Re: Let's Do It!!
Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? ENGLAND! :-) Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
France vs Florida
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually in both cases the major downside is the native population... Clive Antibes France
Re: *ist
It can't be any worse than people asking to see a Neekon, or a EEEOUS?. :) By that, I presume Americans say 'Nii'kon (long 'i' as in 'time')?? Pronunciation seems to vary depending on geography. In England we say 'Nih'kon' (short 'i') as in the name 'Nick' or the Knights Who Say 'Ni' What is the original Japanese pronunciation? Peter? Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: *ist
Dnia 20-03-2003 o godz. 9:40 Lawrence Kwan napisa(a): It can't be any worse than people asking to see a Neekon But isn't this closer to how Japanese pronounce it? As I understand, Nikon comes from the original name Nippon Kogaku. And pronouncing it as NAI-kon is more of the American way. Maybe Ken can confirm. I know a little about Japanese language but I'm saying Neekon as well - that's how you read it in Polish. With *ist it's pretty simple as well - I would just ommit the star symbol and ask for e-st (hope I got the fonetical transcription right). I might be not far from getting it right - many words are very simillari pronaunced in Polish as in Japanese - karaoke is the first that comes to mind. Maciej -- Super konkurs dla studentw! 60 praktyk do wygrania! III edycja Wirtualnie grasz - praktyk masz http://konkurs.wp.pl/praktyka/
Re: Let's Do It!!
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Cotty wrote: Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? ENGLAND! Bosh, stuff and nonsense. :) The answer is obviously Canada. More specifically, Winnipeg, which has gotta be pretty close to the geographic center of North America. chris
RE: *ist
Ni -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or the Knights Who Say 'Ni'
Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)
In a message dated 20/03/03 04:36:58 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got the greatest MF camera ever, the T90 because of the descriptions I read in the old Modern Photography. The feature that I liked the best in the T90 was the AA battery power it uses. Had to have the shutter replaced recently. Expensive, but now I have a great camera again. Still a Pentax fan, however. Probably will never get the *ist D. Now if only Pentax would copy the Canon Powershot Pro 90 IS. Jim A. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:47:45 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:59:21 -0500 - Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) I recall the FD lens mount users gave a great big shit about it when the EOS system came out, Bruce. As a matter of fact, they were extremely pissed that they, and their equipment was being orphaned. I recall also, Canon had a pretty classy camera out at the time, was it the F1? They were trying to be pro when they orphaned the mount. The T-90... Still one of the greatest MF camera ever. Like the LX with its mirror syndrome, it has its classic bug that shows with an EEE (error) message and ask for magnet cleaning or a shutter rebuild. Just by the way... Actually, the T90 was the template for the EOS system, stylewise, but the F1 was the premier Canon body of the day. William Robb Good men after my own heart. F1s worked in the rain, T90s didn't. The reason I changed to Canon - spotmetering gave a lower failure rate and fast teles were available to hire. Plus I started work for a sports agency who used Canon so it just made sense. If Pentax had pulled out an equivalent back then to the F1 it might have been a more considered move, I suppose. Kind regards Peter
Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why Istick to Pentax)
on 20.03.03 1:55, Lukasz Kacperczyk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? What about Warsaw, Poland? ;-) Or better - Bieszczady, Poland - beautiful mountains and really cheap accomodation. And it is midway between Australia and USA :-) You can see photos at http://www.bieszczady.pl/portal/html/galeria.php?strona=galeria1 -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I sticktoPentax)
One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares. Paul Paul Eriksson wrote: Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive. /Paul Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Hmm.. Perhaps we should organize something then.. one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ? Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: Message from the new Mayor of Brighton.
David Mann wrote: Speaking of Brighton Pier, here's a photo I took on it when I was over that way. One of the people shows a strong resemblance to Peter, Future Mayor of Brighton and Lord of the Brighton Chapter of *ist-D and Black Limited Lenses. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/mayhem.cgi?recordnum=8outp ut_file=uk_output.htmldata_file=uk.db LOL! Which one? Malcolm PS - only joking Peter!!
Re: *ist
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist 'Nih'kon' (short 'i') as in the name 'Nick' or the Knights Who Say 'Ni' Oh, them... Cutting trees with a hering, eh?:) In Poland we pronounce it in the same way... Regards Artur
RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Or better - Bieszczady, Poland - beautiful mountains and really cheap accomodation. Sounds great :-) Health permitting, there are many places I would like to visit and photograph - and Poland is certainly one of them. I would like to tour and fully comprehend the vast size of Canada and the USA (Island life eh!) and visit Sweden, Norway and Finland. So much to see, so much film to use! And I have missed out so many countries I would like to visit. Thank goodness for the internet and all the pictures in the PUG or links from e-mails which show me how nice it is where ~you all~ live. Malcolm
Re: *ist
Makers of products for interneational trade have this exact problem time and time again. Either the name construction is pronounced way off the intended way, or it has meaning in some other language never intended or forseen! I see no problem with NAI-kon for Americans. NEE-kon is just fine, too, but not the way most Americans would pronounce it. Especially those not familiar with the Japanese language. Lawrence Kwan wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, David R Spaulding wrote: It can't be any worse than people asking to see a Neekon I'll bet all the clerks knew what they meant, tho'...right? But isn't this closer to how Japanese pronounce it? As I understand, Nikon comes from the original name Nippon Kogaku. And pronouncing it as NAI-kon is more of the American way. Maybe Ken can confirm. keith whaley
Re: *ist
Rob Brigham wrote: Ni Which can, all by itself, be pronounced nih as the sound in nickel, nee as the sound in neat or n-eye as the sound in Nikon! smile keith whaley -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or the Knights Who Say 'Ni'
Re: Message from the new Mayor of Brighton.
We'll be down to see you soon :-) And repair your pier!! Wasn't it the old pier that fell down? The one they should have demolished years ago? (uh oh, here comes another argument g). 1. That pier would take an awful lot of repairing. Should I provide tiny cucumber sandwiches or onakamiyaki? 2. Yes, it was, and I agree with you - so no argument there. Shame really, but it does reflect the town's character in a way, now decrepit and a shadow of its' former self. Is the emperor wearing any clothes? Which one is me then? Kind regards Peter
Re: *ist
In a message dated 20/03/03 10:17:06 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, David R Spaulding wrote: It can't be any worse than people asking to see a Neekon But isn't this closer to how Japanese pronounce it? As I understand, Nikon comes from the original name Nippon Kogaku. And pronouncing it as NAI-kon is more of the American way. Maybe Ken can confirm. Been there done that, bought the t-shirt, annually without fail. On the Ni-ko-n list. 3 syllables. But the Americans don't say Nye-pon, do they? Or do they? Peter
Re: *ist
On 03.3.20 3:40 AM, Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, David R Spaulding wrote: It can't be any worse than people asking to see a Neekon But isn't this closer to how Japanese pronounce it? As I understand, Nikon comes from the original name Nippon Kogaku. And pronouncing it as NAI-kon is more of the American way. Maybe Ken can confirm. Hi Lawrence and all, You are right, including the history behind it. It is always pronounced in Japan Neekon but with short I (Ni-Kon), and it is the correct pronunciation. NAI-Kon is North American way of pronunciation and it has been like that as far as I remember. It is like pronouncing Iraq as AI-Raq (no political comment). Cheers, Ken
Re: PUG Deadlines
Too bad. Dark Rainy day here.I'll have to take an indoor picture of my cat. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist
Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Brigham wrote: Ni Which can, all by itself, be pronounced nih as the sound in nickel, nee as the sound in neat or n-eye as the sound in Nikon! smile But however you pronounce it, I'm not bringing you any damn shrubbery! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
SG-60 Question
Sorry to get off the topic politics. But I was wondering about the SG- 60 screen, I recently acquired an extra with a body and was thinking of selling because I like very wide angle lenses. I tried it with my 17mm f4 fish-eye and it looks fine. Boz's site (BTW Thanks and sorry to hear about your decision) says that it is recommended for lenses greater than 28 and wider than 3.5, has anyone else had this experience? Thanks, Geoff
Re: Let's do it.
Hi, Runing about 24hours behind threads on the archive, so this may already have been covered. There is only one place a universal PDML meet could be. It's the place where Pentax usually debuts its announcements of new models. It's a long way from anyone on this list. It's... Where? mike
RE: Let's do it.
Pal's house? -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's the place where Pentax usually debuts its announcements of new models. It's a long way from anyone on this list. It's... Where? mike
Re: Let's do it.
Ulan Bator, of course At 08:46 AM 3/20/03, throwing caution to the wind, mike wilson wrote: Hi, Runing about 24hours behind threads on the archive, so this may already have been covered. There is only one place a universal PDML meet could be. It's the place where Pentax usually debuts its announcements of new models. It's a long way from anyone on this list. It's... Where? mike
Horizon Panoramic camera
Hi All Mayby a bit off topic. I'm considering a Horizon 202 camera. Does anyone here has any experience with one of these Russian panoramic cameras? A longtime Pentax User (over 22 years now)
Re: THE FRENCH
Already got an Extra class. But no gear or antennas that work on 17. Will 20 do? -Mat collinb wrote: b. Everyone, get your General Class license and we can all talk on 17 meters! (I'm trying for mine in the next month)
Lumetar 135mm f2.8 screwmount lens
Anybody ever heard of this brand? Is it any good or just another old 3rd party screwmount? Regards, Bob S.
Re: Let's Do It!!
Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? ENGLAND! Bosh, stuff and nonsense. :) The answer is obviously Canada. More specifically, Winnipeg, which has gotta be pretty close to the geographic center of North America. Dah! You need to be on GMT, man! It's much more conducive to genteel libation and conversation, didn't you know? A well known fact I just made up. If I win the Lottery I'll book you all flights, with an *ist D waiting on the seat. An extra big cheers, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
RE: Lumetar 135mm f2.8 screwmount lens
Honeywell used the name for a 1250mm mirror optic for Exacta. Also a dirt cheap, and in noway deserving the brand name, series of Rollei 110 cartridge cameras used a lumitar lens. These were made by Tudor in Japan. I don't mean the Rollei A110 and E110, those where real Rollei-cameras with Zeiss lenses (Tessars I believe) I also think the 2.8 135mm lens is by far the most produced type of lens next to the standard lens. Every manufacturer made one. Unless its a Leitz Elmarit it couldn't be worth much. Sounds to me its just a funny name. Try it if its cheap. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 20 maart 2003 14:57 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Lumetar 135mm f2.8 screwmount lens Anybody ever heard of this brand? Is it any good or just another old 3rd party screwmount? Regards, Bob S.
Re: Cross process
The April edition of Photographic has an article about cross processing. Jim A. From: David R Spaulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.lycos.com:80) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:37:27 -0700 To: pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cross process Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 23:37:49 -0500 Finally had the chance to send a test roll of color process BW through E-6 processing. Turned out dark and green. The lab suggested pushing so I think I'll give it another go. Anyone have some experience with this. I thought it would be a fun way to shoot some commercial type stock. I don't have a digital yet (waiting) so no fun stuff with White Balance and such. David --- David Spaulding Photographer _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: Got to fondle an Optio S and *ist today
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: Okay, the old stuff-it-in-an-Altoids box gets old in a hurry, I'd guess... You think? If I had money to spend on stuff like that, I'd own one so I really could have a camera with me always and everywhere.. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Kalimar MC Auto 35-135mm f:3.5
Hi gang, does anyone know anything about a Kalimar 35-135mm f:3.5? According to the third party cult classics page (http://medfmt.8k.com/third/table1.txt) it appears to be introduced in 1984 and it´s got a macro mode. One of these lenses just might be related to the Kalimar: kiron35-135 3.5 83$329autozoom, macro promura 35-135 3.5 84$225autozoom, macro one-touch zykkor 35-135 3.5 84$176autozoom macro sakar35-135 3.5 85$220autozoom, macro one-touch rokina 35-135 3.5 84$400autozoom, macro one-touch So, any information would be apprecieated! -Matti
RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax)
And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks. Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive. tv -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax) One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares. Paul Paul Eriksson wrote: Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive. /Paul Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Hmm.. Perhaps we should organize something then.. one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ? Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: THE FRENCH
If my barefoot Alinco DX-70 and tuned longwire can make themselves heard over the clutter, yes. Bill - Original Message - From: Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:51 AM Subject: Re: THE FRENCH Already got an Extra class. But no gear or antennas that work on 17. Will 20 do? -Mat collinb wrote: b. Everyone, get your General Class license and we can all talk on 17 meters! (I'm trying for mine in the next month)
Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)
In American Southern English that would be y'all Bill Thank goodness for the internet and all the pictures in the PUG or links from e-mails which show me how nice it is where ~you all~ live. Malcolm
RE: Let's Do It!!
Cotty wrote: If I win the Lottery I'll book you all flights, with an *ist D waiting on the seat. I'm sorry, but giving away an *ist, is already at becoming a Mayor. I think you're bidding against yourself! Can you raise the bid to country house ownership and lottery win? Malcolm
Re: *ist
Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Brigham wrote: Ni Which can, all by itself, be pronounced nih as the sound in nickel, nee as the sound in neat or n-eye as the sound in Nikon! smile But however you pronounce it, I'm not bringing you any damn shrubbery! Huh? That went over my head so fast, it snatched my toupé away! keith -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax)
OK, four votes for Vegas. I think it`s a winner! Wait, five votes, my wife wants to go too. Wait again, my daughter wants to go too, Six votes for Vegas!!! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax) And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks. Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive. tv -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax) One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares. Paul Paul Eriksson wrote: Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive. /Paul Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Hmm.. Perhaps we should organize something then.. one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ? Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)
To be technically correct, that would be all y'all. ;-) On Thursday 20 March 2003 01:29 pm, Bill Owens wrote: In American Southern English that would be y'all Bill Thank goodness for the internet and all the pictures in the PUG or links from e-mails which show me how nice it is where ~you all~ live. Malcolm -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San Antonio, Texas Business Is Going To The Dogs
Re: SG-60 Question
- Original Message - From: Geoff Moes Subject: SG-60 Question Sorry to get off the topic politics. But I was wondering about the SG- 60 screen, I recently acquired an extra with a body and was thinking of selling because I like very wide angle lenses. I tried it with my 17mm f4 fish-eye and it looks fine. Boz's site (BTW Thanks and sorry to hear about your decision) says that it is recommended for lenses greater than 28 and wider than 3.5, has anyone else had this experience? I've used it with the A 20mm f/2.8, the Tak 17mm f/4 fishey, the Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 fishey and an old Tokina 17mm f/3.5. All has been well. Apparently, the screen can darken at the corners a bit, but I haven't noticed. William Robb
Re: *ist
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:40:52 Lawrence Kwan wrote: But isn't this closer to how Japanese pronounce it? As I understand, Nikon comes from the original name Nippon Kogaku. And pronouncing it as NAI-kon is more of the American way. Maybe Ken can confirm. You are probably right, but after a while either would be correct. How about Nikken? :) --- David Spaulding Photographer _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: *ist
Mark Roberts wrote: Monty Python and the Holy Grail. King Arthur and his knights were terrorized by a group of knights who said NI loudly and repeatedly until Arthur agreed to provide them with some shrubbery. Well, Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zoo-owli-zhiv (ob content: a sound certain Pentax shutters have been accused of making... ;-) Regards, Tim
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
Yep, I have one I got on ebay a few years ago. Don't remember what I paid for it. It's a nice item, certainly something to show off. Doug At 12:05 PM 3/20/03, throwing caution to the wind, Joe Wilensky wrote: I won this auction yesterday -- has anyone ever seen this particular Pentax item? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3213949620ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3213949620ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6 Joe
Re: SG-60 Question
I've used it with the A 20mm f/2.8, the Tak 17mm f/4 fishey, the Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 fishey and an old Tokina 17mm f/3.5. All has been well. Apparently, the screen can darken at the corners a bit, but I haven't noticed. Same results here just for the A 20/2.8. I haven't noticed any darkening in the corners, either. Fred
Re June Pug theme
How's this for a great phot showing where and when the equinox occurs: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)
HI! FK For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I FK for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I FK don't think anyone else here would either. FK Feroze FK Boz wrote FK and I must say good-bye to this group. It's like being forced to abandon FK your domicile... I'd second that opinion, or is it like n+1 here. Indeed, especially if Boz is going to keep KMP alive... --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625
Re: *ist
Good heavens! I saw it too, and it still slipped right by me! I must have been digging in the popcorn bowl for some remnants, and missed it! g But, how I missed that classic of humor sketch I DON'T know! Thanks, keith Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Brigham wrote: Ni Which can, all by itself, be pronounced nih as the sound in nickel, nee as the sound in neat or n-eye as the sound in Nikon! smile But however you pronounce it, I'm not bringing you any damn shrubbery! Huh? That went over my head so fast, it snatched my toupé away! Monty Python and the Holy Grail. King Arthur and his knights were terrorized by a group of knights who said NI loudly and repeatedly until Arthur agreed to provide them with some shrubbery. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)
Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FK For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I FK for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I FK don't think anyone else here would either. FK Feroze FK Boz wrote FK and I must say good-bye to this group. It's like being forced to abandon FK your domicile... I'd second that opinion, or is it like n+1 here. Indeed, especially if Boz is going to keep KMP alive... And if he's not going to keep it alive I hope he gives someone the opportunity to mirror it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Horizon Panoramic camera
On March 20, 2003 08:44 am, E. van Ginkel wrote: Hi All Mayby a bit off topic. I'm considering a Horizon 202 camera. Does anyone here has any experience with one of these Russian panoramic cameras? A longtime Pentax User (over 22 years now) Try this: http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/panorama/horizon202/horizon202.html I checked what the new price is here in North America and it seems like a lot of money for not much camera. Why not just get a roll film back for a view camera? Doesn't seem like it would cost too much more. 6x12 would be the same sort of thing but I'm betting in the long run more enjoyable. This is the second time in a couple of weeks somebody mentioned these cameras. The last time to tell me they'd sold it for a 6x12 back. Nick
Re: *ist
I have to say, that name is brilliant. I didn't see any of this kind of discussions about the name on a MZ-S or so, so what better to get attention? This weird name sticks in the brain. On Thursday 20 March 2003 01:57, Keith Whaley wrote: I have to say, Tom, that name is the dumbest name they could have come up with. Perhaps if everyone had to buy it online, and all they did was LOOK at it, not pronounce it, much less of a problem. However, I think your scenario of Anti-Marketing is about correct. You and I might buy one, regardless, but we're unique. We belong to a bunch of folks that are already dyed-in-the-wool Pentax lovers. Well, most of us anyhow... I think if anyone ever does a marketing analysis of Pentax products after the fact, this has to be one of the more colossal mistakes... keith whaley T Rittenhouse wrote: And while we are at it, just how do you pronounce *ist? Leave it to Pentax Marketing to come up with a name that is going to cause a potential customer to think, I have no idea how to ask about that camera. I don't want to make a fool of myselff Let me see that Nikon, please Maybe they should change the name to Pentax Anti-Marketing Department. Or maybe Pentax Let's Drive Ourselves Out of the Camera Business Department. I can see them sitting around that big table, No matter what we do we are still selling cameras. We don't give the customers what they want, and they still buy tthem. We make sure the flagship camera is not in the stores, and we still sell them. I know what, we will give the next model an unpronouncible name, then the customers won't even be able to ask to see it. That will cut sales! Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
Yep, they're kind of rare though. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter I won this auction yesterday -- has anyone ever seen this particular Pentax item? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3213949620ssPageName=AD ME:B:EOAB:US:6http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3213949620 ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6 Joe
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
For some reason Ed's reply appeared before Joe's OP. A PDML distortion of the space-time continuum? Joe, it's a nice thing and worth about what you paid for it. Nice heavy, too. Kind regards Peter
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
Correction. I believe you had a good deal there. Green felt on the bottom, is it? Peter
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
Thanks for the replies -- now I just have to get the Pentax KX belt buckle! grin Why do people say they won something when they had to pay for it? Ed Maybe because if you get outbid, it feels like you lost something you never had in the first place! g Joe
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
I haven't seen the bottom yet, since I haven't received it yet. But I'll check as soon as I get it! Joe Correction. I believe you had a good deal there. Green felt on the bottom, is it? Peter
Re: Let's Do It!!
And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks. Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive. Actually, yes I'd come to Vegas. I wonder if Bally's takes Paypal yet? (Tom that does not mean anything:) ) Been a while since I last jumped on the quartermania bandwagon, heck - if the mrs wants to go home for Easter, why can't I have fun too? I'd consider Vegas. Would have to be next year or much later this Really. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Sunagor lens
I am holding a Sunagor Super Wide Semi Fish-Eye 0.42x made in Japan lens in my hand. It has no focus control or aperture. On the back it has 54mm thread, and a step down ring to 52mm. If I understand this correct, you can mount it on a lens like a filter, and it will give you a wide angle lens. Doe anyone know how good this is? What would the value be? The lens is in very good condition. -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
Re: Got to fondle an Optio S and *ist today
gfen wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: That's precisely why I wanted one. Still not out of the question, but... I'm a big fan of tiny things...and lots of small things aren't tiny enough for me. I like to be able to carry everything I need in a pocket, if possible, and not so that my pants bulge out and fall down, either. :) Since it would be my one and only digital, I got to thinking about the specification limits. Think about how digital, right now, fits into your overall picture. Yeah, I still am... Not that the 3 Mp S is in any way shabby, but that the 5 Mp 550 extends those specifications, almost in every direction... I bought a digital camera for my girlfriend this CHristmas. An Optio 330GS. I bought it in a way that fit into my overall thinking, as well. We both go on a trip together, we both take cameras. Why should she take her PnS film camera when my film cameras are superior in every way (but size and weight)? Didn't make sense. She can take her digital along for the snapshots, and I can break out a film camera for the nice pictures. The 330 seemed to be the best choice for alot of reasons, including the fact that its highest quality setting should produce adequete 4x6 and 5x7 images. Anything above that could be covered by my own equipment. I didn't need any more (nor could I justify the expense, but work with me here!). If I had money to spare, and were buying for me: I'd buy an Optio S. Pure convience. If I'm planning on photo ops, I'll take a 35, 645, or 4x5..but if I'm just heading out for whatever, I'd rather have the tiny, tiny cmaera I won't think twice about carrying, rather than one that I might leave at home cause even though its pretty small and light, it still makes my pockets bulge. I understand... At 8 oz. the 550 weighs 1/2 lb., while the S is only 1/4 lb... I suppose if I just wanted a digital for snapshots, I'd be happy with the S, but I would tend to use it (my new digital) when I didn't want to use film, but still wanted most of the other capabilities. So it comes down to more convienece over the ability to have better results... No, it's convenience VS. better results. Not MORE convenience. Well, I guess there might really be no distinction there, come to think of it... I frequently DO tend to take photos, whether with digital or film, at each end of all the specs, and if I regularly got to the point where I cursed my decision to take the more convenient camera...and was unable to do dim existing light or sunny snow photos, I'd feel I'd erred. Zoom, for instance. I am enough older now so I do not use a walking zoom. If I'm across a creek or some shoreline rocks and I want a tighter crop, these days I'd zoom in on it. Most likely the 5X zoom and 187mm lens would get what I'm looking for, and the 3X zoom with the 105mm wouldn't quite be able to do it. Also, if I did take this not-quite-tight-enough photo with the 3 Mp camera, I wouldn't be able to take advantage of the higher density of the sensor and crop to fit and expand, if I wanted to... ...however, what if that slightly larger camera detracts from your willingness to ALWAYS have it? A 5x7 of the UFO landing is worth more than an anal probing story with no picture. You're absolutely right, of course! First, get SOME photo! The Optio 550 is still pocketable, however. Yes,. it's bulkier than the S, indeed, but much more capable. It carries a 187mm lens in a 3 X 3.9 X 1.6 thick package. Try THAT with your MX! I hope it isn't priced out of my range... Why does it feel like I'm arguing or something? Hey, whatever, do what makes you happy.. :) Hah, hah... Thanks for your words! I do appreciate all argument, to help solidify my intentions. You've helped. keith whaley
Re: *ist
Frits Wüthrich wrote: I have to say, that name is brilliant. I didn't see any of this kind of discussions about the name on a MZ-S or so, so what better to get attention? This weird name sticks in the brain. Okay, I take your point. I may be off base, and it's a well-planned and -executed psychological plan to imprint the name in the public. Could be... keith On Thursday 20 March 2003 01:57, Keith Whaley wrote: I have to say, Tom, that name is the dumbest name they could have come up with. Perhaps if everyone had to buy it online, and all they did was LOOK at it, not pronounce it, much less of a problem. However, I think your scenario of Anti-Marketing is about correct. You and I might buy one, regardless, but we're unique. We belong to a bunch of folks that are already dyed-in-the-wool Pentax lovers. Well, most of us anyhow... I think if anyone ever does a marketing analysis of Pentax products after the fact, this has to be one of the more colossal mistakes... keith whaley T Rittenhouse wrote: And while we are at it, just how do you pronounce *ist? Leave it to Pentax Marketing to come up with a name that is going to cause a potential customer to think, I have no idea how to ask about that camera. I don't want to make a fool of myselff Let me see that Nikon, please Maybe they should change the name to Pentax Anti-Marketing Department. Or maybe Pentax Let's Drive Ourselves Out of the Camera Business Department. I can see them sitting around that big table, No matter what we do we are still selling cameras. We don't give the customers what they want, and they still buy tthem. We make sure the flagship camera is not in the stores, and we still sell them. I know what, we will give the next model an unpronouncible name, then the customers won't even be able to ask to see it. That will cut sales! Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
RE: Let's Do It!!
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:38 PM To: Pentax List Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks. Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive. Actually, yes I'd come to Vegas. I wonder if Bally's takes Paypal yet? (Tom that does not mean anything:) ) Been a while since I last jumped on the quartermania bandwagon, heck - if the mrs wants to go home for Easter, why can't I have fun too? I'd consider Vegas. Would have to be next year or much later this We could all hop on a plane after GFM 2004. I'm sure Paris, Las Vegas is lovely in the spring! tv
Re: Horizon Panoramic camera
you don't get the same field of view except with a horrendously expensive lens. Herb - Original Message - From: Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 13:47 Subject: Re: Horizon Panoramic camera I checked what the new price is here in North America and it seems like a lot of money for not much camera. Why not just get a roll film back for a view camera? Doesn't seem like it would cost too much more. 6x12 would be the same sort of thing but I'm betting in the long run more enjoyable.
Re: Got to fondle an Optio S and *ist today
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: No, it's convenience VS. better results. Not MORE convenience. Well, I guess there might really be no distinction there, come to think of it... Nope, there's distinction there, and you've stated which way you feel you want to go.. You see no more convienece in teh tiny S. The Optio 550 is still pocketable, however. Yes,. it's bulkier than the S, indeed, but much more capable. I forgot to mention earlier that one of my big things is tht something that's small to someone is STILL too big for me..like Palm Pilots. I bought a Palm 3 over a Palm 5 when they were both the hot thing, I rarely carried the 3 after the novelty wore off because even those it was small and light, it was still too big to easily fit into a shirt pocket and not hang way down. A 5 probably owuld've fit right in there, and would've been my better choice. Now, sure the 3 had many advantages in pure specs on the 5, however, I wouldn't gladly traded the extra memory and AAA batteries for something I'd actually carry. Hah, hah... Thanks for your words! I do appreciate all argument, to help solidify my intentions. You've helped. Hey, as long as I get to freely rant... ;) -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: Sunagor lens
Adorama sells something like this for about $100 new. i don't know how the two compare in terms of quality, but the idea is the same. it's not a new idea either. Herb - Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 14:42 Subject: Sunagor lens I am holding a Sunagor Super Wide Semi Fish-Eye 0.42x made in Japan lens in my hand. It has no focus control or aperture. On the back it has 54mm thread, and a step down ring to 52mm. If I understand this correct, you can mount it on a lens like a filter, and it will give you a wide angle lens.
Re: Let's Do It!!
Pick a date Cotty. How about a weekend in September? Temp should be just right. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! And cheap rooms. And cheap...um...drinks. Good street shooting, good desert landscapes within an hour's drive. Actually, yes I'd come to Vegas. I wonder if Bally's takes Paypal yet? (Tom that does not mean anything:) ) Been a while since I last jumped on the quartermania bandwagon, heck - if the mrs wants to go home for Easter, why can't I have fun too? I'd consider Vegas. Would have to be next year or much later this Really. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Unusual Pentax ME table lighter
Congratulations! I saw one once at a swap meet. I have a piggy bank ME that I save all of the State quarters in. Jim A. I won this auction yesterday -- has anyone ever seen this particular Pentax item? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3213949620ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3213949620ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6 Joe
RE: Sunagor lens
Hi Frits: I used one of these some years ago for a day. It was a bit of a novelty which wore off its appeal pretty quickly. With a M50mm f:1.7 it gave a full frame image with enough distortion to call it a fisheye effect. With my M28 f:2.8 it gave a circular image within the frame. Optically it had poor sharpness and very low contrast (muddy tonality). It was nearly useless with the 28 mm lens. Needless to say I never had the desire to use it again. I imagine all of these add-ons would give you similar quality. Not recommended. Cheers, - Andrew. -Original Message- From: Frits Wüthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 20, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sunagor lens I am holding a Sunagor Super Wide Semi Fish-Eye 0.42x made in Japan lens in my hand. It has no focus control or aperture. On the back it has 54mm thread, and a step down ring to 52mm. If I understand this correct, you can mount it on a lens like a filter, and it will give you a wide angle lens. Doe anyone know how good this is? What would the value be? The lens is in very good condition. -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
Supra 200 ??? (vs. Supra 100)
Hi, gang I'm a big fan of Kodak Supra 100. It's in fact my favorite film. The problem is it's now discontinued, and it's replaced by Supra 200. Somebody has experience with the new film? How it compares to thr previous 100 film? Is it really 200 iso? All comments welcome Regards = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Let's Do It!!
Seriously, name a date and I'll be there. /Paul Pick a date Cotty. How about a weekend in September? Temp should be just right. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
Goes to.. Well, you can check it out by yourself. :-) Go to: http://www.hasselblad.com/ Click on News Events And: http://www.hasselbladfoundation.org/aktuellte.html Anyone familiar with the photography of the winner? Lasse
Re: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
Never ever heard of him. Nice to see he uses a Rollei. I love Rolleis. Regards Albano --- Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goes to.. Well, you can check it out by yourself. :-) Go to: http://www.hasselblad.com/ Click on News Events And: http://www.hasselbladfoundation.org/aktuellte.html Anyone familiar with the photography of the winner? Lasse = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Horizon Panoramic camera
On March 20, 2003 03:00 pm, Herb Chong wrote: you don't get the same field of view except with a horrendously expensive lens. Which brings up the other issue. You can use whatever lens you'd like. I checked the field of view using the formula on the webpage dealing with the horizon camera. Using a common 90mm lens you actually get more in one direction but I guess that's not the one that matters. Using a 65mm lens gets you about the same. Now a new 65mm isn't cheap but it's cheaper then one of those digital SLR. Considering the list of problems listed for the camera it's a tradeoff no matter how you go. Nick
Re: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
Lasse Karlsson wrote: Goes to.. ... Suda Mafud ? cheers, caveman
Re: Horizon Panoramic camera
i have been keeping my eye on Hasselblad Xpan/Fuji TX-1 prices at KEH.com. it will be a long time before i can justify the expense, but i am keeping an eye out. another option is one of the 35mm Noblex models. Herb - Original Message - From: Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 16:23 Subject: Re: Horizon Panoramic camera Which brings up the other issue. You can use whatever lens you'd like. I checked the field of view using the formula on the webpage dealing with the horizon camera. Using a common 90mm lens you actually get more in one direction but I guess that's not the one that matters. Using a 65mm lens gets you about the same. Now a new 65mm isn't cheap but it's cheaper then one of those digital SLR. Considering the list of problems listed for the camera it's a tradeoff no matter how you go.
RE: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
-Original Message- From: Caveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lasse Karlsson wrote: Goes to.. ... Suda Mafud ? He only shoots geese. tv
Re: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
And: http://www.hasselbladfoundation.org/aktuellte.html Anyone familiar with the photography of the winner? Lasse He's had a book out for some time now called 'You Look Beautiful Like That'. I've looked through it a few times; it's quite interesting, but not quite close enough to my taste to make me get my wallet out. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Supra 200 ??? (vs. Supra 100)
From: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, gang I'm a big fan of Kodak Supra 100. It's in fact my favorite film. The problem is it's now discontinued, and it's replaced by Supra 200. Somebody has experience with the new film? How it compares to thr previous 100 film? Is it really 200 iso? Hi Albano, I'm too a big fan of the Supra 100, and recently started to use the 200. I had in mind a side by side test, but after the first roll I thought it was unnecessary. The Supra 200 is the clear winner for me, mainly because it still has all the advantages of the 100 in terms of grain and colour rendition, but it seems sharper (to my eye, at least) and the lab I bring all my negatives to seems to do a better job with the 200 (to be honest, I always read what filters they are using when they print and, under the same conditions - standard filtrature -, the 200 is a bit more... natural - it's a sort of a Reala with 200 speed). I think it is really a 200 speed film (the 100 always seemed to me a 125, but I guess I'm too anal about it). There are times when I still prefer to use a 100 film (usually the Reala, now) but it's a big advantage to have a bit more speed. It allows me to avoid buying too much Supra 400 (I like this one a lot, too, but when I really need more speed the 800 is often a better choice). Hope this helps Gianfranco = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Supra 200 ??? (vs. Supra 100)
Hi, Gianfranco Thanks for the input. After making my question I found this info on Kodak UK website. Maybe it is usefull for you too: An integral part of the development for the new Royal Supra 200 film was for its grain when exposed at ISO 100 to be similar to that of the current Royal 100 and Supra 100 professional film. This goal was set to allow photographers for whom fineness of grain is the prime criterion in film selection, to be able to use the new Royal Supra 200 film rated at 100, free of any grain worries. Having the worlds best grain at 200 speed and improved sharpness, the Royal Supra 200 speed film is more versatile than a 100 speed film, while still meeting the image structure needs of previous 100 speed users. This makes it a good replacement for the old Royal 100 and Supra 100 professional films, which will be discontinued. Regards and thanks again Albano --- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, gang I'm a big fan of Kodak Supra 100. It's in fact my favorite film. The problem is it's now discontinued, and it's replaced by Supra 200. Somebody has experience with the new film? How it compares to thr previous 100 film? Is it really 200 iso? Hi Albano, I'm too a big fan of the Supra 100, and recently started to use the 200. I had in mind a side by side test, but after the first roll I thought it was unnecessary. The Supra 200 is the clear winner for me, mainly because it still has all the advantages of the 100 in terms of grain and colour rendition, but it seems sharper (to my eye, at least) and the lab I bring all my negatives to seems to do a better job with the 200 (to be honest, I always read what filters they are using when they print and, under the same conditions - standard filtrature -, the 200 is a bit more... natural - it's a sort of a Reala with 200 speed). I think it is really a 200 speed film (the 100 always seemed to me a 125, but I guess I'm too anal about it). There are times when I still prefer to use a 100 film (usually the Reala, now) but it's a big advantage to have a bit more speed. It allows me to avoid buying too much Supra 400 (I like this one a lot, too, but when I really need more speed the 800 is often a better choice). Hope this helps Gianfranco = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
RE: Horizon Panoramic camera
I know now that the Horizon is no Leica for build quality but I will get one new with a 3 year warranty. Also A Field camera will be to expensive and to rare to be found over here. So thanks for the comments. Don't forget that Ukranian and Russian camera's are a lot cheaper over here then in the USA. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 20 maart 2003 21:01 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Horizon Panoramic camera you don't get the same field of view except with a horrendously expensive lens. Herb - Original Message - From: Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 13:47 Subject: Re: Horizon Panoramic camera I checked what the new price is here in North America and it seems like a lot of money for not much camera. Why not just get a roll film back for a view camera? Doesn't seem like it would cost too much more. 6x12 would be the same sort of thing but I'm betting in the long run more enjoyable.
Re: Cross process
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:23:43 Jim Apilado wrote: The April edition of Photographic has an article about cross processing. Jim A. Thanks. I had a chance to read it. Didn't have anything about E6 and C-41 BW though. The results were really interesting...very muddy dense and GREEN. Not exactly what I expected. --- David Spaulding Photographer _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
RE: Toronto PDML people...
Thants why you need to stand behind me when i'm doing my street photosLOL vbg etc Seriously,definetley interested.April 12-13 is the start of my paying horse gigs so that weekend is iffy.The rest,so far, seem good. Dave Brooks(look bhind Brendan to locate me) Little guy? at least I'm taller than Dave ( actually both Daves lol ) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, There's always interest. Let us know the date/time and such and hopefully we can get the usual suspects out for one (Dave Brooks, Jeff, Frank, Myself.. and maybe even that little Brendan guy...) Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:36:05 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Toronto PDML people... Thinking of making a trip to Toronto some time in early April. IT's likely to be a Thursday/Friday outing but the past Toronto PDML gatherings have sounded like fun so I thought I'd see if there's any interest in having another one. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
OT - I'm a happy bunny
:-) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3406763424category=37 49 to replace my Espon Stylus Photo EX.. Cheapest I've seen new here is 389GBP, but of course it is now superseded by the i9500 or whatever it's called. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: *ist
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:17:05 Michael Cross wrote: David, I assume you are talking about Idaho Camera. It's the only place I've ever seen an MZ-S. Michael Cross That's the one. The store just received some Optio S cameras. Nine at the store I work in...I'll have a few photos later. --- David Spaulding Photographer _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: OT - I'm a happy bunny
I wonder what does Frank think about you being a bunny... ;-) Anyway - great price. Congrats? Regards, Lukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
RE: Let's Do It!!
We could all hop on a plane after GFM 2004. I'm sure Paris, Las Vegas is lovely in the spring! tv It would take a bit of organising - like we'd need a block booking on rooms, and an appropriate bar ;-) That would be fine for me. Cot Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
RE: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
It's not the central location I was hoping for (i.e. Toronto *smirk*) but it seems that for one reason or another most folks wanna do Vegas. I would suggest an early 2004 meeting as it would appear that the current state of world affairs may have things a bit chilly at least till the end of the year (gas prices/travel bans etc. etc. etc.) Mind you.. I'm only suggesting it.. if you guys want to go ahead for this year.. more power to ya !! :-) Let's see... Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon, day trips to Arizona? Cheers, Dave
RE: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
I'v been to vegas twice.I did not like it.Not enough snowVBG Dave(who actually came back with money)Brooks *laugh* I'm now imagining that we're going on one long road trip to see Otis Day and The Knights.. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ? Thanks, Dave. We'll see how the timing works out. You bring the beer, and I'll bring the beer. Oh, and somebody should probably bring beer, too. :) chris On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, David Chang-Sang wrote: Why do I sense a Melvin and Howard thing going on here ;-) I'm willing to pick up Chris.. but I draw the line when Pat White asks me for a pick up in Victoria BC !! Smirkingly, Dave -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ? If you guys can swing past Winnipeg, I might be up for the trip, too. I've never been to Vegas, and this sounds as good a chance as any. Might be a bit cramped in the Civic, but maybe we could rent/borrow a bigger car/van and make a road trip out of it. chris On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, frank theriault wrote: Hey, Dave, I'll split the gas if ya wanna drive! Seriously. I've never been to Vegas. You're right, not as close as I'd like, but hell, it would be a long drive to Poland! vbg H. Vegas, Hoover Dam: anyone ever seen Lost in America by Albert Brooks?
Re: Digital, Smidgital: I'm a new member of the 6x7 club!
Since I never fall into anything halfway: I got a 75/4.5 SMC tak 6 x 7 and a 150/2.8 SMC tak 6 x 7 and I have a 105 whatever super tak on the way. I bought a TTL viewfinder from KEH, and acquired a helicoid extension tube and the 67 and 49 mm reverse adapters. I want to do some macros of my orchids with this new system. I hope to acquire a 135mm macro and a 55 mm lens as soon as I can hide it on the books from the war department. I was curious how to determine the age of the camera. It's obviously an early model, no MLU. Is there a way to determine its mintage via the serial number? Sid From: Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:01:33 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital, Smidgital: I'm a new member of the 6x7 club! Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:58:35 -0500 Welcome to the Brotherhood, Sid! What year and model is your 6x7? Do you have any lenses for it yet? Happy shooting/get out there and burn some film! Pat White
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
I'll bring beer too! vbg Geez, this is shaping up into a major road trip, eh? I've never been west of Goderich Ont, in Canada, and never been west of Chicago at all. Winterpeg, eh? Yowzah! I say we go to Vancouver and pick up Pat. We can strap his wheelchair to the roof. vbg -frank Chris Brogden wrote: Thanks, Dave. We'll see how the timing works out. You bring the beer, and I'll bring the beer. Oh, and somebody should probably bring beer, too. :) -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'v been to vegas twice.I did not like it.Not enough snowVBG Yes, it s***s big time, come on folks, please suggest some place where we can get by snowmobile. cheers, caveman
Re: Digital, Smidgital: I'm a new member of the 6x7 club!
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Sid Barras wrote: I bought a TTL viewfinder from KEH, and acquired a helicoid extension tube If you don't mind my asking, where did you find the tube and how much did it cost? I'm looking to get one of those myself. chris
enabled again... an electro spotmatic with unique accessory
Hi Gang, on my way to acquiring every single model ever made by Asahi Co., I recently took a chance on an early ES, the one that spells out electro spotmatic. The seller advertised it as non-working, but in mint condition. I paid less than $120 US, simply for the cosmetic condtion, with ideas ruminating in my head about transferring the top plate and bottom plate to a working model. Well, the camera arrived and as soon as I put the battery in, that meter leaped up and performed like a circus animal. Seems quite accurate compared to my other ES, to. So: mint condition, working, rather uncommon beast; a fine addition to the Barras pentax family. Now, the curious accessory: the Asahi pentax everready case: also in mint condition, but brown. I've always seen black ones. Anyone else seen one in brown leather? Sid
Re: Digital, Smidgital: I'm a new member of the 6x7 club!
Sounds like you got a nice deal there Sid. I hope to be able to set aside enough money this year to enter the big is better club. :)(God i hope the Y-M did not hear me) Just not sure yet what it will be.I fondled Aarons 6x7 and it felt nice.May keep an eye out for one too. Dave Since I never fall into anything halfway: I got a 75/4.5 SMC tak 6 x 7 and a 150/2.8 SMC tak 6 x 7 and I have a 105 whatever super tak on the way. I bought a TTL viewfinder from KEH, and acquired a helicoid extension tube and the 67 and 49 mm reverse adapters. I want to do some macros of my orchids with this new system. I hope to acquire a 135mm macro and a 55 mm lens as soon as I can hide it on the books from the war department. I was curious how to determine the age of the camera. It's obviously an early model, no MLU. Is there a way to determine its mintage via the serial number? Sid
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
One thing about work related travel Frank.I have covered the whole country on the companies tab:) Lots of interesting spots to see.My favorite is the Queen Charlotte Islands in BC.Absolutley breath taking scenary.Almost quit and stayed out there once. Humm Pat on the roof.Should this be Nationl Lampoons Topdml vacationG Dave I'll bring beer too! vbg Geez, this is shaping up into a major road trip, eh? I've never been west of Goderich Ont, in Canada, and never been west of Chicago at all. Winterpeg, eh? Yowzah! I say we go to Vancouver and pick up Pat. We can strap his wheelchair to the roof. vbg -frank Chris Brogden wrote: Thanks, Dave. We'll see how the timing works out. You bring the beer, and I'll bring the beer. Oh, and somebody should probably bring beer, too. :) -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
Re: Sunagor lens
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:42:51 +, you wrote: I am holding a Sunagor Super Wide Semi Fish-Eye 0.42x made in Japan lens in my hand. It has no focus control or aperture. On the back it has 54mm thread, and a step down ring to 52mm. If I understand this correct, you can mount it on a lens like a filter, and it will give you a wide angle lens. Doe anyone know how good this is? What would the value be? The lens is in very good condition. It's worth twenty bucks or so, as a novelty lens. Expect unsharp photos, with serious color fringing, and vignetting, and extremely soft anywhere but in the center, where it is simply soft. But it's fun, if you can find a good lens to match it to, and suitable subject matter. Many of these lenses come apart in the middle (it's a feature not a defect). The bottom half then is a Macro lens, or rather a diopter filter, which is not too shabby, in the absence of anything better for closeups. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Digital, Smidgital: I'm a new member of the 6x7 club!
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fondled Aarons 6x7 and it felt nice.May keep an eye out for one too. I'm still selling my 6x7 MLU with metered finder, waist-level finder, and 90/2.8 Leaf Shutter lens, probably for around $1000 CAN ($675 US). I still have to take photos of it, though. chris
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
Hmmm... we need a trunk so we can hide a body in it. chris On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing about work related travel Frank.I have covered the whole country on the companies tab:) Lots of interesting spots to see.My favorite is the Queen Charlotte Islands in BC.Absolutley breath taking scenary.Almost quit and stayed out there once. Humm Pat on the roof.Should this be Nationl Lampoons Topdml vacationG Dave I'll bring beer too! vbg Geez, this is shaping up into a major road trip, eh? I've never been west of Goderich Ont, in Canada, and never been west of Chicago at all. Winterpeg, eh? Yowzah! I say we go to Vancouver and pick up Pat. We can strap his wheelchair to the roof. vbg -frank Chris Brogden wrote: Thanks, Dave. We'll see how the timing works out. You bring the beer, and I'll bring the beer. Oh, and somebody should probably bring beer, too. :) -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
OT:IR at home.What went wrong
Hi all. A quiry for the IR crowd out there. I had a roll of Kodak IR in the SP500 since Septmber(i know too long)and i shot the last few frames this past weekend.I had a big problem when i went to pull it out of the can.I did not realize how tough a film base it was and could not rip a good start line,so i put it in the tank(with lid)and went for the cutting tools.I had great difficulty in loading the reel.It would roll smooth until the last 6 or so and get VERY tight.I finally loaded it with a bit of tightness and did the proccessing. I used Ilford Ilfotec dd x (mixed in mid Feb) and Ilford fixer(mixed last week).There is no times for this developer but Aaron found one in his book of 7 min.When i pulled the film out of the wash,crap, all but 3-4 were ruined.Most were very black or nothing at all.The few thet developed were not of the same caliber of the other 7 done in various labs. Did i fog this film when i put in back in the tank and opened the door for cutting tools.Or did it sit in the camera too long, or the wrong chemicals. Oh and the last few frames must have had film touching as there was a curved line and sproket holes visible. Any clues to were i went wrong.I plan on shooting double what i did in 2002 and want to home develope this stuff.Any reel loading tricks. Dave Brooks
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
Theres one at work se are trying to 'dispose' of . Dave:) Hmmm... we need a trunk so we can hide a body in it. chris On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing about work related travel Frank.I have covered the whole country on the companies tab:) Lots of interesting spots to see.My favorite is the Queen Charlotte Islands in BC.Absolutley breath taking scenary.Almost quit and stayed out there once. Humm Pat on the roof.Should this be Nationl Lampoons Topdml vacationG Dave I'll bring beer too! vbg Geez, this is shaping up into a major road trip, eh? I've never been west of Goderich Ont, in Canada, and never been west of Chicago at all. Winterpeg, eh? Yowzah! I say we go to Vancouver and pick up Pat. We can strap his wheelchair to the roof. vbg -frank Chris Brogden wrote: Thanks, Dave. We'll see how the timing works out. You bring the beer, and I'll bring the beer. Oh, and somebody should probably bring beer, too. :) -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
RE: IR at home.What went wrong
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not realize how tough a film base it was and could not rip a good start line,so i put it in the tank(with lid)and went for the cutting tools. What do you mean, rip a good start line? I had great difficulty in loading the reel.It would roll smooth until the last 6 or so and get VERY tight. I assume this means you're using plastic reels. I finally loaded it with a bit of tightness and did the proccessing. I used Ilford Ilfotec dd x (mixed in mid Feb) and Ilford fixer(mixed last week).There is no times for this developer but Aaron found one in his book of 7 min.When i pulled the film out of the wash,crap, all but 3-4 were ruined.Most were very black or nothing at all.The few thet developed were not of the same caliber of the other 7 done in various labs. Did i fog this film when i put in back in the tank and opened the door for cutting tools.Or did it sit in the camera too long, or the wrong chemicals. So you had some frames that were totally black, and some frames that were clear, and some that were ok? How do the numbers look? Oh and the last few frames must have had film touching as there was a curved line and sproket holes visible. Yep. Any clues to were i went wrong.I plan on shooting double what i did in 2002 and want to home develope this stuff.Any reel loading tricks. This stuff loads much easier on steel reels. tv
Re: IR at home.What went wrong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any clues to were i went wrong.I plan on shooting double what i did in 2002 and want to home develope this stuff.Any reel loading tricks. Hi Dave, First, I guess it stood in the camera for too long (but I should have a look at the negative to have a better guess). Second, I don't know how do you usually cut the film before loading, but my experience tought me that the cuts have to be slanted (you have to cut the film in the shape of an arrow, or a wedge - trying to not cut the holes). Use always the scissors. Ciao, Gianfranco = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: enabled again... an electro spotmatic with unique accessory
i have a Pentax brochure that shows them mostly in brown and only a few in black. Herb. - Original Message - From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 21:08 Subject: enabled again... an electro spotmatic with unique accessory Now, the curious accessory: the Asahi pentax everready case: also in mint condition, but brown. I've always seen black ones. Anyone else seen one in brown leather?
