Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Billy Stiltner]

re:
"If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android"
i also need the same webpage to run as an interface on the computer.
still havent got this sorted out yet. i need something that  will work like
across platforms , so far the JAVA socket has been the best thing,
its just that each platform (for pc) has dfferent ways of allowing the
JAVA applets in the browser so ... was looking for a better solution that
would also work
with android. something like a pd ws server or your aciles would be great.
i still havent found where your ; is getting replaced with /;
its not too hard to filter them out. not sure i need to have the semicolons
if i'm sending messages to pd from a webpage.
seems like it should work without them not sure though

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Billy Stiltner 
wrote:

> awesome and thanks
> will look into it when i figure out how  to set a wifi hotspot's wlan0
> default ip  to something other than
> eth0's gateway ip
> I haven't tried to do anything with libpd since it first came out and
> there was only
> one set of instructions for building for processing  with eclipse,
> didn't know pdsend was included with it.
> on another note, found these things
> https://github.com/sampumon/websocket-bash
> http://websocketd.com/
> also have tidied up my drumloops and drum samples collection
> so they all have lowercase .wav names as well as removed the spaces from
> all the filenames.
> now I can start cleaning up my patches that have oodlins of messageboxes
> with samples and loops.
> attached is sample selector patch
> have run into a problem with html/javascript
> with trying to put a really large mode selection page in a separate page
> or pages
> that loads up only a section at a time when needed so that the main page
> is not so big
> have looked at link rel type=html
> and
> html imports but neither work right
> it's a task getting data in a format that can be readily used in an easy
> way with
> here is the start of the list
> http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/modename.html
> it's apiece of work just copy and paste into your favorite text editor to
> see what i mean
> my active version of it can be seen  here
> https://archive.org/download/xensynth/xesynthcontrol/
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Chris McCormick 
> wrote:
>
>> On 14/10/16 06:30, Billy Stiltner wrote:
>>
>>> likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource
>>> for finding android development apps that can be run right on the
>>> android that runs them
>>>
>>
>> If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android, either to make sound or
>> to control Pd patches running on another device, then MobMuPlat or
>> PdDroidParty are both apps that can do that. MobMuPlat is still under very
>> active development and looks amazing.
>>
>> In the past I've built UIs in Pd, run then on Android devices with
>> PdDroidParty and openned a netsend socket to another [headless] device
>> running Pd to control it remotely with those UIs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> --
>> http://mccormick.cx/
>>
>
>
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Billy Stiltner]

awesome and thanks
will look into it when i figure out how  to set a wifi hotspot's wlan0
default ip  to something other than
eth0's gateway ip
I haven't tried to do anything with libpd since it first came out and there
was only
one set of instructions for building for processing  with eclipse,
didn't know pdsend was included with it.
on another note, found these things
https://github.com/sampumon/websocket-bash
http://websocketd.com/
also have tidied up my drumloops and drum samples collection
so they all have lowercase .wav names as well as removed the spaces from
all the filenames.
now I can start cleaning up my patches that have oodlins of messageboxes
with samples and loops.
attached is sample selector patch
have run into a problem with html/javascript
with trying to put a really large mode selection page in a separate page or
pages
that loads up only a section at a time when needed so that the main page is
not so big
have looked at link rel type=html
and
html imports but neither work right
it's a task getting data in a format that can be readily used in an easy
way with
here is the start of the list
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/modename.html
it's apiece of work just copy and paste into your favorite text editor to
see what i mean
my active version of it can be seen  here
https://archive.org/download/xensynth/xesynthcontrol/

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Chris McCormick 
wrote:

> On 14/10/16 06:30, Billy Stiltner wrote:
>
>> likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource
>> for finding android development apps that can be run right on the
>> android that runs them
>>
>
> If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android, either to make sound or
> to control Pd patches running on another device, then MobMuPlat or
> PdDroidParty are both apps that can do that. MobMuPlat is still under very
> active development and looks amazing.
>
> In the past I've built UIs in Pd, run then on Android devices with
> PdDroidParty and openned a netsend socket to another [headless] device
> running Pd to control it remotely with those UIs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
> --
> http://mccormick.cx/
>
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Chris McCormick]

On 14/10/16 06:30, Billy Stiltner wrote:

likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource
for finding android development apps that can be run right on the
android that runs them


If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android, either to make sound or 
to control Pd patches running on another device, then MobMuPlat or 
PdDroidParty are both apps that can do that. MobMuPlat is still under 
very active development and looks amazing.


In the past I've built UIs in Pd, run then on Android devices with 
PdDroidParty and openned a netsend socket to another [headless] device 
running Pd to control it remotely with those UIs.


Cheers,

Chris.

--
http://mccormick.cx/

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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2016-10-18 10:40, Billy Stiltner wrote:
> not sure what OS it can be used with, maybe there is a debian package for
> it?

yes, isc-dhcp-server is the standard professional¹ DHCP server in Debian.

fgmasdr
IOhannes

¹ to be deployed in realworld networks; and as opposed to adhoc
solutions like dnsmasq



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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Billy Stiltner]

re:  free dhcp server
https://www.isc.org/downloads/
found in freebsd docs
not sure what OS it can be used with, maybe there is a debian package for
it?
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Thomas Mayer]

On 14.10.2016 06:06, Billy Stiltner wrote:
> http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible
> simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in.
> imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument
> ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience
> that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.


DJ and me are doing apps for both: Accessing sensor data and sending it
to Pd patches as well as sending the data via OSC. I will perform with
several Android phones handed out to the audience next week in Munich.

Apparently we are still missing the documentation and downloads, but the
code is there and contains help in English, Portuguese and German:

https://github.com/SensorApps
http://sensors2.org/

Hth,
Thomas
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dumb my suggestions are."
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Billy Stiltner]

its kinda crazy, am at the studio and found an old notebook with a beat
matrix pattern drawn out for one of my drum loops like 20 years ago. i
think the program that was used was called awave, it was a simple program,
no midi just painting with waves on a grid. to change the pitch of an
event, the mouse was dragged up or down or a keypress on selected event
would also work. seems like i used cool edit pro and cakewalk at first for
live audio recording in realtime and the latency 20 years ago didnt seem as
bad as it has been in the last 10 years at times.  i guess its called
operating system bloat.
I might have developed a solution to the message handling waste of cpu for
unneeded message checking all those years ago.
so neat to find an old notebook, it kinda brings back the memories of what
i need to program. its like i had a great idea and maybe i can use that
idea to make things work the way they ought to instead of the way they work
for the sake of every reason besides why i need things to work, lol.
anyways, thanks for the info patrice, @Dan. yes 1 GHz is better than 66MHz,
these things ought to be smokin as  dsp.
  and as far as dns server, seems like freeBSD server had http server as
well as dns server  way back then. am needing to set up a server like right
now anyways so will let you know what i find,
here is for your sidetrack reading pleasure
http://bdm.cc/2014/02/adat-layla/

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> Maybe android is best used to send OSC messages to a pd patch running on a
> real computer.
> You have the accelerometers and possibly other sensors builtin, the whole
> thing is a gesture controller not a dsp machine.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Tell that to RjDj. dsp on mobile has been a reality for some time now and
> getting more capable every year. How long ago was it we were all doing live
> patches on single core ~1 Ghz machines? :)
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Dan Wilcox]

> Maybe android is best used to send OSC messages to a pd patch running on a 
> real computer.
> You have the accelerometers and possibly other sensors builtin, the whole 
> thing is a gesture controller not a dsp machine.
> 
> Martin

Tell that to RjDj. dsp on mobile has been a reality for some time now and 
getting more capable every year. How long ago was it we were all doing live 
patches on single core ~1 Ghz machines? :)


Dan Wilcox
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danomatika.com 
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[patrice colet]

The only free solution I've found for doing such thing is quite 
complicated as usual, and it's about creating many accounts on free 
servers allowing the use of sockets, a server at home running scripts 
for routing connections and upload a database where resides all 
parameters shared with all connected clients to the socket server, and 
an account on another server (I haven't found a free one but it's 
relatively cheap) that does the DNS mapping for connecting with a single 
URL.



Le 14/10/2016 à 06:06, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible 
simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in.
imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument 
ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the 
audience that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the 
interface.


On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Daniel Iglesia 
> wrote:


Never used it or seen it in action, but there's
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui=en

plus some others on

https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-java-coder-programmers/


though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as
Android Studio...let me know how it goes though

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner
> wrote:

likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a
good resource for finding android development apps that can be
run right on the android that runs them, or alternatively like
a good url for learning how to root them, so the perfect
ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb , current
android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance


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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Billy Stiltner]

re: android as dsp machine
will be glad to find a java alternative for multiplatform that can send
FUDI messages from a browser, without using anything between but air or
cable. its kinda like , hey u know the world is gettin familiar with the
networking and computer thing so the dream dynamic html compatibility
across browsers is working (ma ybe with a bit of bloat) like it was
imagined nearly 20 years ago except when you want to use the browser for
local "same machine" networking or even "remote" networking on a private
network, the low level communication protocols ought to be  seamlessly
integrated along with the elegant coding playground
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Martin Peach]

Maybe android is best used to send OSC messages to a pd patch running on a
real computer.
You have the accelerometers and possibly other sensors builtin, the whole
thing is a gesture controller not a dsp machine.

Martin

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Billy Stiltner 
wrote:

> http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible
> simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in.
> imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready
> to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can
> join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Daniel Iglesia 
> wrote:
>
>> Never used it or seen it in action, but there's
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui=en
>> plus some others on
>> https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-j
>> ava-coder-programmers/
>> though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android
>> Studio...let me know how it goes though
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner > > wrote:
>>
>>> likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource
>>> for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android
>>> that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root
>>> them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb ,
>>> current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Billy Stiltner]

http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible simpler
3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in.
imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready
to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can
join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Daniel Iglesia 
wrote:

> Never used it or seen it in action, but there's
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui=en
> plus some others on
> https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-
> java-coder-programmers/
> though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android
> Studio...let me know how it goes though
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner 
> wrote:
>
>> likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource
>> for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android
>> that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root
>> them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb ,
>> current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
>>
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Re: [PD] on android to root n linux or not

[Daniel Iglesia]

Never used it or seen it in action, but there's
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui=en
plus some others on
https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-java-coder-programmers/
though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android
Studio...let me know how it goes though

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner 
wrote:

> likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource
> for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android
> that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root
> them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb ,
> current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
>
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