nuking everything and fresh re-installing 42 would make this error go away,
> but it remains, here it is below in all its fullness.
> 
> */Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin:
> dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin,
> 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib*


wild guess: could it be that you are confusing "updating PdX-0.42 to
PdX-0.43" with "upgrading OSX to yosemite and updating PdX-0.42 to
PdX-0.43"?

iirc, PdX (at least versions befor the French revolution) always tried
to load dozens of externals, including pdp.
now pdp *always* requires X11 to be installed (e.g. as
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib).

now if suddenly pdp cannot be loaded anymore because it is missing
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib, then the problem might be that you are
now running PdX in a different environment (e.g. yosemite) that simply
lacks an X11 installation.

gfmadsr
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Miller Puckette
This is likely the 'defaults' system.  If 'defaults delete org.puredata'
didn't fix it, try reading out all defaults into a file (see the man page)
and search for 'pidip'.

cheers
M

On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 03:32:02PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> hmm, tried everything... the thing is that I was using extended 42, then
> tried 43 to check a few things and wanted to go back... and then when I
> installed 43 it complained about not finding/loading pdip/pddp and a few
> things. I believe that didn't happen for 0.42, but now that I'm back to 42
> it's complaining it cant find these libraries anymore. I thought that
> nuking everything and fresh re-installing 42 would make this error go away,
> but it remains, here it is below in all its fullness.
> 
> */Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin:
> dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin,
> 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib*
> *  Referenced from:
> /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin*
> *  Reason: image not found*
> *pdp: can't load library*
> */Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_darwin:
> dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_darwin,
> 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib*
> *  Referenced from:
> /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_darwin*
> *  Reason: image not found*
> *pidip: can't load library*
> 
> I might be wrong, but I don't believe this did appear before, and now it's
> here forever. Thoughts?
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2015-03-08 15:09 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :
> 
> > (Assuming we're on a Mac:)  There's at least one more thing, which is to
> > erase Pd's default settings.  The command,
> >
> > defaults delete org.puredata
> >
> > should do this for Pd vanilla, and perhaps will do it for extended as well
> > (but I'm not sure about that.)
> >
> > Also, the mac caches all sorts of per-application info, bog knows where -
> > for instence, the Pd icons will probably stay there forever so that
> > anything
> > named "*.pd" will get the icon, even after Pd has been removed.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 12:36:18PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
> > > rm -r /Applications/Pd-extended.app
> > >
> > > rm -r /Applications/Pd-0.46-5.app
> > >
> > > rm -r ~/Library/Pd/
> > >
> > > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist
> > >
> > > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.wish.plist
> > >
> > > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pdextended.pd-gui.plist
> > >
> > > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.plist
> > >
> > >
> > > ??
> > >
> > > that might be it i think... but i dont think it changed in 10.10 afaik
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> > por...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > How to nuke it and make it as if Pd (vanilla or extended) had never
> > ever
> > > > existed and the system never saw it before?
> > > >
> > > > I had ways to do this before, but things seemed to have changed
> > > >
> > > > cheers
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Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hmm, tried everything... the thing is that I was using extended 42, then
tried 43 to check a few things and wanted to go back... and then when I
installed 43 it complained about not finding/loading pdip/pddp and a few
things. I believe that didn't happen for 0.42, but now that I'm back to 42
it's complaining it cant find these libraries anymore. I thought that
nuking everything and fresh re-installing 42 would make this error go away,
but it remains, here it is below in all its fullness.

*/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin,
10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib*
*  Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_darwin*
*  Reason: image not found*
*pdp: can't load library*
*/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_darwin,
10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib*
*  Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_darwin*
*  Reason: image not found*
*pidip: can't load library*

I might be wrong, but I don't believe this did appear before, and now it's
here forever. Thoughts?

cheers

2015-03-08 15:09 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :

> (Assuming we're on a Mac:)  There's at least one more thing, which is to
> erase Pd's default settings.  The command,
>
> defaults delete org.puredata
>
> should do this for Pd vanilla, and perhaps will do it for extended as well
> (but I'm not sure about that.)
>
> Also, the mac caches all sorts of per-application info, bog knows where -
> for instence, the Pd icons will probably stay there forever so that
> anything
> named "*.pd" will get the icon, even after Pd has been removed.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 12:36:18PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
> > rm -r /Applications/Pd-extended.app
> >
> > rm -r /Applications/Pd-0.46-5.app
> >
> > rm -r ~/Library/Pd/
> >
> > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist
> >
> > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.wish.plist
> >
> > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pdextended.pd-gui.plist
> >
> > rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.plist
> >
> >
> > ??
> >
> > that might be it i think... but i dont think it changed in 10.10 afaik
> >
> > m
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How to nuke it and make it as if Pd (vanilla or extended) had never
> ever
> > > existed and the system never saw it before?
> > >
> > > I had ways to do this before, but things seemed to have changed
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
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Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread Miller Puckette
(Assuming we're on a Mac:)  There's at least one more thing, which is to
erase Pd's default settings.  The command,

defaults delete org.puredata

should do this for Pd vanilla, and perhaps will do it for extended as well
(but I'm not sure about that.)

Also, the mac caches all sorts of per-application info, bog knows where -
for instence, the Pd icons will probably stay there forever so that anything
named "*.pd" will get the icon, even after Pd has been removed.

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 12:36:18PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
> rm -r /Applications/Pd-extended.app
> 
> rm -r /Applications/Pd-0.46-5.app
> 
> rm -r ~/Library/Pd/
> 
> rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist
> 
> rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.wish.plist
> 
> rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pdextended.pd-gui.plist
> 
> rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.plist
> 
> 
> ??
> 
> that might be it i think... but i dont think it changed in 10.10 afaik
> 
> m
> 
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres 
> wrote:
> 
> > How to nuke it and make it as if Pd (vanilla or extended) had never ever
> > existed and the system never saw it before?
> >
> > I had ways to do this before, but things seemed to have changed
> >
> > cheers
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Re: [PD] how to completely remove pd (vanilla/extended) on yosemite?

2015-03-08 Thread me.grimm
rm -r /Applications/Pd-extended.app

rm -r /Applications/Pd-0.46-5.app

rm -r ~/Library/Pd/

rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist

rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.wish.plist

rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pdextended.pd-gui.plist

rm ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.plist


??

that might be it i think... but i dont think it changed in 10.10 afaik

m

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> How to nuke it and make it as if Pd (vanilla or extended) had never ever
> existed and the system never saw it before?
>
> I had ways to do this before, but things seemed to have changed
>
> cheers
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