Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I would take out the bin by pasting selected bits from other parts of the
grass and the concrete edge. I think the balance of this picture is good,
cropping would spoil that.

Don
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- Original Message -
From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: To crop or not to crop :)?


> Definitely lose the bin!
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> - Original Message -
> From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:22 AM
> Subject: To crop or not to crop :)?
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I hope I don't come across as an imposing PDMLer, but I have one more
> > shot for you .
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/photos/tele-zoom/modern-knight.htm
> >
> > What do you think about the trash bin?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > ---
> > Boris Liberman
> > www.geocities.com/dunno57
> >
> >
>




Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread Pentxuser

The Trash bin has got to go. By cropping the photo you can get the subjects 
away from the centre of the image and improve composition even more...
Vic 
In a message dated 8/1/03 1:28:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/photos/tele-zoom/modern-knight.htm



Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-01 Thread Kathleen
Thanks for answering my question.  I am going out to a local horticultural
garden tomorrow morning at 7:30 a.m., and I'm going to do flower macros and
am going to use them and see what happens.

Kathy

- Original Message -
From: "Pat White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension
tube question.


> Kathy, if your lens is set to 'A' while it's on an extension tube, the
> diaphragm will be at its minimum aperture, probably f22.  If you take it
off
> 'A', when you press the shutter button, it will stop down to the aperture
> you set .  Until you press the shutter, it will remain wide open, for
easier
> viewing and focusing, just as it would when mounted directly on the body.
> This is the Auto feature.
>
> To sum up, yes, the lens will use the aperture you set.  The metering will
> be centre-weighted.  I'm not sure whether spot-metering is available, but
> evaluative (multi-zone) is not.  Now go take some pictures!
>
> Pat White
>
>
>




Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread frank theriault
Actually, Sridhar,

I think you misunderstood me - probably because as usual I wasn't expressing
myself well .

All I meant was that the current print should be cropped square.  That would
centre the people (I know, the subjects shouldn't be dead centre, but I think it
works here), and the dark bricks (I can't tell what colour they are, as my
monitor's almost dead, and only shows black and white) would be tilted - as they
already are.  But, the bricks wouldn't be centred - which is why I think that
the people would work centred.

Of course, I could be completely wrong here.  Just an opinion (since Boris asked
us for our opinions).  

cheers,
frank

arathi-sridhar wrote:

> I agree with Frank - tilt/rotate camera ~20 degrees clockwise for the next
> one
> to lose the can and grassy area. And maybe get the persons more higher up in
> the field... ?
> better would be a crop, and get the persons closer to the right upper
> corner.
> (perhaps...?)
> - sridhar
>

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Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread arathi-sridhar
I agree with Frank - tilt/rotate camera ~20 degrees clockwise for the next
one
to lose the can and grassy area. And maybe get the persons more higher up in
the field... ?
better would be a crop, and get the persons closer to the right upper
corner.
(perhaps...?)
- sridhar

- Original Message -
From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:52 AM
Subject: To crop or not to crop :)?


> Hi!
>
> I hope I don't come across as an imposing PDMLer, but I have one more
> shot for you .
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/photos/tele-zoom/modern-knight.htm
>
> What do you think about the trash bin?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ---
> Boris Liberman
> www.geocities.com/dunno57




Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread frank theriault
Well, just out of curiosity, I cropped Boris' photo square, and that gets rid of
all the lawn, as well as the trash bin.  Just so you know.

I'd post it on photo.net, but I don't think it would be appropriate to post
someone else's photo in my portfolio...

ciao,
frank

frank theriault wrote:

> Hi, Boris,
>
> I don't know about losing all of the lawn, but I say crop out the can.
>
> Not that I want to raise this debate again, but this might be one of those
> prints that works better square than rectangle.  Since the dark bricks of the
> plaza are in a square pattern, it might look really cool to have them tilted
> (as they are currently) in a square frame.  You could get rid of the can, and
> get the square all at the same time.
>
> But, whatever you do, ditch the can (imho).
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> William Robb wrote:
>
> > Lose it. actually, the entire left top corner weakens the image. Lose the
> > trash can and the corner of the lawn.
> >
> > William Robb
>
> --
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
> fears it is true." -J. Robert
> Oppenheimer

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Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Boris,

I don't know about losing all of the lawn, but I say crop out the can.

Not that I want to raise this debate again, but this might be one of those
prints that works better square than rectangle.  Since the dark bricks of the
plaza are in a square pattern, it might look really cool to have them tilted
(as they are currently) in a square frame.  You could get rid of the can, and
get the square all at the same time.

But, whatever you do, ditch the can (imho).

cheers,
frank

William Robb wrote:

> Lose it. actually, the entire left top corner weakens the image. Lose the
> trash can and the corner of the lawn.
>
> William Robb

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fears it is true." -J. Robert
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Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tubequestion.

2003-08-01 Thread Pat White
Kathy, if your lens is set to 'A' while it's on an extension tube, the
diaphragm will be at its minimum aperture, probably f22.  If you take it off
'A', when you press the shutter button, it will stop down to the aperture
you set .  Until you press the shutter, it will remain wide open, for easier
viewing and focusing, just as it would when mounted directly on the body.
This is the Auto feature.

To sum up, yes, the lens will use the aperture you set.  The metering will
be centre-weighted.  I'm not sure whether spot-metering is available, but
evaluative (multi-zone) is not.  Now go take some pictures!

Pat White




Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Butch Black
Alan,

That is true, but I don't think they made the expensive set  for
Pentax mount.  Can you confirm this?

B&H list them as in stock $145. Digitalphotoclub lists them at $137 but I
have no experience dealing with them.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hess (Demian)




Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman"
Subject: To crop or not to crop :)?


> Hi!
>
> I hope I don't come across as an imposing PDMLer, but I have one more
> shot for you .
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/photos/tele-zoom/modern-knight.htm
>
> What do you think about the trash bin?

Lose it. actually, the entire left top corner weakens the image. Lose the
trash can and the corner of the lawn.

William Robb



Re: Postcards from Colmars

2003-08-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Walkden" 
Subject: Re: Postcards from Colmars


> Hi,
> 
> Friday, August 1, 2003, 11:50:01 PM, I wrote:
> 
> > I spent last week in the beautifuk
> 
> er, that was an unfortunate slip of the fingers, for which I
> apologise!

At least you didn't spell it correctly..

William Robb



Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Chan
That is true, but I don't think they made the expensive set  for
Pentax mount.  Can you confirm this?
You are right. The Pro 300 TCs aren't available in Pentax mount, except the 
3X.

http://www.tokina.co.jp/kenko/index.html

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Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-01 Thread Kathleen
I appreciate everyone's reply to my question.  My extension tubes don't have
any electrical contacts.  They must be pretty old.  KEH charged me $144 for
them, and now I'm thinking maybe I didn't get such a good deal.  They are in
great condition, though. I don't care at all about manual focusing.  What I
care about is that the camera (using its spot meter or center-weighted
meter) gets the right exposure.  I see the shutter speed in the viewfinder.
Do you think that the aperture is the setting that I have it on (I rarely
use the "A" setting).  I use the PZ-1p hypermanual mode and set my aperture
right on the lens.  I guess I am just not sure if the camera is using the
F-stop that I have set on the lens I'm using.  Are you saying that it is
using that setting?  I really appreciate your help.
Thanks.
Kathy
- Original Message -
From: "Pat White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:39 PM
Subject: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube
question.


> Kathleen, do you know what year your extension tube set B was made?  It
> probably communicates all the features that were transmitted at that time.
> Older cameras, like the MX for instance, read out the aperture in the
finder
> by means of a little window on the pentaprism, which looks down at the
> aperture ring.  Naturally, that doesn't work when using an extension tube
or
> teleconverter.  Later cameras and lenses have electrical contacts to
> communicate with each other, but that didn't begin until 1983, with the KA
> series lenses.
>
> Take a close look at the extension tubes.  They'll have a mechanical
linkage
> to stop down the lens (that's the Auto part), but probably no electrical
> contacts, which would be needed to transmit the f-stop info, nor a drive
> mechanism for autofocus.  At present, I don't believe Pentax makes
extension
> tubes which permit autofocus.  Kenko makes a tube (not a set) which does
> allow AF.
>
> However, the lack of  AF and aperture readout shouldn't stop you from
> happily using your extension tubes.  I have an extension tube set K,
> probably dating from the early '70s, that works fine with my MZ-S.  It has
> no linkages whatever, and is really just a set of tubes.  Having to stop
the
> lens down manually is an extra step, but for occasional use, I don't mind.
>
> I agree that the folks at Pentax (if it was a technician you spoke to)
> should have been able to tell you this, but a junior technician might have
> been in diapers when your tube set was made, and not familiar with it at
> all.  Hope this is helpful.
>
> Pat White
>
>
>




Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Kathleen
The number on the1.4x teleconverter is Pz-AF MC4.  I use it with the Tamron
70-300 lens (the one with the macro switch on it).  The 2x one is marked MC
2x Pz/AF.  They both work with autofocus, but there really has to be enough
light in the scene or AF keeps searching.

Kathy L.
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Teleconverters


> What Tamron lenses do you use them with?  I plan to use the converter with
> FA 200mm and a Tamron 300 f2.8.
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
>
> >From: "Kathleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Teleconverters
> >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:38:31 -0400
> >
> >I have a Tamron 1.4 and 2x teleconverter for Pentax.  I them with other
> >Tamron lenses for Pentax when I got the lenses from B&H.
> >Kathy L.
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Paul Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:49 PM
> >Subject: Teleconverters
> >
> >
> > > Has Tamron ever made their SP teleconverters in AF for Pentax?  There
is
> >a
> > > reference in Boz's KMP that the Tamron SP converter is a good match, I
> > > always assumed he meant a AF converter but I can't find any info
> >anywhere
> >on
> > > the net that it exists.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Paul
> > >
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Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread John Coyle
Definitely lose the bin!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:22 AM
Subject: To crop or not to crop :)?


> Hi!
> 
> I hope I don't come across as an imposing PDMLer, but I have one more
> shot for you .
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/photos/tele-zoom/modern-knight.htm
> 
> What do you think about the trash bin?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ---
> Boris Liberman
> www.geocities.com/dunno57
> 
> 



Wanted to Buy: Screwmount Stuff

2003-08-01 Thread David Weiss
Anyone have an extra super takumar 105 or 24 or H1A for sale,
let me know. 

Dave



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Re: Postcards from Colmars

2003-08-01 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Friday, August 1, 2003, 11:50:01 PM, I wrote:

> I spent last week in the beautifuk

er, that was an unfortunate slip of the fingers, for which I
apologise!

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Postcards from Colmars

2003-08-01 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

I spent last week in the beautifuk medieval village of Colmars, Alpes de
Haute Provence, France. Here are some of the very postcardy photographs I
took:

www.web-options.com/colmars

I haven't cleaned them up at all, so some of the scratches that the
lab managed to inflict still show. I'm annoyed with the lab, who are
normally quite good. I knocked up the web page with Photoshop, as you
will recognise. Nothing slick, and it didn't pick up my captions for
some reason, so apologies for that.

There are no people photos, which is unusual for me. This is because I
went with a friend and her young daughters - I haven't asked their
permission yet to show the photographs to all and sundry, and they
haven't seen them either.

Cheers,

Bob



Letter From Scotland - (Final) Day 7

2003-08-01 Thread Cotty
Another long day, such as it is when seeing the sights and travelling
here end there, so I'll keep this short.

Up at a leisurely pace (compared to yesterday) and off we went for a 30
minute drive to the funicular railway (cable car to you and me) that
trundles up and down the final couple of miles to the (near) summit of
Cairngorm, one of the premier skiing peaks of Scotland, and indeed the
British Isles. Except that it's high summer and so there wasn't a skier
to be seen.

At the top, there is a cafeteria and viewing platform buffeted by
considerable winds and so out we went for a breath of fresh air. In fact
the air was so fresh it blew Jostein's baseball cap right off his own
mighty peak, and away it went on an apparent journey into oblivion.

Luck was on Jostein's side, and the cap came to rest only thirty feet
below. The descent was easy, and Jostein loped off to retrieve his
headgear. Later over a cup of tea, his face was longer than the backside
of a Highland Cow and it transpired that he had lost the eyepiece of his
beloved 645nII. He had looked every where on the surrounding viewing
platform but to no avail. Undeterred, my son Stefan launched himself off
in search of the pesky Pentax accessory, Jostein scowling into his mug of
char. Well slap my ass and call me Sally, within three minutes Stef was
back through the door to the cafe, face lit up in glee. Yes, indeed he
thinks he has found it, 'come and see' - Jostein bounding out through the
door like Baloo the Bear in hot pursuit.

Sure enough, the nutty Norwegian returned triumphant, holding up his
prize for all in the cafe to see: a small round reticule of glass and
metal, and a wearing a grin that the Cheshire Cat would have been proud
of. It had rolled off the viewing platform and lodged between a pair of
small boulders - Stef had done very well to spot it - definitely man of
the match there.

Back down to the shack, er chalet for a late lunch, after which the girls
went shopping for food, bless em, and Jostein and I took a shedload of
kids out for a few hours. We ended up at three venues: a large lake with
a sandy beach and plenty of photogenic mountains behind, a large dead
tree (almost petrified in texture and colour), and a smaller loch with a
sedate and peaceful shoreline. Kids romped and we chomped at the
opportunity to do some decent shots, and we weren't disappointed. Watch
this space.

Right, time for the conclusion to this small series of diatribes. It's
been such a smashing time, we have all really enjoyed it very much - all
the more pleasurable by spending the holidays with people we have met on
the internet, namely the PDML. Jostein is a real trouper, a real rock.
He's such a knowledgeable guy and his photography is absolutely first
rate. So, a big thanks to Jostein and Vera for making the effort to
travel across the North Sea and visit these shores. They are stopping in
on Mike and Cath Wilson near Newcastle before boarding a ferry for Norway
at the start of the coming week. Have a pleasant voyage and we will see
you again, hopefully soon.

As for myself, it's been a hectic time - sightseeing always is. Family
holidays are a compromise and you move at the pace of the slowest child
in the party. With that in mind, it's no problem for me. I adjust
accordingly, and it is a pleasurable experience. I have some nice shots
in the bag, and I've now got a lot of work to do over the coming weeks -
very exciting as I enjoy the editing, optimising and printing as much as
the actual photographing. If I am truthful, I would say that I am looking
forward (in a very different way) to GFM next year - that's a whole
different ballgame and one that I would not want to miss in my lifetime.

For now, I relish the recent experiences, the friends I have met up with
(Jostein, Mike W, Gianfranco) and will savour those memories for a long
time to come. Especially when I'll be staring at hundreds of pictures
from the trip ;-)

Time to raise a glass of Orvietto Classico to the PDML - here's to you -
you are the list. Speaking of which, have I had a few drinks tonight?
Hey, does a Norwegian Moose crap in the woods?



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Paul Eriksson
What Tamron lenses do you use them with?  I plan to use the converter with 
FA 200mm and a Tamron 300 f2.8.

Thanks
Paul

From: "Kathleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Teleconverters
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:38:31 -0400
I have a Tamron 1.4 and 2x teleconverter for Pentax.  I them with other
Tamron lenses for Pentax when I got the lenses from B&H.
Kathy L.
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:49 PM
Subject: Teleconverters
> Has Tamron ever made their SP teleconverters in AF for Pentax?  There is 
a
> reference in Boz's KMP that the Tamron SP converter is a good match, I
> always assumed he meant a AF converter but I can't find any info 
anywhere
on
> the net that it exists.
>
> thanks
> Paul
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Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Alan,

That is true, but I don't think they made the expensive set  for
Pentax mount.  Can you confirm this?

Thanks,


Bruce



Friday, August 1, 2003, 2:59:11 PM, you wrote:

AC> AFAIK, Tamron have made 2 sets of AF TCs. The expenseive set is identical to 
AC> the Kenko Pro 300 series.

AC> regards,
AC> Alan Chan

>>I have a Tamron 1.4 and 2x teleconverter for Pentax.  I them with other
>>Tamron lenses for Pentax when I got the lenses from B&H.

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Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Chan
AFAIK, Tamron have made 2 sets of AF TCs. The expenseive set is identical to 
the Kenko Pro 300 series.

regards,
Alan Chan
I have a Tamron 1.4 and 2x teleconverter for Pentax.  I them with other
Tamron lenses for Pentax when I got the lenses from B&H.
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Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Chan
You're right Mark.  It would only provide multizone metering, not usefull 
with macro.  Sorry for the confusion.
On the contrary, if you mount a digital flash on AF body, the chosen f-stop 
would be displayed.  :-)

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Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Chan
I have this extension tube set too, and it won't allow any f-stop display 
simply because they do not have the neceassily contacts on the mount. So 
they basically turn every lens into K/M lens. For the same reason, you 
cannot use the 'A' button of the aperture ring.

regards,
Alan Chan
I'm really disappointed that the Pentax people couldn't answer a simple =
question about their own (Pentax) extension tubes with their own camera =
(PZ-1p).
I just got Extension Tube Set B (Auto) made by Pentax from KEH.  They
are in great shape, except when I try to use them, the only information
that shows in the viewfinder is the shutter speed.  Where the F-stop
should appear, there is just a blank.  This happens whether I am in
automatic or manual mode.  Also, the autofocus won't work (which I
really don't care about because I focus manually most of the time
anyway).
Can anyone help me on this.  I thought I read somewhere that this
extension tube set would allow me to use all of the Pentax functions of
my camera.  (I am really upset that Pentax technicians couldn't offer me 
any
help on this.
They did say that someone would get back to me on Monday, though.)
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Re: CLA in Vancouver?

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Chan
Alan, the Pentax Canada homepage lists Vancam, at 1666 West 8th Avenue, in
Vancouver (V6J 1V4), as the authorized warranty repair depot in BC.  Their
number is (250) 736-4113.
Thanks everyone. I am off to Vancam now.  :-)

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Re: DC PDML #9

2003-08-01 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Cesar Matamoros II wrote:

-- > Tom, you were missed (as were all the locals and otherwise
-- who couldn't make
I miss Hard Times Cafe. :-(

--jc



Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tubequestion.

2003-08-01 Thread Pat White
Kathleen, do you know what year your extension tube set B was made?  It
probably communicates all the features that were transmitted at that time.
Older cameras, like the MX for instance, read out the aperture in the finder
by means of a little window on the pentaprism, which looks down at the
aperture ring.  Naturally, that doesn't work when using an extension tube or
teleconverter.  Later cameras and lenses have electrical contacts to
communicate with each other, but that didn't begin until 1983, with the KA
series lenses.

Take a close look at the extension tubes.  They'll have a mechanical linkage
to stop down the lens (that's the Auto part), but probably no electrical
contacts, which would be needed to transmit the f-stop info, nor a drive
mechanism for autofocus.  At present, I don't believe Pentax makes extension
tubes which permit autofocus.  Kenko makes a tube (not a set) which does
allow AF.

However, the lack of  AF and aperture readout shouldn't stop you from
happily using your extension tubes.  I have an extension tube set K,
probably dating from the early '70s, that works fine with my MZ-S.  It has
no linkages whatever, and is really just a set of tubes.  Having to stop the
lens down manually is an extra step, but for occasional use, I don't mind.

I agree that the folks at Pentax (if it was a technician you spoke to)
should have been able to tell you this, but a junior technician might have
been in diapers when your tube set was made, and not familiar with it at
all.  Hope this is helpful.

Pat White




Re: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread Mark Cassino
Don't crop it out - clone it out...  I like how you framed up the 
concentric squares, cropping the bin will hurt that part of the composition.

And while you are at it, clone out that patch of bare earth behind the bin 
as well...

Just my 2 cents!

- MCC

At 09:22 PM 8/1/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hi!

I hope I don't come across as an imposing PDMLer, but I have one more
shot for you .
http://www.geocities.com/dunno57/photos/tele-zoom/modern-knight.htm

What do you think about the trash bin?

Thanks!

---
Boris Liberman
www.geocities.com/dunno57
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Kalamazoo, MI
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RE: To crop or not to crop :)?

2003-08-01 Thread Butch Black
Hi Boris,

The trash bin and the grassy area do nothing for me. I would either crop, or
if you have Photoshop or another image editing program with a clone brush,
clone another section of brick. Start sampling with the darker bricks and
starting the cloning just before the edging.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hess (Demian)




Re: Teleconverters

2003-08-01 Thread Jostein
Paul,
I have a Tamron AF teleconverter for Pentax, but I don't remember the 
letters on it. It's resting back home in Norway right now, so I have 
no means of checking for another couple of days...

I have been quite happy with it's optical quality so far. I remember 
it is a 7 element construction. Bought it off eBay, btw.

cheers,
Jostein

On 1 Aug 2003 at 11:49, Paul Eriksson wrote:

> Has Tamron ever made their SP teleconverters in AF for Pentax?  There is a 
> reference in Boz's KMP that the Tamron SP converter is a good match, I 
> always assumed he meant a AF converter but I can't find any info anywhere on 
> the net that it exists.
> 
> thanks
> Paul
> 
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Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 5

2003-08-01 Thread U+B Scheffler

> My S.O. of nearly 17 years, Alma, and I were
> married at Inverness Registry Office at high noon

My best wishes for you! I hope she didn't force you. ;-)

Bernd




MS-S, Shift lens, other stuff for Sale

2003-08-01 Thread Lindamood, Mark
I keep listing this stuff here, can't seem to get around to scanning photos for eBay, 
but will soon.  Anyway, FOR SALE:  MZ-S, MZ-S timer release cable, Pentax 28mm shift, 
28-105 powerzoom, 24mmSMC K, 20mm SMC FA, SMC-F 50mm F1.7, SMC-FA 135mm, SMC-F 100mm 
macro.  All in fastidious condition.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: My Son...

2003-08-01 Thread Lon Williamson
Anybody anywhere who cannot empathize with Bob should
come to my house.  I'll break your kneecaps and piss on
your Nike shoes.  No shit.
-Lon

Gary L. Murphy wrote:
Bob Blakely wrote:

Damn. Another PDML fucker.

Bob,

Just consider the source. People like that do not have the guts to fight 
for something they believe in because they are so narrow minded they 
would fall for anything.






Re: AF280T Flash clip ons

2003-08-01 Thread Lon Williamson
John, I don't know if these are still available new.
I bought mine on Ebay.  Boz's K Mount site will tell
you which ones to get.
-Lon

fatbratcat wrote:



Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:28:04 -0400
From: Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: flash for Super Program

button, and an angled down macro setting, and can accept
wide-angle (24mm) and telephoto (90mm) clip-ons from Pentax.

Where can the clip ons be bought?  Esp the 90 mm.  I've had the
flash (bought used) for years but my online internet searches fail
to find the flash lens clip ons.
TIA,

John Bailey







Re: Letter From Scotland - Day 6

2003-08-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>A hectic day, but an interesting one. A letter delivered a couple of days
>previously kindly informed us that the electrical supply would be
>interrupted due to 'essential substation maintenance' at around 9 am this
>morning. In fact it was 08.58 am, and my toast had literally just popped
>up :-)

That's more personal information than we needed, really...
;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



135 mm lens question

2003-08-01 Thread Michael Perham
There is an SMC 135mm f2.5 lens on e-bay.  Can anyone offer an opinion on
the optical qualities of this lens ...thanks!

Mike.



Re: Odd request

2003-08-01 Thread U+B Scheffler
OK, I admit that I always try to be optimistic and hopeful.
I think there are lot of things that may perhaps exist but human intellect
is not able to conceive.

Regards
Bernd

--original message
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 08:21:20 -0400
From: Dan Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Odd request
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Great magazine and a great organization;  I am a member and subscriber.
James Randi offers $100,000 to anyone who can scientifically prove faith
healing or other paranormal phenomina.  No one has claimed the prize.

Chris Stoddart wrote:

>
>You might like to subscribe to the Skeptical Enquirer for a year or so :-)
>
>http://www.csicop.org/si/
>




Re: CLA in Vancouver?

2003-08-01 Thread William Robb
Check Pentax Canada's website for equipment they no longer support. Pretty
much anything over a decade old is too old for them to service.
I had trouble getting them to service my A 50mm f/1.2, and it was still a
current lens. Apparently, they didn't want to put an A contact into the
thing. They wanted me to trash it and buy an FA43mm f/1.9 instead.

William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Nelson"

Subject: Re: CLA in Vancouver?


> There's a Pentax Canada service centre near the Burrard St. Bridge.  I
> think that it's on 2nd or 3rd avenue, just east of Burrard.  I'm not
> sure if they'll work on old cameras though.  I had a good experience
> when I brought my F 80-200 4.7-5.6 in for a loose lens element.



Re: Following street photography threads

2003-08-01 Thread "Mike Ignatiev"
Not sure about Lazlo, but I liked the shot a lot. 
The geometry, the balance of the umbrella and
its shadow, the position of the figures, symmetric
wrt to the shadow, but not the umbrella -- it all
works wonderfully, for my taste.

best,
mishka

> Lazlo Moholy Nagy, maybe?
> Regards
> 
> Albano



FS body/lens

2003-08-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Something basic but useful.
Ricoh CR-5 body with 28-70 zoom lens.
All in good user condition.
$60 shipped in US.


mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .





Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-08-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Please don't change the subject lines on these arguments. Constantly
updating killfiles gets to be a real chore.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Odd request

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:02:32 +0100 (BST)
Chris Stoddart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > I read some time ago that there were made emperical tests with
> > groups that were compared. One group of  patients got the prayers
> > of a group of people, the other not. All that for a certain time.
> > And the result was that the recovery was better in the first
> > group.
> 
> Well as someone who did postdoctoral work in a university
> pharmaceutical dept, I can assure you that there are loads of
> pitfalls for the unwary researcher into matters of health and
> 'cures'. Repeatability is a keyword, otherwise it's not a lot of
> use to the human race in general no matter how it works. If it just
> worked for one group on one day - well maybe they just got lucky
> and put most of the naturally quick healers in one group and the
> poor healers in the other?

Not being in medical- or pharmaceutical research, the principles
apply across the board for any kind of scientific  research. Hence,
my original inquery as to what exactly was implied by "scienticically
proven".

> 
> You might like to subscribe to the Skeptical Enquirer for a year or
> so :-)
> 
> http://www.csicop.org/si/
> 
> The only downside is that after having results such as yours
> carefully tested and explained (debunked!) you'll have trouble
> having faith in anything for a while.

Working with science of any sort, not having faith in anything (least
of all ones own results) is a very good attribute to acquire :) Makes
a carefull researcher

--thomas



Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-08-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Please stop it, or go away.

"Mike Ignatiev" wrote:

> Let's stop this now.



Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-08-01 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Mike Ignatiev wrote:

To Gary L. Murphy 
-
 

I don't have tons of believes. OTOH, if you want a piece of me...

Bring it on, asshole!

--
Later,
Gary


Unidentified subject!

2003-08-01 Thread "Mike Ignatiev"
To RFsing:

> The point of view Miska continues to demonstrate is 
> deplorable. If he can't adapt his beliefs and 
> attitudes to this country, perhaps he should return 
> to a government and political system he is more 
> comfortable with.  We won't miss him here...

"We" -- like "We, His Royal Highness"?
Anyway, thanks for letting me know that the freedom
means "the freedom to adapt my beliefs to yours". 

To Boris:
--
> It is also as much inappropriate to insult a
> father whose son just lost two feet in line of duty. 

My response was to posting the article which I find 
inappropriate for this list. I did not send it to the 
list. I was hinting to Bob that this is not the place
to post it. I have sent my sypmathies to him about his
son more than once. 

To Gary L. Murphy 
-
> Just consider the source. 

The Time Magazine

> People like that do not have the guts to fight for 
> something they believe in

I don't have tons of believes. OTOH, if you want a 
piece of me...

To Bob Blakely

> Another PDML fucker.

Thanks for taking my off-line responses to the list
and starting another lively discussion.
Again, I am sorry for your son's loss. I didn't imply
anything about him personaly. But we've been over
this times and again. 

To all:
---
I have joined this list over a year ago hoping to 
discuss things at least remotely related to 
photography. I don't care if people here are americans,
britts, russians, germans, finns, jews, or small furry 
creatures from Alpha Centauri, and if they slaughter 
cats, dolphins and bold eagles. As long as it happens 
off-list. 

Let's stop this now.



Re: Odd request

2003-08-01 Thread Dan Matyola
Great magazine and a great organization;  I am a member and subscriber.
James Randi offers $100,000 to anyone who can scientifically prove faith 
healing or other paranormal phenomina.  No one has claimed the prize.

Chris Stoddart wrote:

You might like to subscribe to the Skeptical Enquirer for a year or so :-)

http://www.csicop.org/si/






Re: Website Update

2003-08-01 Thread Kathleen
Wow, Mark - Your photos are incredible!  One can see these birds at a
distance, but if it weren't for photographers such as yourself who take the
time and have the patience to photograph them, we would never be able to
enjoy their true beauty.
Thanks for sharing.
Kathy L.

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>
>




Re: Letter From Scotland - Day 6

2003-08-01 Thread Cotty
>> After returning back to the shack, er chalet, I started on a bottle of
>> dry French white and soon had the 2 visiting clans tucking into bangers
>> and mash while the Bob Harris (country+western) show blared out some
>> great tracks. [If you're into country and would like to hear the English
>> slant on it - and a bloody good DJ to boot - check out Bob Harris on
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/country/bob_harris/index.shtml - click on
>> 'listen again' to the right - his show is on every Thursday evening at
>> 1900 BST / 1800 GMT.]

>Cotty, is that the same Bob Harris who used to host 'The Old Grey Whistle
>Test' on BBC TV?  Fond memories of staying up late to watch that when I
>lived in England!  He used to be in the vanguard of rock music DJ's (or more
>correctly, VJ's): the only problem was he had a slight whistle himself when
>he used words with sibilants!

Hi John,

Yes indeed! He also has a 2 hour show on every Saturday night (10 or 11
pm if memory serves). Still great to listen to with a famous voice whose
nickname is Whispering Bob.

He lives 15 minutes away from us and I met him when we filmed an
interview an interview with him last year. Great bloke.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Letter from Scotland - Day 3

2003-08-01 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Friday, August 1, 2003, 12:29:52 AM, you wrote:

>> The visitor's center is basically a café and souvenir shop. There is 
>> also a theater showing a 8 minute film on the history of the castle.

> Ah, thanks for satisfying my curiosity. :) There is some nutcase online
> who thinks that the visitor's center is an eyesore, and that Historic
> Scotland wants to build a hamburger restaurant at the site of the
> Glencoe massacre...

it's true! And what could be more appropriate at Glencoe than a
Macdonald's? Perhaps only a Campbell's soup kitchen.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Odd request

2003-08-01 Thread Chris Stoddart

> I read some time ago that there were made emperical tests with groups
> that were compared. One group of  patients got the prayers of a group of
> people, the other not. All that for a certain time. And the result was
> that the recovery was better in the first group.

Well as someone who did postdoctoral work in a university pharmaceutical
dept, I can assure you that there are loads of pitfalls for the unwary
researcher into matters of health and 'cures'. Repeatability is a
keyword, otherwise it's not a lot of use to the human race in general no
matter how it works. If it just worked for one group on one day - well
maybe they just got lucky and put most of the naturally quick healers in
one group and the poor healers in the other?

You might like to subscribe to the Skeptical Enquirer for a year or so :-)

http://www.csicop.org/si/

The only downside is that after having results such as yours carefully
tested and explained (debunked!) you'll have trouble having faith in
anything for a while.

Chris